Restrictions playing as Ohio State

[CollegeFootball4Ever]

As a Buckeyes fan, naturally I'm going to start a dynasty using OSU. I'm going to make it as realistic as possible, so I'm planning on benching the naughty players (Herron, Posey, etc.) until their suspension is over.

On top of this, anyone have any suggestions on how to "fake" some impending sanctions from NCAA? Obviously, I can't turn down bowl offers, but I was thinking in terms of recruiting, etc.

Initial thoughts/possibilities:
* Limit number of 5 star recruits I can go after for first three years
* Limit time I can spend from 10 hrs. a week to 7 (or something)
* Only offer 15 scholarships a year for first few years (or something like this)

Any one else have any ideas or ways they are dealing with this?

[EvanRG]

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As fellow Buckeye fan, I would suggest you remove Pryor since he's actually no longer on the team. You can get a roster now that reflects this, plus it adds Taylor Graham who wasn't on the roster before. =)

[cap032]

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You could penalize yourself by not using the chamionship contender pitch for 1 year. That way, it would also be acting as if you had a 1yr bowl ban.

[Wildcats302]

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Yeah, you could enforce a bowl ban...lose 7 games in year one.

I like what you plan to do with recruiting, etc, good ideas, and not playing the bad boys lol.

I want to do that as well but I don't play with OSU. Can I bench them for 5 games and then put them back as starters?

[CollegeFootball4Ever]

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As fellow Buckeye fan, I would suggest you remove Pryor since he's actually no longer on the team. You can get a roster now that reflects this, plus it adds Taylor Graham who wasn't on the roster before. =)

I have downloaded a roster that does not include Pryor. I'll probably start the season out with Bauserman splitting time with Miller.

I like the idea of not using the championship contender pitch as well. As of now, my plan is:

* no championship contender pitch - 2 years
* only 7 hours recruiting a week
* I can only put 3 5 star guys on my board - 2 years
* only sign 15 total players - 2 years

Don't know if that is too harsh or too lenient...I guess since the real NCAA determination isn't fully out, it's tough to compare.

[CollegeFootball4Ever]

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Yeah, you could enforce a bowl ban...lose 7 games in year one.

I like what you plan to do with recruiting, etc, good ideas, and not playing the bad boys lol.

I want to do that as well but I don't play with OSU. Can I bench them for 5 games and then put them back as starters?

I haven't looked at the editing functions for other teams. Don't know if you can reorder their rosters manually.

[NealN42]

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I'm also a fellow Buckeye, but I'm also a very well informed one...and can tell you with 100% certainty that the chances of us having a bowl ban are slim to none with slim recently leaving town. Never before in NCAA history has a team been given a bowl ban without forst getting a Lack of Institutional Control and/or Failure to Monitor charge by the NCAA, neither of which we got. Heck, UNC somehow even avoided those charges despite having 10x worse infractions than us. So if you want to be realistic, play the bowl game.

[CollegeFootball4Ever]

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I'm also a fellow Buckeye, but I'm also a very well informed one...and can tell you with 100% certainty that the chances of us having a bowl ban are slim to none with slim recently leaving town. Never before in NCAA history has a team been given a bowl ban without first getting a Lack of Institutional Control and/or Failure to Monitor charge by the NCAA, neither of which we got. Heck, UNC somehow even avoided those charges despite having 10x worse infractions than us. So if you want to be realistic, play the bowl game.

I like your confidence. I hope you are right. I'm not quite as assured will escape a bowl ban, but it would be nice.

[Wildcats302]

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I'm also a fellow Buckeye, but I'm also a very well informed one...and can tell you with 100% certainty that the chances of us having a bowl ban are slim to none with slim recently leaving town. Never before in NCAA history has a team been given a bowl ban without forst getting a Lack of Institutional Control and/or Failure to Monitor charge by the NCAA, neither of which we got. Heck, UNC somehow even avoided those charges despite having 10x worse infractions than us. So if you want to be realistic, play the bowl game.

As an intelligent Buckeye fan, I would think you would know the NCAA is still very much investigating UNC for what they did my friend.

I think your team deserves a 1 game bowl ban myself and clearly Tressell failed to monitor his players and showed a lack of institutional control throughout the process, as did your AD. The whole trying to cover up and lying to the NCAA is pretty big stuff.

[NealN42]

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Actually if you knew what Lack of Instituitonal Control means you wouldn't be saying that. Gene Smith (the AD) didn't know about this while it was going on, as Tressel wasn't telling anyone for some reason. So obviously the compliance dept. couldn't have known either, thus completely eliminating LOIC as a possible charge (which the NCAA obviously agreed with). 5-6 players selling their own memorabilia to get less expensive tattoos, and the coach staying quiet about it (who wasn't actually interviewed by the NCAA about it until right before his resignation, he just made the mistake of signing the document from OSU last year in response to the allegation stating he didn't know anything). With Tressel already having been forced out, Pryor leaving, the other 5 being suspended half the season, and a self imposed 2 year probation (which was decided upon after working with the NCAA, not just something we randomly came up with), and no further charges...how in the world is that NOT already more than enough punishment for such an incredibly trivial violation??

[shnuskis]

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Actually if you knew what Lack of Instituitonal Control means you wouldn't be saying that. Gene Smith (the AD) didn't know about this while it was going on, as Tressel wasn't telling anyone for some reason. So obviously the compliance dept. couldn't have known either, thus completely eliminating LOIC as a possible charge (which the NCAA obviously agreed with). 5-6 players selling their own memorabilia to get less expensive tattoos, and the coach staying quiet about it (who wasn't actually interviewed by the NCAA about it until right before his resignation, he just made the mistake of signing the document from OSU last year in response to the allegation stating he didn't know anything). With Tressel already having been forced out, Pryor leaving, the other 5 being suspended half the season, and a self imposed 2 year probation (which was decided upon after working with the NCAA, not just something we randomly came up with), and no further charges...how in the world is that NOT already more than enough punishment for such an incredibly trivial violation??

Incredibly trivial violation? I don't follow it as close as you do, but I have heard the name Ray Small, heard of the 8 cars Pryor has "owned" since being at The Ohio State, and heard of the $20,000-$40,000 he reveived for selling autographs and memorbilia. And as Small said, everyone was doing it. The best deals were on cars he said. Interesting, because car deals were part of the Youngstown State investigation with Tressel too.

[CollegeFootball4Ever]

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Rather than letting this get further into how much OSU did/did not know, and become an non-NCAA 12 thread, are there any other thoughts on good ways to restrict or manually assess some sort of punishments towards a program?

[shnuskis]

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I like the ideas posted so far and think they are in line with where things are at IRL right now. But I have a question as to how to impiment not using the Championship Contender while recruiting on Heisman. You only get one "change subject" per call. Sometimes the same topic comes up two times. Do you use a promise you had no intention of using just to avoid using that topic?

[redsfan4life]

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Incredibly trivial violation? I don't follow it as close as you do, but I have heard the name Ray Small, heard of the 8 cars Pryor has "owned" since being at The Ohio State, and heard of the $20,000-$40,000 he reveived for selling autographs and memorbilia. And as Small said, everyone was doing it. The best deals were on cars he said. Interesting, because car deals were part of the Youngstown State investigation with Tressel too.

The NCAA hasn't recognized what Small said to this point as there's no evidence to back it up. It's simply hearsay at this point, wasn't included in the notice of allegations so it's not relevant.

[Montezuma]

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They are far from done investigating. Its just gone silent because the media isn't breaking the stories. Its quiet, not over. OSU trumps UNC in a lot of ways. Total cash involved, players involved, timeline of offenses, involvement of the HC, history of this going back to 02.

IMO the Sugar Bowl Embarrassment will be the tipping point in the eventual bowl ban. Coach knew his guys were ineligible. The school and conference still lobbied for them to play. The NCAA caved like good little yes-men. Then it turns out much worse.

That NOA was up to a certain point. They can easily send another as more gets verified.

The NCAA hasn't recognized what Small said to this point as there's no evidence to back it up. It's simply hearsay at this point, wasn't included in the notice of allegations so it's not relevant.