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  • bowdenfsu52
    Rookie
    • Jun 2011
    • 21

    #1

    strongst conference in fbs

    ok im tired of hearing every single sec fan saying they are the best conference. in my opinion if you have any team undefeated in your conference you clearly arent the strongest. you may have the best team in your conference that year but doesnt mean your the toughest. i think the pac 10 is much more competive than the sec. im just saying if ou compare the sec worst teams to the big 10 worst teams the big 10 would win. im just looking for your guys opinion becuase maybe im looking at it the wrong way.
  • AUsouthpaw2013
    Rookie
    • Jan 2011
    • 108

    #2
    Re: strongst conference in fbs

    So when a team goes undefeated in their respective conference that means that said conference is weak? Interesting...
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    • Miden
      Rookie
      • Jul 2010
      • 84

      #3
      Re: strongst conference in fbs

      2006:
      Florida- 41
      Ohio St.- 14

      2007:
      LSU- 38
      Ohio St- 24

      2008:
      Florida- 24
      Oklahoma- 14

      2009:
      Alabama- 37
      Texas- 21

      2010:
      Auburn- 22
      Oregon- 19


      Those are the scores of the past 5 National Championship games. 5 straight NCs with 4 different teams from the SEC winning it. In my opinion the statistics speak for themselves, but if you still don't think the SEC is the best then I don't know what to tell you. Your entitled to you opinion though.

      Originally posted by AUsouthpaw2013
      So when a team goes undefeated in their respective conference that means that said conference is weak? Interesting...
      haha... using that logic the 2 best conferences in the nation are the ACC and Big East.
      Last edited by Miden; 07-10-2011, 01:33 AM.

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      • AUsouthpaw2013
        Rookie
        • Jan 2011
        • 108

        #4
        Re: strongst conference in fbs

        Originally posted by Miden
        2006:
        Florida- 41
        Ohio St.- 14

        2007:
        LSU- 38
        Ohio St- 24

        2008:
        Florida- 24
        Oklahoma- 14

        2009:
        Alabama- 37
        Texas- 21

        2010:
        Auburn- 22
        Oregon- 19


        Those are the scores of the past 5 National Championship games. 5 straight NCs with 4 different teams from the SEC winning it. In my opinion the statistics speak for themselves, but if you still don't think the SEC is the best then I don't know what to tell you. Your entitled to you opinion though.



        haha... using that logic the 2 best conferences in the nation are the ACC and Big East.
        Well Florida had a loss both years they won, and LSU had 2 losses in '07. So I guess the SEC peaked in '07 and has been getting weaker since. Do I have that right?
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        • GAMEC0CK2002
          Stayin Alive
          • Aug 2002
          • 10384

          #5
          Re: strongst conference in fbs

          Sometimes you just have to let the facts speak for themselves. Then just walk away.

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          • ActLikeYouCrow
            MVP
            • Apr 2009
            • 1025

            #6
            Re: strongst conference in fbs

            i understand getting sick of the sec, but the pac-10? be serious. the acc is competitive too, but thats because there are a plethora of mediocre teams. the bottom big ten team probably would beat vandy, next to worst against ole miss probably would be a push.

            the sec east had a down year last year, but overall 9 out of 11 teams went to a bowl, 6 out of 11 finished with at least 9 wins. yes the sec is clearly the best conference, but no that doesnt mean the other conferences are trash or that the sec will be the best conference every year.

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            • Cusefan
              Earlwolfx on XBL
              • Oct 2003
              • 9820

              #7
              Re: strongst conference in fbs

              I'm just sick of the SEC winning the national championship every year, geeze let someone else have a turn.
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              • bowdenfsu52
                Rookie
                • Jun 2011
                • 21

                #8
                Re: strongst conference in fbs

                Originally posted by AUsouthpaw2013
                So when a team goes undefeated in their respective conference that means that said conference is weak? Interesting...
                no the weakest but im saying if you have one team that can beat all the rest every year clearly their is one team that is better. the sec is one of the strongest but alot of the crappy schools in that conference like florida and georgia use it as the excuse to why they go 5-7 and stuff like that. just becuase you have the team that wins doesnt mean you have the best conference just the best team which is the only thing true of the sec. i think a strong conference is where alot of the teams(not everyone of them) are close in the race fro the title which is exactly what the big 10 was last year. and im sorry i didnt mean pac 10 earlier i meant big 10

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                • rocker78
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1717

                  #9
                  Re: strongst conference in fbs

                  The SEC is the best conference overall. That does not mean that a team from the SEC is by default better than every other team. A mid-tier team from the other AQ conferences is going to be competitive with mid-tier sec teams. Top tier teams (Oklahoma, Florida State, Nebraska) will be competitive with top tier SEC teams.

                  The SEC is just winning the big games more in the recent past. They will cycle down at some point.
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                  • Buckeyes_Doc
                    In Dalton I Trust
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11918

                    #10
                    Re: strongst conference in fbs

                    Originally posted by rocker78
                    The SEC is the best conference overall. That does not mean that a team from the SEC is by default better than every other team. A mid-tier team from the other AQ conferences is going to be competitive with mid-tier sec teams. Top tier teams (Oklahoma, Florida State, Nebraska) will be competitive with top tier SEC teams.

                    The SEC is just winning the big games more in the recent past. They will cycle down at some point.
                    This.

                    Will the SEC be the strongest conference in 2011? Most likely, based on pre-season rankings and previous seasons. But right now in July I can't see how you can pick a strongest conference for the 2011 season ( I know the OP did not specifically ask this but I thought I would address it) I've already seen people label the SEC as the best conference for the 2011 season or label them as overrated.
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                    • Miden
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 84

                      #11
                      Re: strongst conference in fbs

                      Originally posted by bowdenfsu52
                      no the weakest but im saying if you have one team that can beat all the rest every year clearly their is one team that is better. the sec is one of the strongest but alot of the crappy schools in that conference like florida and georgia use it as the excuse to why they go 5-7 and stuff like that. just becuase you have the team that wins doesnt mean you have the best conference just the best team which is the only thing true of the sec. i think a strong conference is where alot of the teams(not everyone of them) are close in the race fro the title which is exactly what the big 10 was last year. and im sorry i didnt mean pac 10 earlier i meant big 10
                      Maybe you could give some stats or examples to describe what your trying to say, because I'm not really seeing how your argument applies. The SEC had 4 teams end the season with 10+ wins (Auburn, Alabama, LSU, Arkansas) and the Big 10 had 3 teams end with 10+wins (Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan St.)

                      In bowl games those 4 SEC teams went 3-1 while those 3 Big Ten teams went 1-2.

                      The Big 10 is a good league, but I'm not seeing what makes them obviously better than the SEC. The Big Ten has just as many sucky, bottom-feeding teams as the SEC does, but at the top I think the SEC is just overall deeper. You don't have 4 different teams win 5 straight titles unless you have a group of very good teams competing for titles year in and year out.

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                      • bowdenfsu52
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 21

                        #12
                        Re: strongst conference in fbs

                        Have you guys noticed everyone who is arguing my point is ans sec fan or a fan from a lower conference. And the ones who say that they could be or not are fans of other conferences this is just making my point that sec fans think they are the strongest but you did make a great point with the fact they dominated the bowl season agaisnt big ten but the big 10 is never good in bowl season.

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                        • KSUowls
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5893

                          #13
                          Re: strongst conference in fbs

                          Originally posted by bowdenfsu52
                          no the weakest but im saying if you have one team that can beat all the rest every year clearly their is one team that is better. the sec is one of the strongest but alot of the crappy schools in that conference like florida and georgia use it as the excuse to why they go 5-7 and stuff like that. just becuase you have the team that wins doesnt mean you have the best conference just the best team which is the only thing true of the sec. i think a strong conference is where alot of the teams(not everyone of them) are close in the race fro the title which is exactly what the big 10 was last year. and im sorry i didnt mean pac 10 earlier i meant big 10
                          Neither of those schools have gone 5-7. Georgia went 6-7 last year and hadn't had fewer than 8 wins before that since the 90s :P. Part of the reason we went 6-7 last year is because of the SEC, but mostly it was just because the team sucked last year.

                          Having a lot of teams close in the standings just means that the teams are close to each other in terms of talent. By your logic a conference with Vanderbilt, Duke, Eastern Michigan, North Texas, New Mexico State, etc...would be just as good of a conference as one with '10 Auburn, '09 Alabama, '08 Florida, '07 LSU, '06 Florida, '05 Texas, '04 USC.

                          Your later point about who is arguing for/against the SEC has a few flaws. #1 it's based on a very small sample size (in the 247,000 other threads like this there is a consensus that the SEC has been the best, which leads into the next point), #2 those in this thread arguing against the SEC are arguing for 2011 because it is too early to say (not that they weren't the best in 2010, 2009, 2008, etc..), #3 it's kind of natural for people to bias towards their own team, region etc (though of course if you look at a large sample you'll see that despite this it is recognize that the SEC has been the top conference)

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                          • Palo20
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 3908

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bowdenfsu52
                            ok im tired of hearing every single sec fan saying they are the best conference. in my opinion if you have any team undefeated in your conference you clearly arent the strongest. you may have the best team in your conference that year but doesnt mean your the toughest. i think the pac 10 is much more competive than the sec. im just saying if ou compare the sec worst teams to the big 10 worst teams the big 10 would win. im just looking for your guys opinion becuase maybe im looking at it the wrong way.
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                            Worst teams in the Big Ten: Indiana Purdue, Minnesota, Michigan, Illinois.

                            Those are just random guesses, but could be true in any given year.

                            I'll take the SEC's "worst" over the Big Ten's "worst."
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                            • mKoz26
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                              • Jan 2009
                              • 4685

                              #15
                              Re: strongst conference in fbs

                              Originally posted by bowdenfsu52
                              Have you guys noticed everyone who is arguing my point is ans sec fan or a fan from a lower conference.
                              I'm an Illinois fan, and I know the SEC is the best conference by a decent margin.

                              It has nothing to do with homerism.

                              Now, going forward, any conference could take over at any time because that's the way CFB works.
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