Madden NFL 12 Blog - No Additions This Year For Online Franchise Mode

[Lafontaine16]

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We knew to an extent. As in online wouldn't match offline. We also were told that they didn't want to discuss it much with us because there was still some hope that they would be able to implement some of the features. Obviously that is why they didn't announce it with the offline franchise updates.

While the news is very disappointing, I seriously doubt it will over shadow the reveal on the 25th.

Please stop talking about what you know or don't know. You look silly.

Now you're suggesting you doubt it will over shadow the reveal on the 25th, because why? You suggesting you know what the mode is and what it's going to offer? Just like you said you knew about no Online Franchise upgrades and then changed the way you worded it to fit into the facts.

If you don't know what the reveal is on the 25th then it's even worse because you have no idea what the mode will offer so how can you possibly say you doubt it will over shadow the july 25th reveal.

Seriously, just stop.

[mestevo]

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Please stop talking about what you know or don't know. You look silly.

Now you're suggesting you doubt it will over shadow the reveal on the 25th, because why? You suggesting you know what the mode is and what it's going to offer? Just like you said you knew about no Online Franchise upgrades and then changed the way you worded it to fit into the facts.

If you don't know what the reveal is on the 25th then it's even worse because you have no idea what the mode will offer so how can you possibly say you doubt it will over shadow the july 25th reveal.

Seriously, just stop.

There's no point revealing anything on a specific day if it isn't designed to have a marketing impact. This would have (and could still) overshadow that announcement of additions/improvements that are being made to other online modes, getting this out now does indeed help diminish the likelihood of that no matter how bitter people may be today about it.

[ChrisToker]

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This game is gonna be bad *** new online franchise or not! Lets just take it for what it is and support the new presentation and gameplay. Im jacked for it! To hell with the minor issue. Just enjoy football!

thats the point JORDAN we all enjoy football in my case bleed Orange & Blue. So with EA not showing much of any type of innovation the last decade it frustrating to have to "put up with" just cuz its the only game on the shelf.

[Smoke6]

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Please stop talking about what you know or don't know. You look silly.

Now you're suggesting you doubt it will over shadow the reveal on the 25th, because why? You suggesting you know what the mode is and what it's going to offer? Just like you said you knew about no Online Franchise upgrades and then changed the way you worded it to fit into the facts.

If you don't know what the reveal is on the 25th then it's even worse because you have no idea what the mode will offer so how can you possibly say you doubt it will over shadow the july 25th reveal.

Seriously, just stop.

The only reveal is, is that EA supposedly made 2 seperate types of online game types, 1 for the Fair play players with rules restricting cheesey players and customizable setting to help this even further.

Next is the regular lobbies we get each and every year that its more of an "enter at your own risk" as it is now.

I dont think any news besides "Hey, we were joking guys", will do anything to change the way this news have made us feel this week! But if I spoiled something, then I am sorry but this is just "Rumored" and to be taken with a grain of salt.

[Icarus2k9]

The reason I find this news saddening is not just because it lets down a lot of people who salivated at all those offline franchise improvements and then got told they were getting none of them, but also because it goes back to that modular thinking of certain features being abandoned for a year. The kind of thinking that sees features come out with loads of issues and never get expanded upon. The kind of thinking that could see the developer get away with saying "we improved offline franchise last year, so we're now going to leave that alone".

I'm not asking for a 32-player, dream fulfilling experience that makes me breathlessly run home from work to get back on (though I have no problem in getting that). I play Madden with one other guy, and we were just hoping we could share a franchise this year for the first time ever from the comfort of our own homes.

If I remember rightly, the locker feature let you share files in the past? That's all we would need, with the odd meet up once every couple of weeks to run our drafts.

It's annoying because the moment that mode opened up in Madden 10, it was left to rot. It feels as if in a bid to produce iApps and social media portals they produced a model that was gimped from the start. Proper designers would know more than I in this case because I know nothing, but would it have been easier to create a console-based online experience that simply uploaded the latest updates to each machine as and when that person logged on?

[CRMosier_LM]

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@LaFontaine

I understand you are upset and if you feel you need a scapegoat for you frustration then by all means use me as that outlet.

I said on the Madden Roundtable that we didn't know for sure would be done for online franchise....

Because in all seriousness if you don't know something with 100% certainty then you really don't know anything at all, and I'm not in the business of feeding the rumor mill.

When i posted on here in response to the EA announcement, I said I knew online wouldn't match offline. That doesn't mean that I knew nothing would be done. I just knew that online would not be robust as offline. I knew that some folks still hoped to get some of the features over... that is it.

I'm sorry if you see that as dishonesty but both statements say pretty much the same thing. You see if I don't know what/if they are adding to online franchise would you say it would be fair of me to come on here and tell you the wrong thing? Maybe you think I should come on here and tell you they are adding all these features then when it comes out the same as last year I would take a ton of heat. That would have been dishonest of me.

The only thing I knew for certain was that online would not match offline... and that is obviously 100% accurate.

I'm not going to risk my house/car/financial stability to come on here and post something I am not allowed to or misinformation that will make everyone involved look bad.

The exact time when I knew with 100% certainty what was going on with online franchise was about 24 hours before they released the statement to the public.

I hope this clears up any problems you have with your misinterpretation.

If you have any other issues please handle them with me privately via email or twitter instead of resorting to un-warranted personal attacks.

[CRMosier_LM]

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I think Madden 12 will be the best Madden ever.

That said, putting 2 plus 2 it shows the lies people make to make themselves look good.

Casey from LM said on the madden roundtable audio that he was still hoping for a new online franchise but since he didn't know for sure they are doing their best to make LM as good as they can

Casey from LM said after they announced there were no upgrades to online franchise "i already knew there were no upgrades to online franchise but i couldn't say and had to be tight lipped" (not an exact quote) and also Casey you said that so please don't lie.

Deweil or whatever is his name is that made the announcement comes in here and says afterwards that they were still trying to put updates into Online Franchise but ran out of time

If that was the case, why did casey say he knew there were no upgrades a while ago?

It's a collusion of lies and that is just a fact. Honestly casey and Deweil don't even respond to this.

Again though, that being said Madden 12 is going to be awesome and i am very excited, i am disappointed about this news big time but the custom playbooks is something i have wanted forever and will make the game lots and lots of fun for me

I just wish the tower of lies would stop

Actually in this thread near the end is a post from you to me on the exact same thing and my response is exactly as I said it was...

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...e-year-12.html

Post #116 I quoted you and my replies are in bold text

[Smoke6]

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@LaFontaine

I understand you are upset and if you feel you need a scapegoat for you frustration then by all means use me as that outlet.

I said on the Madden Roundtable that we didn't know for sure would be done for online franchise....

Because in all seriousness if you don't know something with 100% certainty then you really don't know anything at all, and I'm not in the business of feeding the rumor mill.

When i posted on here in response to the EA announcement, I said I knew online wouldn't match offline. That doesn't mean that I knew nothing would be done. I just knew that online would not be robust as offline. I knew that some folks still hoped to get some of the features over... that is it.

I'm sorry if you see that as dishonesty but both statements say pretty much the same thing. You see if I don't know what/if they are adding to online franchise would you say it would be fair of me to come on here and tell you the wrong thing? Maybe you think I should come on here and tell you they are adding all these features then when it comes out the same as last year I would take a ton of heat. That would have been dishonest of me.

The only thing I knew for certain was that online would not match offline... and that is obviously 100% accurate.

I'm not going to risk my house/car/financial stability to come on here and post something I am not allowed to or misinformation that will make everyone involved look bad.

The exact time when I knew with 100% certainty what was going on with online franchise was about 24 hours before they released the statement to the public.

I hope this clears up any problems you have with your misinterpretation.

If you have any other issues please handle them with me privately via email or twitter instead of resorting to un-warranted personal attacks.

I wasnt expecting Online to match Offline but the lingering issues we all were having with our online franchises that enabled you to do what you have done is all I was hoping for.

Trade logic issues, salary cap issues, playoff tie breaker issues, etc, etc,,,

I wasnt looking for robustness, but a few touches here and there with an android app to boot would have went a long way IMO. The fact that we have been talking about all the "TEAMS" EA has at tiburon that breaks the development into sections, doesnt seem to be that much truth to it at all.

On top of that, they seem to be the only developer who cant push out features thru a patch of some sort. Now its getting clearer that its all about the money as there source for percentages about who play online or not is very inaccurate. I remember at one point you had over 1,000 commishes on your site when it launched (if I recall correctly) may not be that big of a number but hey!

Its amazing how games that need that online component, get it anyway and gets it good. Madden has always been a multiplayer type of experience and will always be, and now they're neglecting that online experience, they should drop the price!

[CRMosier_LM]

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I wasnt expecting Online to match Offline but the lingering issues we all were having with our online franchises that enabled you to do what you have done is all I was hoping for.

Trade logic issues, salary cap issues, playoff tie breaker issues, etc, etc,,,

I wasnt looking for robustness, but a few touches here and there with an android app to boot would have went a long way IMO. The fact that we have been talking about all the "TEAMS" EA has at tiburon that breaks the development into sections, doesnt seem to be that much truth to it at all.

On top of that, they seem to be the only developer who cant push out features thru a patch of some sort. Now its getting clearer that its all about the money as there source for percentages about who play online or not is very inaccurate. I remember at one point you had over 1,000 commishes on your site when it launched (if I recall correctly) may not be that big of a number but hey!

Its amazing how games that need that online component, get it anyway and gets it good. Madden has always been a multiplayer type of experience and will always be, and now they're neglecting that online experience, they should drop the price!

Really, I was hoping for a full robust online franchise mode... just like offline is this year

[kc10785]

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This news is a major killer for me. I don't have fun playing the computer After a couple months of playing the computer it's get stale fast. I'm strictly a online person I have some hardcore madden fans as friends and this disappoint us. How can you not touch a mode at all for 2 years in a row. I understand it will take time to match what they offer offline to match online but I think a lot of people was just asking for a little additions at least. The major headaches with the online franchise is not having some type of salary cap to make teams run fairly, Fair trade logic, and The commissioner being able to over rule and replay games.

Even though I love XFN and LM for stepping up to plate I feel I shouldn't have to turn to a 3rd party website to make a game fun. It's going to be another year for begging people to get on the website so we can all be on the same page.

EA drop the ball big time and I try my best not to come on here and be on the bash bandwagon but this is frustrating.

[Stick skills]

The biggset dissapointment for me is that a fully functional online franchise mode would really show innovation, it would have showed that they were trying. last year when they gave us their excuse i was upset but i believed it. I really hope they lose sales this year so at least they will have the motivation to really improve OF.

[aksumite]

This is a major piece of crap.

Online Franchise is broken and they site low usage #s as the reason they won't fix it....GTFOH

It's low usage is because it's broken, duh.

Madden 12 will not be purchased by my group of 10 or so coaches.

[Stick skills]

The fact of the matter is Madden does not respect its consumers. I could understand gaming issues because every game has them (fifa 11 an nba 2k11) but to not adress your main features for three years that is pathetic. free agency and trading draft picks was all they need to get my 60$ this year.

[aksumite]

Madden and NBA 2K desperately need to take a cue from NCAA's Online Dynasty

[roadman]

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The fact of the matter is Madden does not respect its consumers. I could understand gaming issues because every game has them (fifa 11 an nba 2k11) but to not adress your main features for three years that is pathetic. free agency and trading draft picks was all they need to get my 60$ this year.

And 6 yrs went on without my main feature not being touched at all. It's a good thing both franchise will be able to be upgraded at the same time in the future.