Judge Score Cards Are Flawed of Biases

**minelevation** · 07-02-2011, 03:47 AM

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this is how all of my fights are as far as counters and everything else

**minelevation** · 07-02-2011, 03:51 AM

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Also they give the advantage in World championship to the fighter with the higher overall my boxer is an 80 he was an 83 i was an undderdog going into this fight

**EarvGotti** · 07-02-2011, 04:07 AM

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LOL dude all you threw was jabs and straights. No wonder you lost. Jabs dont do much damage. Whoever does the most damage wins the fight.

**minelevation** · 07-02-2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by EarvGotti

LOL dude all you threw was jabs and straights. No wonder you lost. Jabs dont do much damage. Whoever does the most damage wins the fight.

Look at his body damage compared to mind are you blind.. Clearly i did the most damage Jabs do a consideral amount of damage over time. Can someone who think they know a little bit about boxing comment thanks

**phillyfan23** · 07-02-2011, 07:36 AM

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I agree with the decision.....

Not only were most of your punches jabs (straights can do damage), you didn't connect on ONE power punch.

The opponent landed significantly less punches than you, but most of his shots were SIGNIFICANT and he landed a good deal of power punches.

However, i do agree that the judging is in fact flawed....

I understand the premise of judging on significant strikes, but the game thinks that a straight is much less significant than hooks and uppercuts. Those punches should count the same as far as points/significance are concerned. Jabs are the only punch that should count less in this regard.

For example.....what happens if you're Lennox fighting Tyson.....

Lewis' strategy should keep the distance and land jabs and straights with occasional hooks and uppercuts. (how he defeated Tyson)

Tyson should try to keep the fight inside and go for hooks and uppercuts

in one round for example, throwing the same amount of punches.....Lewis lands 15 jabs and 10 straights, and Tyson lands 6 jabs, 1 hooks and 7 uppercuts.

If I were judging, I'd give the round to lewis, but this game will give the round to tyson because uppercuts and hooks are valued much more than straights.

jabs fine, their value should be less, but the straights shouldn't be.....this system will put the outside fighters at a disadvantage forcing them to fight INSIDE and lose their natural physical advantages and force them MOST times to use their money punches LESS ( the straight/cross)....think Wlad Klitchsko, think Lennox, think ALI....the jab straight combination he had was a huuuuuge weapon.

**minelevation** · 07-02-2011, 05:24 PM

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Do you guys not see the counter punches, body punches, I out did him in every category except power.. What stats are you guys looking at ?? How is he more effective ?

**EarvGotti** · 07-02-2011, 06:30 PM

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Dude, out of your 800 punches about 300 of them were jabs. He landed a variety of punches which have more power than jabs. He landed more power punches. He did more damage in comparison to the type of punches he threw.

**nickelplaydit** · 07-02-2011, 09:03 PM

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Guys i understand that the judging has changed towards who lands the best punch each round. but to take away the effectiveness of the jab will hurt weaker fighters ...

its already bad enough that every time i play online im fighting a tyson, or a frost, or whatever super juiced heavy hitter... but now with not enough substance behind a jab the adjustment will be a tough one.. its not impossible to win with weaker fighters you just have to be THAT more smarter in the ring...

regardles those who use the buttons as controls will love this patch up until the 6 or 7th rd.

i welcome the new patch . im still not totally sure about it only because it seems the rules keep changing drastically patch after patch. this game is officially FNC.2

**foo55** · 07-02-2011, 11:57 PM

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so your jab is working but you dont follow them up with hooks or uppercuts?

i bet you were fighting off your backfoot the whole fight. im not calling you a runner, but ring generalship is the deciding factor if youre not doing any damage.

**phillyfan23** · 07-03-2011, 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by nickelplaydit

Guys i understand that the judging has changed towards who lands the best punch each round. but to take away the effectiveness of the jab will hurt weaker fighters ...

its already bad enough that every time i play online im fighting a tyson, or a frost, or whatever super juiced heavy hitter... but now with not enough substance behind a jab the adjustment will be a tough one.. its not impossible to win with weaker fighters you just have to be THAT more smarter in the ring...

regardles those who use the buttons as controls will love this patch up until the 6 or 7th rd.

i welcome the new patch . im still not totally sure about it only because it seems the rules keep changing drastically patch after patch. this game is officially FNC.2

the only way a jab should win a fight is if you land them and AVOIDING the opponent's power punches.

look at last night's fight between klitchsko and haye.....the jab for klitchsko was the deciding factor, but he also got hit solid on the chin maybe 6-7 times the whole fight, and he hit haye around the same amount of times with power shots.

If you land 20 jabs a round with one hook and one uppercut and your opponent lands 8 hooks 2 uppercuts 5 jabs....your opponent wins simply because he did more damage. Jabs alone don't guarantee a win and that's the example that the OP showed us.

He might have outboxed his opponent, but he got outdamaged in the process. Floyd mayweather wins with his jabs and straights because he doesn't get hit. Not only does he land....but people can't touch him....people forget this 2nd part. The OP got damaged....

**JayBee74** · 07-03-2011, 02:09 AM

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It's not perfect, but it's a pretty solid scoring system.

I've been using Pavlik a lot pre and post patch and unless it's my imagination, his straight (right cross) is quite a bit less accurate.

**nickelplaydit** · 07-05-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by phillyfan23

the only way a jab should win a fight is if you land them and AVOIDING the opponent's power punches.

look at last night's fight between klitchsko and haye.....the jab for klitchsko was the deciding factor, but he also got hit solid on the chin maybe 6-7 times the whole fight, and he hit haye around the same amount of times with power shots.

If you land 20 jabs a round with one hook and one uppercut and your opponent lands 8 hooks 2 uppercuts 5 jabs....your opponent wins simply because he did more damage. Jabs alone don't guarantee a win and that's the example that the OP showed us.

He might have outboxed his opponent, but he got outdamaged in the process. Floyd mayweather wins with his jabs and straights because he doesn't get hit. Not only does he land....but people can't touch him....people forget this 2nd part. The OP got damaged....

Agreed. but just for arguments sake boxers like Holmes , Liston, Ali, Klitchsko, have very explosive jabs. those guys were real effective with it.

As for me ive been winning more everytime... like i said im adjusting ..and enjoying it.... kudos!

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