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Old 07-02-2011, 09:15 PM   #112
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Re: Fact or Fiction: NCAA Football 12 Outlook

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Originally Posted by khaliib
As I stated things here at OS has changed from how it was several years ago.

Not that there was a sinister motive by these writers in particular, but there seems to be a sinister attitude towards those that have a view that might not be as positive about the game.
(Just read some of the replies)

When the writer starts off by saying "It's people like this..." because the veiw was different, kind of seems like the whole purpose of the write-up was to say those that don't see the game on the same manner, simply are lacking something to have such a view.
(I wouldn't or did not say Stupid)

I wouldn't say that a Gamers can't have an opinion, but I've watched how non-positive notations about EA games have been met with sinister replies that seem to be given more leeway in expression.

In a nutshell, I replied because I wondered if those that agreed with Jayson's write-up (not as positve), if such a person would be given the same leeway to do a Fact or Fiction write-up to counter such gloating perspectives that the writers present?

Would it be Deleted?
Would they be warned or Banned?

I could care less one way or another and take no side, it's a video game.
I've got likes and dislikes, but still will buy and find a way to enjoy it.
At this point, I think we might be talking about different things here. I am not a moderator, nor am I privy to the way folks may or may not be handled on here. But, I can at least say from the writing side of things, that Jayson -- as I said previously -- would have absolutely been on this Fact or Fiction if he was not working on a Backbreaker review because we generally try to get two guys on -- or even three guys in some cases -- so we can really get folks who have passionate differences on topics to make the FoF more interesting than having two people agree more or less. We don't try to manufacture those opinions though, so Dustin and Christian agree more than not hence why it was a bit more one sided on this particular FoF.

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Originally Posted by khaliib
I wouldn't go that far.

There are so many perspectives of what looks/plays right and what's changed, there really isn't a right or wrong dealing with the game.
We're talking Millions of different perspectives.

We wouldn't be having many of these discussions if the game was more customizable.

Options, options, options.

I feel that's why so many agreed with Jayson's write-up, because there are no options or have very limited options that allow them to fix what they feel is wrong about their game.

Example:
No Recruit Editor eventhough every year, gamers run to the Forums looking for Slider/Re-Rated Rosters to help improve an aspect of Gameplay they don't like.

Again, so many perspectives, but limited options for Gamers to adjust to their own perspective, is what's driving much of the around here.
I would agree with that overall sentiment and that it makes sense. However, I think you would hear some people say that they did add some customization this year.

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Originally Posted by TheTodd84
why do you think, Chase, that MLB: The Show, FIFA and NHL are consistently viewed as better games than NCAA? It is the custom entrances? Nope. Is the commentary? A little bit. Is it the presentation? A little bit. But what is it MOSTLY? Wait for it... the GAMEPLAY. So, if that is the case, then why is the dev team at NCAA still focusing on getting Bevo to look right when they should be trying to make oregon play like a damn spread-option team and make the zone read actually usable?
I'm not sure why I'm being targeted specifically for this response...

Nevertheless, I would agree the gameplay is why those games are considered better, but I never made any argument that NCAA was better -- not that I even really compared them anywhere, ever -- than those other franchises.

I'm not really going to go down this path of balancing what's done by art team and gameplay team again because I'm pretty sure I already had that discussion recently when it comes to people making an argument that Bevo etc. should be ignored entirely until every gameplay fix occurs. I don't think it's really an argument that is entirely reasonable or feasible but, again, if someone wants to pitch that argument then cool.
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