Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

[Danimal]

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ONLY WARNING

This is not going to turn into a debate thread on why one mode is better then others.

You want to post and react to the news and state your opinion that is fine. You will not start telling other people they are wrong for theirs.

Hopefully that is understood.

[StL_RamZ]

Smh no wonder why they have released info on online franchise last....and I still cant understand why can't they just use the same franchise as offline...appears I will be passing on madden this year...

[canes21]

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Well, I probably won't be buying Madden until it goes on sale or drops in price. Three years ago we were told that Online Franchise would be pretty generic, but they would be able to add our most wanted features to the mode because they built it on a server. We were told they would be able to add salary caps, trade logic, etc. throughout the real NFL season and it should match the offline franchise quickly. Well, Madden 10 comes out, I buy it and start an online franchise and we get in a season, but it was so bland we didn't want to do a second one until they put in the updates we were promised. So we waited and waited and waited and there was never a single update outside of one roster update(that was still wrong).

Madden 11 roles around and it has no updates either, but there was still hope they could update it throughout the year like they previously said. Nothing happened to it either besides some roster updates. Now Madden 12 is here and we still have no updates. What is the deal?

If EA doesn't want to update it because no one really plays it, that's ridiculous. Who wants to play an online franchise that is pretty much 16 play now games with friends? The mode is never going to get much traffic until EA can deliver on the promises from 3 years ago. Look at NCAA. Online dynasty is probably played 10x as much as online franchise because it matches the offline dynasty in every single feature. Nothing is left out this year in the online dynasty.

This is disappointing news, but not all too surprising. Like I have already said, I'll be waiting to buy Madden later in the year because I just don't see a big enough draw to make me want it day one. Since the introduction of online dynasty in NCAA 09 I have probably played close to 50 seasons in OD's with 09, 10, and 11. I look to add another 10+ this season too with NCAA 12. In offline dynasty I have probably played 7-8 seasons since 09 because once I played in an online dynasty I couldn't really get into an offline dynasty.

Madden 12 looks to have a good franchise finally this gen, but I have gotten to the point where I don't really care much about the offline franchise, but I do the online franchise because that is what most interests me in all sports games.

[PacMan3000]

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Notice what the EA guy said in defense initially, talking up all the cosmetic stuff, the million cameras for cut-scenes that people will just skip thru anyway, 3D grass etc etc. If there's one thing I personally criticize EA the most for is their utter focus on cosmetics/graphics over game-play/features/engine. Game-play > graphics, always. I still can look at the graphics of Madden 04 on, or 2k5, or APF, or NFL Gameday, etc, and it's still "good enough". It would still be good enough if the actual Madden 12 game had a ton more features, innovations, a new engine, more dynamic unscripted-like, new pre-snap adjustment and passing mechanisms, create a play, revolutionizing/streamlining packages etc etc....all the great suggestions people on OS have been posting for months and years.

Sorry man, but Madden on the old gen was horrible visually. I played it and had a ball until I transitioned to NFL 2K, but it looked really bad. Not to mention some of the ridiculous tackle animations, most notably the Ack-I've-Been-Shot-In-The-Back tackle.

Don't knock graphics and presentation. That stuff matters along with gameplay, and is a big reason why people adore The Show and NBA 2K.

[IndyColts2]

Re: Online Franchise Information has been released by EA SPORTS

Obviously we wished we could have gotten to the Online Franchise portion of the game this year,but we needed to first make sure the offline experience was where it needed to be and after 100 new additions/improvements along with the numerous gameplay improvements, presentation upgrades, and the HUGE online announcement that we have coming on July 25th, we ran out of time.

Some of wondered why we didn't mention this with our offline franchise and that's because we were still hard at work in the development process and did not want to to make this announcement until we knew for sure what we'd be able to get into the game this year.

As I stated earlier, we are dedicated to improving the online franchise experience and I think the addition of Roy Harvey as the new Executive Producer of Madden should make you guys feel the same way. Just take a look at the work that has been done with Online Dynasty under his watch over the years and you'll start to get a sense of the dedication that the new leadership team has.

100 new improvements is what the FIFA team does with 3 features (exaggeration for those who don't comprehend well). FIFA year in and year out tries to improve the game and it shows. They might not have the most amazing presentation as of yet, but the gameplay, career mode, online modes, and pretty much every mode you can play is well-done. I am pretty tired of hearing the excuses that you guys make no offense. Honestly speaking right now, the gameplay improvements that you guys have been making the past 5 years, are not improvements. I haven't seen the gameplay change once yet. I have been playing football, Madden, and NCAA for the past 10 years of my life and I can assure you that these games should not even be advertised because of how bad they are. The fundamentals of the game are not there at all. You guys bring in one big feature every year and the next year it's taken out.

Physics. Not just tackling physics, but the way a player moves, the way a player plants his feet while running and changing directions, the way a player reacts to contact, not just a tackle, but a block or a body part being hit in any spot at any angle. The physics of the ball being thrown, the ball being tipped, the ball in the air with wind blowing strong enough to affect it, the ball rolling on the ground in normal or inclement weather. These things are not implemented in the game the right way, if they are in the game at all.

But this would lead to a whole different wishlist that will never be fulfilled. What I am saying is that if we were to post a thread here saying, "Why hasn't EA put more work into gameplay then they did for presentation this year?" The answer by you, or your co-workers, or any other person on these boards would be, "EA has different people assigned to different jobs to work on Madden, the people who work on gameplay do not affect what happens in the presentation aspect." So, if that is true, then that would mean that EA would have a different team working on each mode or each major aspect of the game, right? If this is the case, you would have a team for the physics side of the game, actual gameplay, presentation, offline franchise/season, online franchise, online play, superstar mode, etc. Right? If so, that would mean that those who work on the online franchise did what the past 3 years? Nothing? So you mean to tell me that the people who worked on Online Franchise have had 3 years off? That doesn't sound right.

Now I do understand, and while you, EA or any other company would ever say it, that you do have to keep things out of your product in order to keep the game going every year to get the most profit. But, even if you worked as hard as possible to make the best game in all sections of the game, and you did, you still wouldn't have a perfect game. Nothing is perfect. So if you did decide to do this you would think, people are going to buy this and skip the next season! Wrong. Even if you made the best game ever, there would still be things to improve on, which would mean the next year, you would have the best game ever again because you made the game better then last year. Which is what you guys are trying to make it look like is happening now, except the fact that you guys don't see that the game is broken and nowhere near the best yet. All I am saying is that EA has got it all wrong right now and is just giving us excuses to push things off to a later date to keep us buying the game. But if they would just make a legitimate attempt at making the best game they could make. It would work out for the better. Then the next cycle you simply improve on things, you don't have to add anything. Just improve on what you have got, it would be better for us and EA.

[StL_RamZ]

What's gnna happen next year...madden 13 offline franchise and lackluster gameplay isn't going to see improvements because of online franchise right???

[jlandryst]

this is directed to Dewiel nice work so far on the franchise i have to questions?
1. Will DPP be in online franchise?
2.Will online have the same draft classes over and over?

[damitche23]

Thanks for the feedback. I feel more than confident in saying there are several areas of the game that received major improvements this year. Core gameplay has been completely reworked. The new zone coverage, removal of suction, tackling, additon of the tackle button, the dive catch, etc. This all adds up to the best playing Madden yet. And I didn't even mention DPP.

From there, you'll struggle to find a football game that has come close to the presentation that Madden NFL 12 offers. Words can;t describe the difference that having every camera from every NFL stadium in the game makes to the overall look and feel. Throw int he fact that every team has their custom entrances, the new broadcast layers, etc and you have another major improvement.

Offline franchise received 100 additions/improvements and these are major. There are things in their that you guys have requested for years and new things that most have never even thought of such as DPP that make the mode fresh and fun to play. Again, you'll have to experience it first hand to know what I mean.

Then we still have July 25th and I PROMISE you this announcement is going to change the way you guys look at playing Madden online forever. This is HUGE and you won't want to miss it.

I respect your opinion, but i want to make sure that you know the depth that has been put into this year's game.

I understand what your saying but at the same time 3 years of not tweaking of adding anything to the online franchised is wild to me. For example I work in the oil field business if work on a project and customers are buying it and I don't add or tweak something and I have some customers who like it and half doesn't like it my boss will pull me to the side and say I want something done now or you got to find a new job. Bc it's about feeling good about putting a good product out.

[at23steelers]

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Pastapadre: The only online stuff Madden 12 has worked on is the "Communities". And that is related to Online Team Play.

I wonder if this will be like NHL's OTP mode where you and your buddies just play random people either in a sim or arcade community. If that's what it is I will be disappointed.

[mestevo]

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I understand what your saying but at the same time 3 years of not tweaking of adding anything to the online franchised is wild to me. For example I work in the oil field business if work on a project and customers are buying it and I don't add or tweak something and I have some customers who like it and half doesn't like it my boss will pull me to the side and say I want something done now or you got to find a new job. Bc it's about feeling good about putting a good product out.

I'm confident the team is pretty happy with the product they put out, and there's certainly a ton of things that don't make it in every year.

[CRMosier_LM]

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Pastapadre: The only online stuff Madden 12 has worked on is the "Communities". And that is related to Online Team Play.

I wonder if this will be like NHL's OTP mode where you and your buddies just play random people either in a sim or arcade community. If that's what it is I will be disappointed.

If that statement really did come from Pasta... then he is incorrect about it only being related to OTP.

[TimsGiants]

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Really need these questions answered

so no DPP in online franchise?
no 70player rosters in oniline franchise?
no IR in online franchise?

is anything madden 12 related in online franchise?

I only play OF...thats it. I dont want to spend 60$ on a online franchise roster update that doesnt include new madden 12 features

[Stick skills]

I will look forward to buying madden 13 if you guys address online franchise til then i will enjoy playing online dynasty and an extra 60 dollars in my pocket. I understand that you cant put everything in but dont take 3 years to address something fans have been begging for.

[hrkac]

I'm at least glad they were honest about it so people (me) can cancel their preorders. It's pretty funny that they don't make any improvements to online franchise, so less people play it, so they justify not making any improvements next year. Brilliant.

[GGEden]

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If that statement really did come from Pasta... then he is incorrect about it only being related to OTP.

I'm guessing Madden Clans, maybe having more than 4 v 4 OTP, like 11 on 11. Probably a lot of other social networking type stuff, sharing videos, custom items, etc.

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