Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

[jcern23]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

got mine set at 40 and deep ball hasnt been easy for me, maybe you're right!!

Ya I have mine at 40 as well and I just tested using 4 verticals every play against Bama and they had me on lockdown basically so maybe it is something threshold.

[Watson]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

I feel like I'm lucky if I score 2 TDs passing with Mid Tennessee.

[kevj349]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

People who say that passing is easy don't play "sim" ball. The only way that you can pass all over on harder settings is going to the "go to" routes like hitting the TE on 4 verts. Certain routes are open on certain plays a lot of the time. I could complete 90% of my passes doing this, but I choose to pick different plays and mix it up so I can't just go to those same plays.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

Simple solution.....drop speed threshold to 0. There is no way in the world you can throw deep balls all day on Heisman on that setting. You will get sacked more times then not.

Unless you one of those back up 30 yards then throw it type of players. Looking at the highlight thread, I already know some you people are.

[Marcus34]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

Sounds like you just spent too much time mastering NCAA. Im playing AA and am having a difficult time putting points on the board

[ehh]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

People who say that passing is easy don't play "sim" ball. The only way that you can pass all over on harder settings is going to the "go to" routes like hitting the TE on 4 verts. Certain routes are open on certain plays a lot of the time. I could complete 90% of my passes doing this, but I choose to pick different plays and mix it up so I can't just go to those same plays.

I tried a lot of 4-verts and cheese plays for testing purposes in my final game of the evening last night and still couldn't complete a thing. The CPU secondary has ish on lock whenever they please.

[kingsofthevalley]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

People who say that passing is easy don't play "sim" ball. The only way that you can pass all over on harder settings is going to the "go to" routes like hitting the TE on 4 verts. Certain routes are open on certain plays a lot of the time. I could complete 90% of my passes doing this, but I choose to pick different plays and mix it up so I can't just go to those same plays.

Exactly. Once you find those money plays, leave...them....alone. End of story lol.

[kevj349]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

I tried a lot of 4-verts and cheese plays for testing purposes in my final game of the evening last night and still couldn't complete a thing. The CPU secondary has ish on lock whenever they please.

It isn't just four verticals, if your TE lines up on the line for it with 2 wr out to the right the TE always gets free after about 10 yards. Same play that happened in 11. That is why this play was eliminated from our OD custom playbooks.

[ehh]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

It isn't just four verticals, if your TE lines up on the line for it with 2 wr out to the right the TE always gets free after about 10 yards. Same play that happened in 11. That is why this play was eliminated from our OD custom playbooks.

Sure, I know the situation you're referring to. I find that if the CPU is playing a zone then more often than not the underneath LB will be able to defend that pass if the TE is still shallow enough and once the TE gets deeper the safeties rotate and will either pick the ball off or hit the TE as soon as he catches it resulting in a dropped pass.

I can still complete it some times (basically when the safety crushes my TE but he still hangs on to the ball) but it's far from automatic from what I've seen so far.

[cbc72]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

Really? You're saying that CPU coverage on 100 is too easy?

I'm playing on default AA and the DBs are killing me with exceptional coverage.

It really sounds like we're playing two different games

This is my experience as well.

Of course, I have not tried running 4 verticals every play. ;-)

4 verts was a cheat play for me last year, hitting the tight end over the middle, worked 90% of the time.

I am not seeing him open this year on that play, plus, when I do run 4 verts, by the time my WR gets to the safety level, my QB is usually getting leveled.

[sportsgamefanman]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

That is your problem. Put it at 0 and you won't have all day to throw deep balls non stop.

I don't get that... I had at 0 when I started tweaking my slider set. I was seeing guys break away more so with slider threshold at 0. From my understanding the lower the threshold the more difference in speed differntial from the faster guys from the slower guys. So how would that help. You want less speed differential. I just try and stay away from over 50 because then you have LB's chasing down RB's from behind. Am I missing something with this slider?


My sliders I'm playing on are below but I'm still tweaking them.

Options
Difficulty- Heisman
Quarter Length-9 min
Game Speed- Slow
Speed Threshold- 45 (I had at 0 tostart then ended up moving it to 25,30,32,40, and now at 45)


Penalties
Offsides: 65
False Start: 60
Holding: 53
Facemask: 53
Offensive PI: 100
Defensive PI: 100
KR/<ACRONYM>PR</ACRONYM> Interference: 100
Clipping: 53
Intentional Grounding: 100
Roughing the Passer: 53
Roughing the Kicker: 50

Sliders (User/CPU)

Offense
QBA- 20/25
Pass BLK- 50/50
WR Catch- 40/45
RBA- 55/65
Run Block- 35/60

Defense
Pass Coverage- 75/100
Pass Rush- 50/50
Int- 25/50 ( not sure if this could be the issue as I have heard if you turn this slider down then it effects pass coverage?)
Run Defense- 45/65
Tkl- 35/35 (better break tackle animations and they happen rather than not at 50)

Special Teams
FG Power- 40/45
FGA- 40/45
Punt Power- 40/45
Punt ACC- 40/45
Kick Off Power- 45/45


OFFENSE
QB OUT-60
QB IN-65
RB OUT-80
RB IN-85
WR OUT-80
WR IN-85
FB/TE OUT-80
FB/TE IN-85
OL OUT-60
OL IN-65

DEFENSE
DT OUT-84
DT IN-85
DE OUT-84
DE IN-85
LB OUT-80
LB IN-85
CB OUT-70
CB IN-75
S OUT-70
S IN-75


I dont want to tweak pass rush as they are getting pressure and getting a few sacks. I don't want to fix 1 problem to create another that is unrealistic.

I do think player edits with ratings will solve these issues though. I'm not saying I'm a great player by any means but I DO play sim & NEVER drop back 30 yards and throw for the record. I wait til my guy makes his cut after reading D and throw. The majority of the problem is the pass coverage slider is broke and doesn't do anything and also anytime the CPU jams me its guaranteed money once my player releases from it!

[ehh]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

I don't want to fix 1 problem to create another that is unrealistic.

Unfortunately that's life when it comes to software/programming/tweaking things.

[87Birdman]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

Yeah I also stated earlier that with the threshold at 0 I was getting a weird speed boost from my receivers to catch up to the ball, which in turn got enough seperation that it was an easy TD. I haven't been able to complete those passes with it at 50 though, so who knows. But this was on default Heisman.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

I think defensive AI is perfect right now, actually.

Short, medium and deep is all fine for me. Tight coverage at times and sometimes wide open.

Yeah, it's tough to hit the deep ball...as it should be.

[admijosco]

Re: Something is seriously wrong with the defensive AI.

Really? You're saying that CPU coverage on 100 is too easy?

I'm playing on default AA and the DBs are killing me with exceptional coverage.

It really sounds like we're playing two different games

Yeah, I can barely complete anything downfield as well. Every time I try it's tipped.