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  • CRMosier_LM
    Banned
    • Jul 2009
    • 2061

    #121
    Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

    Originally posted by dretayla
    ***steps out of lurkdom***

    I was going to refrain from commenting... mainly, b/c at this point it feels somewhat helpless to do so...

    However, if the most my post will do is add to this thread... the number of Madden players who feel letdown with this news... then it's done it's job.

    After reading several peoples opinions...

    Here's my stance...

    1. If you don't play online franchise or franchise in general... please refrain from adding your two cents about "not giving a damn..." ...when Superstar mode, online co-op mode, etc... were what you banged the drum for... we supported that cause. Support ours.

    2. I've always shook my head at Madden's "attract more users with easier gameplay" marketing the past few years... This is the same game that began with Madden stating if it didn't have 11 v 11... he wasn't signing up for it. Watering down the game isn't what made it famous... Being sim did. Thus, to that point... having the same lackluster... PlaySkool-toy like FA, Draft & Trading deal off-season for the past 3 years is pathetic.

    3. "tight schedule of an annual development cycle" - This is complete BS... My occupation is a Process Improvement (PI) consultant... I've worked with several companies auditing their coding life-cycles. When you're the ONLY video game for the BIGGEST sport in the WEALTHIEST nation... You make time. Even if this "tight schedule" is a reality... EASPORTS has the means to throw more resources at this and get the job done. If small code teams in DC can implement major infrastructure changes that impact the SEC (aka how Wall Street operates...) Surely, EASPORTS can get some coders to solely focus on replicating offline franchise to online franchise. Especially, when there's a damn case study in the same umbrella... see: NCAA Dynasty.

    4. Can we please stop touting the new gameplay updates at as "features"... these things are called "bug fixes" people. Whenever a product is doing something it shouldn't do or unexpected, it is called a "bug". When you address those bugs ("suction blocking")... they are fixes... Not gameplay "enhancements".

    5. Lastly... a message from 30+ crew... Look... Most of us grew up playing Madden... in elementary & middle school... our friends came over and we played hours on end in Madden 93/94/95... etc. Then we went to HS... we still played... just not as long and more independently. Went to college and it was back to the middle lifestyle (lol)... hours on end... with friends over sharing an "offline" franchise. Now... we're older... some have kids... some have wives... some just plain ole have jobs to worry about. The few moments we have to enjoy our friends is via Xbox Live... and it would be nice if we talk smack during the work day... or haggle each other over trades and draft position much like we do with fantasy football. And that's why myself and others are disappointed... True... it may not matter b/c it doesn't impact the game directly... However, Madden appears to be overlooking the indirect impact... The hours people can be talking about the game... while away from the game. Trades... FA... Division winners... Salary Cap... all good stuff away from the game is what is being left out.

    ...it seems the only folks "Ok" with this news is folks who could care less about the mode... and the "leaguemanager" folks... and quite frankly... I don't have time to learn and maintain that leaguemanager mess... along with my NCAA Dynasty...

    I can only choose one... NCAA 12 Dynasty... it is... again.

    Thanks.

    ***Back to Lurkdom***
    Too busy to push one button to update all your stats? Its faster than booting you PS3/Xbox lol

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    • bigbuddah180
      Rookie
      • Jan 2011
      • 10

      #122
      Re: Madden NFL 12 Mini Blog - Online Franchise Update

      Originally posted by CRMosier_LM
      Why do you say that?
      what are they going to announce? OF was the biggest thing they had going for them as far as a "REVEAL". running out of time is not a reveal. its an excuse. only thing they can reveal is no more dc's. ahaha and we all know thats not gonna happen so its pointless.

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      • CRMosier_LM
        Banned
        • Jul 2009
        • 2061

        #123
        Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

        Originally posted by bigbuddah180
        running out of time shouldnt be allowed to be considered an excuses. roy harvey shouldnt be looked at as the savior either. if its not a complete game dont put it out straight up. just another sign that EA is lazy and takes advantage of being the only game in town. this is the most ive ever heard of ppl being ok with offline franchise mode. who plays a game to play the cpu only? shooters are different as far as story mode goes. this is a sports game. player vs player the same thing 3 years in a row shouldnt be ok with anyone who knows where apf 2k8 was 4 years ago to this madden right now. they are behind and stay behind cause they "run out of time"
        Because not everyone plays online... i understand that you and your circle of friends play online only but the ratio to online and offline for Madden is about even.
        Last edited by CRMosier_LM; 07-08-2011, 04:15 PM.

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        • GiantBlue76
          Banned
          • Jun 2007
          • 3287

          #124
          Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

          Originally posted by dretayla
          ***steps out of lurkdom***

          I was going to refrain from commenting... mainly, b/c at this point it feels somewhat helpless to do so...

          However, if the most my post will do is add to this thread... the number of Madden players who feel letdown with this news... then it's done it's job.

          After reading several peoples opinions...

          Here's my stance...

          1. If you don't play online franchise or franchise in general... please refrain from adding your two cents about "not giving a damn..." ...when Superstar mode, online co-op mode, etc... were what you banged the drum for... we supported that cause. Support ours.

          2. I've always shook my head at Madden's "attract more users with easier gameplay" marketing the past few years... This is the same game that began with Madden stating if it didn't have 11 v 11... he wasn't signing up for it. Watering down the game isn't what made it famous... Being sim did. Thus, to that point... having the same lackluster... PlaySkool-toy like FA, Draft & Trading deal off-season for the past 3 years is pathetic.

          3. "tight schedule of an annual development cycle" - This is complete BS... My occupation is a Process Improvement (PI) consultant... I've worked with several companies auditing their coding life-cycles. When you're the ONLY video game for the BIGGEST sport in the WEALTHIEST nation... You make time. Even if this "tight schedule" is a reality... EASPORTS has the means to throw more resources at this and get the job done. If small code teams in DC can implement major infrastructure changes that impact the SEC (aka how Wall Street operates...) Surely, EASPORTS can get some coders to solely focus on replicating offline franchise to online franchise. Especially, when there's a damn case study in the same umbrella... see: NCAA Dynasty.

          4. Can we please stop touting the new gameplay updates at as "features"... these things are called "bug fixes" people. Whenever a product is doing something it shouldn't do or unexpected, it is called a "bug". When you address those bugs ("suction blocking")... they are fixes... Not gameplay "enhancements".

          5. Lastly... a message from 30+ crew... Look... Most of us grew up playing Madden... in elementary & middle school... our friends came over and we played hours on end in Madden 93/94/95... etc. Then we went to HS... we still played... just not as long and more independently. Went to college and it was back to the middle lifestyle (lol)... hours on end... with friends over sharing an "offline" franchise. Now... we're older... some have kids... some have wives... some just plain ole have jobs to worry about. The few moments we have to enjoy our friends is via Xbox Live... and it would be nice if we talk smack during the work day... or haggle each other over trades and draft position much like we do with fantasy football. And that's why myself and others are disappointed... True... it may not matter b/c it doesn't impact the game directly... However, Madden appears to be overlooking the indirect impact... The hours people can be talking about the game... while away from the game. Trades... FA... Division winners... Salary Cap... all good stuff away from the game is what is being left out.

          ...it seems the only folks "Ok" with this news is folks who could care less about the mode... and the "leaguemanager" folks... and quite frankly... I don't have time to learn and maintain that leaguemanager mess... along with my NCAA Dynasty...

          I can only choose one... NCAA 12 Dynasty... it is... again.

          Thanks.

          ***Back to Lurkdom***
          Being a software professional myself for over 15 years and also in the over 30 crowd, this is perhaps the most intelligent, accurate post I have ever seen on OS. Absolutely 100% correct on all counts with respect to the "excuses". That's always been my biggest beef. I've written many posts about it before. It really is amazing.

          The one thing I will disagree with you on is the use of League Manager. League Manager is a very nice tool and without it, online franchise is unusable.

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          • dretayla
            Rookie
            • Jul 2006
            • 26

            #125
            Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

            Originally posted by CRMosier_LM
            Too busy to push one button to update all your stats? Its faster than booting you PS3/Xbox lol
            Lol... I'm up for learning new tricks...

            I scoured the FAQs and other sources... to see how it was done... couldn't find anything directly. Maybe it's b/c its that simple.

            I'd love to see a how-to... so I can take advantage of this.

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            • CRMosier_LM
              Banned
              • Jul 2009
              • 2061

              #126
              Re: Madden NFL 12 Mini Blog - Online Franchise Update

              Originally posted by bigbuddah180
              what are they going to announce? OF was the biggest thing they had going for them as far as a "REVEAL". running out of time is not a reveal. its an excuse. only thing they can reveal is no more dc's. ahaha and we all know thats not gonna happen so its pointless.
              I understand you are upset but that is YOUR opinion. I'm not happy about online franchise not being upgraded either but I'm not resorting to bashing anyone or entity. There are other online game modes for them to talk about you know.

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              • CRMosier_LM
                Banned
                • Jul 2009
                • 2061

                #127
                Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

                Originally posted by tazdevil20
                Being a software professional myself for over 15 years and also in the over 30 crowd, this is perhaps the most intelligent, accurate post I have ever seen on OS. Absolutely 100% correct on all counts with respect to the "excuses". That's always been my biggest beef. I've written many posts about it before. It really is amazing.

                The one thing I will disagree with you on is the use of League Manager. League Manager is a very nice tool and without it, online franchise is unusable.
                lol keep that up man!

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                • bigbuddah180
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 10

                  #128
                  Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

                  Originally posted by CRMosier_LM
                  Because not everyone plays online... i understand that you and your circle of friends play online only but the ration to online and offline for Madden is about even.
                  how can u get those stats? you know who plays online because its....online. and by your stance your saying screw the online guys? so sad..they shouldnt be screwing anyone being the only nfl football game out.

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                  • CRMosier_LM
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 2061

                    #129
                    Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

                    Originally posted by dretayla
                    Lol... I'm up for learning new tricks...

                    I scoured the FAQs and other sources... to see how it was done... couldn't find anything directly. Maybe it's b/c its that simple.

                    I'd love to see a how-to... so I can take advantage of this.
                    shoot me an email [email protected] or send one to [email protected]

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                    • GiantBlue76
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 3287

                      #130
                      Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

                      I just have to highlight this part again. Attention EA sports executives and marketing people This right here is exactly why the M/O of intentionally leaving the game incomplete to keep the masses coming back the following year does not work. People skip and don't come back.

                      5. Lastly... a message from 30+ crew... Look... Most of us grew up playing Madden... in elementary & middle school... our friends came over and we played hours on end in Madden 93/94/95... etc. Then we went to HS... we still played... just not as long and more independently. Went to college and it was back to the middle lifestyle (lol)... hours on end... with friends over sharing an "offline" franchise. Now... we're older... some have kids... some have wives... some just plain ole have jobs to worry about. The few moments we have to enjoy our friends is via Xbox Live... and it would be nice if we talk smack during the work day... or haggle each other over trades and draft position much like we do with fantasy football. And that's why myself and others are disappointed... True... it may not matter b/c it doesn't impact the game directly... However, Madden appears to be overlooking the indirect impact... The hours people can be talking about the game... while away from the game. Trades... FA... Division winners... Salary Cap... all good stuff away from the game is what is being left out.

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                      • CRMosier_LM
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 2061

                        #131
                        Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

                        Originally posted by bigbuddah180
                        how can u get those stats? you know who plays online because its....online. and by your stance your saying screw the online guys? so sad..they shouldnt be screwing anyone being the only nfl football game out.
                        Where did you see that in my post? Are you just making that up or did you misread it? Please go back and re-read my post you are referring to because online franchise is the only game mode I play on a consistent basis... I'm fairly certain it says that in there.

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                        • HHHBigFan
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 635

                          #132
                          Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

                          This honestly went from day one purchase to never purchasing

                          Online Franchise is the only thing I play on Madden and they don't even touch it?

                          Yeah, no thanks.

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                          • dretayla
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 26

                            #133
                            Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

                            Originally posted by tazdevil20
                            I just have to highlight this part again. Attention EA sports executives and marketing people This right here is exactly why the M/O of intentionally leaving the game incomplete to keep the masses coming back the following year does not work. People skip and don't come back.
                            Exactly...

                            Last year... was the 1st year, I've ever returned Madden back within the launch month... and I've played Madden each year since 92.

                            Now, I may not even buy they game... and stick with NCAA 12.

                            I think the gameplay looks great (well, better than last years, I'll say)... but it won't do me much good if I'm unable to sucker one of my friends into trading McNabb for one of their 2nd round picks.

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                            • bigbuddah180
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 10

                              #134
                              Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

                              Originally posted by CRMosier_LM
                              Where did you see that in my post? Are you just making that up or did you misread it? Please go back and re-read my post you are referring to because online franchise is the only game mode I play on a consistent basis... I'm fairly certain it says that in there.
                              that whole last page u did not say that...and if that is the case then y do u defend it. your statement about the ration for online players to offline players makes u come off like ur ok with EA screwing online players over. am i wrong..u typed it right?

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                              • mojo6911
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 359

                                #135
                                Re: Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

                                Ok, so a 1 man show can reverse engineer a solution for online franchise owners, but EA can't build it from the ground up in 3 years? They couldn't throw 60k at the problem and hire a competent programmer to only focus on this aspect for a year? They couldn't at least give us what we had 7 years ago on 2k5 with realistic stats, trades, and salary cap?

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