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  • RealmK
    Banned
    • Sep 2003
    • 4199

    #16
    Re: NHL 12 Gameplay Vids

    Originally posted by AtomicLegend
    I think they would be fine IF and I mean if they spoke lines that were relevant to what is said on T.V.

    When I get a slashing penalty do you ever hear the analyst say "That looked like a baseball swing, he slashed him so hard!" on T.V? The who script is a joke and needs to be scrapped or the commentators need to be removed.
    That's certainly part of it.

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    • cup4blues
      Rookie
      • Sep 2003
      • 51

      #17
      Re: NHL 12 Gameplay Vids

      For how sports game commentary should be done, see NBA 2k11.

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      • Poro24
        Rookie
        • Sep 2007
        • 77

        #18
        Re: NHL 12 Gameplay Vids

        At this moment i have lost all my respect to EA. So far this game seems like a tiny small patch to NHL 11 (and NHL 10...). A new game should feel fresh and new. Does this look fresh and new to you?

        The budged for this game must be millions, but still they can't add anything new into the presentation. No new stat overlays, no new replay angles, no new lines for commentators, no changes for those old arenas. Someone who doesn't follow hockey could easily think that NHL 08 and NHL 12 are a same game.

        If you can be excited about this game, then im happy for you.
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        • Vikes1
          Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
          • May 2008
          • 4115

          #19
          Re: NHL 12 Gameplay Vids

          Originally posted by plaidchuck
          Hmm the AI D still looked really passive and dumping the puck till seems pointless IMO...
          And dumping the puck is such a big part of the real game...it'll be a shame if '12' [through sliders if need be] doesn't represent this.

          I guess for me to be completely fair, if I used manual line changes...I imagine it would force more dump in's for me. But it imo...should really be something that the cpu AI should force much more than currently, due to more realistic aggression.

          I love the NHL game, and play all the time. But dang...the up and down gameplay does get a bit dull.
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          • TNA Equalizer
            Rookie
            • Sep 2010
            • 46

            #20
            Re: NHL 12 Gameplay Vids

            Originally posted by Poro24
            If you can be excited about this game, then im happy for you.
            I know I am excited for it, perhaps being lucky enough to play an early build of NHL 12 at community day helps that matter. Don't get me wrong I've had my gripes with this series and I get where some of it legitimately comes from. I've also seen a lot of absurd requests/demands about various game series (not just NHL) coming from people that think development takes no effort, a company has an endless budget, or that developers are being lazy.

            Though to suggest that NHL 12 is merely a small patch would be selling the game's development team short of the effort they put forward trying to produce the as good of a hockey experience as they are able to do with what they have. In a annual franchise I would believe the development time window is limited and you have to pick and choose how to spend your limited time working on the game. Call me crazy though.

            Sorry you feel that way though and perhaps, I admit, my view might be a tad bit different if I was in the same boat as prior years before the game launched.
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            • savoie2006
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              • Sep 2006
              • 4659

              #21
              Re: NHL 12 Gameplay Vids

              Originally posted by Poro24
              At this moment i have lost all my respect to EA. So far this game seems like a tiny small patch to NHL 11 (and NHL 10...). A new game should feel fresh and new. Does this look fresh and new to you?

              The budged for this game must be millions, but still they can't add anything new into the presentation. No new stat overlays, no new replay angles, no new lines for commentators, no changes for those old arenas. Someone who doesn't follow hockey could easily think that NHL 08 and NHL 12 are a same game.

              If you can be excited about this game, then im happy for you.
              I'll agree based on what we've seen, but we haven't really seen much, so I think you're jumping the gun a bit. So maybe you don't really have reason to be calling it a must buy at this point, but I wouldn't call it a patch of NHL11 until you've played the full version.
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              • plaidchuck
                Pro
                • Aug 2009
                • 894

                #22
                Re: NHL 12 Gameplay Vids

                Also another thing, notice the same old crappy short side goal in one of the videos? I think it's kind of odd how the hardest place to score in real life is the go to place for a shot in this game.
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                • ChaseB
                  #BringBackFaceuary
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 9647

                  #23
                  Re: NHL 12 Gameplay Vids

                  Originally posted by plaidchuck
                  Also another thing, notice the same old crappy short side goal in one of the videos? I think it's kind of odd how the hardest place to score in real life is the go to place for a shot in this game.
                  I don't really agree with this. The goalie was clearly screened, went down early when he couldn't see and was readying to push to the other side of the net. Caps player snuck down into the slot and roofed one.

                  Completely different style of short side goal than what you would normally see in NHL 11 where someone comes and just slappers it or wrap wristers it short side high. It was an organic scoring chance after a poor clearing attempt -- it's the exact thing NHL needs to do more of.
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                  • plaidchuck
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 894

                    #24
                    Re: NHL 12 Gameplay Vids

                    Originally posted by ChaseB
                    I don't really agree with this. The goalie was clearly screened, went down early when he couldn't see and was readying to push to the other side of the net. Caps player snuck down into the slot and roofed one.

                    Completely different style of short side goal than what you would normally see in NHL 11 where someone comes and just slappers it or wrap wristers it short side high. It was an organic scoring chance after a poor clearing attempt -- it's the exact thing NHL needs to do more of.
                    Yeah I agree it did stem from a good scoring chance but it still doesn't convince me that the cheese slappers and loaded wristers are gone. Also the AI self-pinning is still there..
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                    • ChaseB
                      #BringBackFaceuary
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 9647

                      #25
                      Re: NHL 12 Gameplay Vids

                      Originally posted by plaidchuck
                      Yeah I agree it did stem from a good scoring chance but it still doesn't convince me that the cheese slappers and loaded wristers are gone. Also the AI self-pinning is still there..
                      Yep, the self-pinning looks silly -- I would agree with that.

                      As someone who has played the game twice now, I think you'll be impressed by goal variety that's present here. I wouldn't be ready to say certain "money" goals are gone, but I think part of the reason "money" goals are so present is because goal variety is hard to come by in the game. If you provide more ways to score, you get more ways to play. Cheesers will cheese, but that's not really something that is curable on every level.
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                      • jyoung
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11157

                        #26
                        Re: NHL 12 Videos - Gameplay

                        This series needs competition badly.

                        It's been on cruise-control since 2K stopped putting out games on the 360/PS3.

                        Icebreaker, where are you?

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                        • mike24forever
                          24 Forever
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3177

                          #27
                          Re: NHL 12 Videos - Gameplay

                          Originally posted by wEEman33
                          This series needs competition badly.

                          It's been on cruise-control since 2K stopped putting out games on the 360/PS3.

                          Icebreaker, where are you?
                          Typical rhetoric! EA had competition, 2K unfortunately walked away from hockey title on the 360/PS3. If Icebreaker is going to be your dark horse in the race, you are going to keep losing like my Maple Leafs! You need to stop playing EA sport titles, because all you do is troll about them.
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                          • ChaseB
                            #BringBackFaceuary
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 9647

                            #28
                            Re: NHL 12 Videos - Gameplay

                            Originally posted by wEEman33
                            This series needs competition badly.

                            It's been on cruise-control since 2K stopped putting out games on the 360/PS3.

                            Icebreaker, where are you?


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                            Last edited by ChaseB; 07-10-2011, 10:19 PM.
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                            • tyler289
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 2937

                              #29
                              Re: NHL 12 Videos - Gameplay

                              I do get a kick how they tell us there are "new desperation saves," when it's really the same animation that I wish they would get rid off (because they've tuned it to happen in all the wrong times).

                              Chase/anyone, are there actually a lot of new save animations, or is it mostly the same? I'm skeptical, but hope I'm wrong.

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                              • ChaseB
                                #BringBackFaceuary
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 9647

                                #30
                                Re: NHL 12 Videos - Gameplay

                                Originally posted by tyler289
                                I do get a kick how they tell us there are "new desperation saves," when it's really the same animation that I wish they would get rid off (because they've tuned it to happen in all the wrong times).

                                Chase/anyone, are there actually a lot of new save animations, or is it mostly the same? I'm skeptical, but hope I'm wrong.
                                I've been a bit perplexed by that as well. I guess some of the old saves are new because of the way they can be in one animation and then be hit into a different one. There are certainly new animations, and the way animations tie together is better, but it's still a bit baffling in terms of what they've selected to be shown in screens and short videos.

                                As for your last point, it's another one of those things I don't want to say is gone, but I haven't seen the split-legged-cross-crease-for-no-reason animation in the five or so games I've played.
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