Madden NFL 12 Has Rated Four Players at 99. Overrated? Who Missed the Cut?

[R0M0mentum09]

Gates is better than more than just TDs though, you're trying to minimize the difference between the two to make your argument and it's just not the case. They're both very good, but on paper Gates is better.

I'm just saying Witten's catch should be in the high 90's not a flat 90. I will agree Gates is slightly better (athleticism) but Witten is a better route runner, has better hands and possibly is a better blocker. I'm just saying based off last seasons stats you can't really give either one of them the edge, they're apple's and oranges. I'd say 97-98 Witten and 98 Gates would be fair.

Now anyone care to explain why Ware hasn't earned the "coveted" 99 OVR rating as of yet?

[Deelron]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Has Rated Four Players at 99, Overrated? Who Missed the Cut?

Guys who play in 10 out of 17 games in a season due to injury shouldn't be a 99 the next year, nor should a guy who has played 19 games over the past 2 seasons. Being on the field really should be accounted for in OVR by now.

[robbiedizzle]

Revis lined up against most the top WR's. He cover the left, right and slot and did it missing all off season workouts and with a bad hamstring.

The way the Raiders play defense is why Nnamdi plays one side of the field. He also play 95% man to man. The Jets use ALOT of zone blitzes. So Revis gets blitz help and safety zone over the top help. In no way am I attempting to knock Revis...just saying Nnamdi is better if you break down the position.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Has Rated Four Players at 99, Overrated? Who Missed the Cut?

Donny rates by TD's Witten's 90 catch rating is a joke! Vernon Davis has even said Witten has the best hands of any WR/TE in the entire league. Witten is also the only TE with a shot at Tony Gonzalez all time TE catch record.

At the end of the day Donny obsesses over athletic TE's (see Jermichael FInley's premature rise and the fact that Vernon Davis is still in the high 90's along with Gates being a 99) he also seems to rate strictly on TD's?

This hurts a player like Witten whom in his system is blocking in the redzone. Donny disappoints yet again by giving Gates a 99 based purely off of speculation.

When you get the game, the first thing you need to do is edit Witten to a 99 and edit down Gates to whatever you want him to be.

Rosters are fully editable in franchise mode!!!

You are the master of your football universe!

What a concept.

[HeavyHitter55]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Has Rated Four Players at 99, Overrated? Who Missed the Cut?

Awesome, a Steeler and a former Pitt Panther. I don't really think any of them are overrated. They are all among the best at their respective positions. I think nitpicking over ratings becomes somewhat irrelevant once you get over 95 anyways.

Well, if that's how you could argue it, then why aren't there 22 guys who are 99?

I see what you're saying about ratings over 95, but to have 4 guys be the absolute best throughout the league is a bit ridiculous IMO. I'd like to see ratings stretched out a bit more with less guys over 95 and more players in the 60s to 80s, because (IMO) great players make average players look good.

[SIMstyle]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Has Rated Four Players at 99, Overrated? Who Missed the Cut?

stretched out is right. here's my rating scale.

best at position - 94-96 (Brady 95, A.Johnson 96, Manning 96, Fitzgerald 95)
pro-bowl players 90-93 (e.g. Ray Lewis, 90)
elite (cusp of pro bowl) 87-88 (e.g. Wes Welker, 88)
Very Good 85-87 (3 years of consistently good numbers e.g. Anquan Boldin, 87)
Good 80-84 (e.g. Hines Ward, 82)
average NFL starter 70-79 (Deion Branch, 71)
2nd string bench contributor - 60-69 (Tully Banta-Cain, 66)
bench player/special teams standout 50-59 (e.g. Brandon Tate, 52)
end of roster/special teams player 40-49
1st rounders - 65-70
2nd rounders - 60-65
3rd rounders - 50-59
drafted after the 4th round - 40-49
rookie free agent - 30-39

[robbiedizzle]

here's my rating scale.

best at position - 94-96 (Brady, AJ, Manning)
pro-bowl players 90-93 (Ray Lewis, 90)
elite (cusp of pro bowl) 87-88 (e.g. Wes Welker, 88)
Very Good 85-87 (3 years of consistent numbers e.g. Anquan Boldin, 87)
Good 80-84 (e.g. Hines Ward, 82)
average NFL starter 70-79 (Deion Branch, 71)
2nd string bench contributor - 60-69 (Tully Banta-Cain)
bench player/special teams standout 50-59 (e.g. Brandon Tate, 52)
end of roster/special teams player 40-49
1st rounders - 65-70
2nd rounders - 60-65
3rd rounders - 50-59
drafted after the 4th round - 40-49
rookie free agent - 30-39

I could agree to that scale.

[Outkizast]

Revis a 99??? I can somewhat understand the other 3, but Revis is no 99. Can anyone say MEDIA HYPE?

[Ronnie brown23]

nnamdi isnt a 99 overall. wat a joke

[24]

I really felt that Aaron Rodgers should have been a 99 overall rating. I disagree with the Revis rating. he is certainly skilled enough but he missed alot of time last season.

[scfootballfan]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Has Rated Four Players at 99, Overrated? Who Missed the Cut?

Brady? Who won the Superbowl? Rodgers should be a 99.

So Rodgers winning one compared to Brady's three and the fact he threw 4 picks all year makes them equal? Not to mention Rodgers has better personnel around him. Brady is top three QB's of all time, Rodgers isn't even the best Packer QB of all time.

[scfootballfan]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Has Rated Four Players at 99, Overrated? Who Missed the Cut?

they're all overrated. no active player should be ranked over a 96. 97-99 ratings should be reserved for all-time greats like Deion, Barry, Payton and Jerry Rice.

I actually agree with this statement. IMO 99 should be left to MUT.

[HeavyHitter55]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Has Rated Four Players at 99, Overrated? Who Missed the Cut?

stretched out is right. here's my rating scale.

best at position - 94-96 (Brady, AJ, Manning)
pro-bowl players 90-93 (Ray Lewis, 90)
elite (cusp of pro bowl) 87-88 (e.g. Wes Welker, 88)
Very Good 85-87 (3 years of consistently good numbers e.g. Anquan Boldin, 87)
Good 80-84 (e.g. Hines Ward, 82)
average NFL starter 70-79 (Deion Branch, 71)
2nd string bench contributor - 60-69 (Tully Banta-Cain)
bench player/special teams standout 50-59 (e.g. Brandon Tate, 52)
end of roster/special teams player 40-49
1st rounders - 65-70
2nd rounders - 60-65
3rd rounders - 50-59
drafted after the 4th round - 40-49
rookie free agent - 30-39

I can agree with this except for the rookies. I'd make the following changes:

1st rounders - 70-79 (absolute elite rookies in college above 77: Von Miller, A.J. Green, Prince Amukamara, Marcell Dareus)
2nd & 3rd rounders - 60-69 (a pretty even distribution here)
Rounds 4 through 7 - 46-59
rookie free agent - 30-45

I know that no rookie ever proves that he belongs in the NFL, but that doesn't mean that you can't neglect what he's done at a level lower. Anyway, there's a lot that goes into the NFL draft, why should it not be reflected?

[markman282]

dont see how Ed Reed isnt a 99 if Troy is

[scfootballfan]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Has Rated Four Players at 99, Overrated? Who Missed the Cut?

stretched out is right. here's my rating scale.

best at position - 94-96 (Brady, AJ, Manning)
pro-bowl players 90-93 (e.g. Ray Lewis, 90)
elite (cusp of pro bowl) 87-88 (e.g. Wes Welker, 88)
Very Good 85-87 (3 years of consistently good numbers e.g. Anquan Boldin, 87)
Good 80-84 (e.g. Hines Ward, 82)
average NFL starter 70-79 (Deion Branch, 71)
2nd string bench contributor - 60-69 (Tully Banta-Cain, 66)
bench player/special teams standout 50-59 (e.g. Brandon Tate, 52)
end of roster/special teams player 40-49
1st rounders - 65-70
2nd rounders - 60-65
3rd rounders - 50-59
drafted after the 4th round - 40-49
rookie free agent - 30-39

Those all make sense, but there is no way EA would drop ratings that much. Gotta keep the players happy.