NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

[Cpterp22]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

Shouldn't this be put on the roster page so those guys are wasting their hard earned time?

[imwhatzup]

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Here's a question: Does it affect RTG?

[Bumble14]

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What difficulty are you guys playing on?

I'm going to be perfectly honest, so don't kill me here, but I am not seeing that big of a difference on default Heisman. Running a test with Michigan's QB I found him to still scramble when the opportunity presented itself even when being considered a balanced QB. Now as a scrambler he definitely took off earlier, but the ratio between the attempts in each game wasn't that large. In the balanced game he took off 5 times for 75 yards, and in the scrambling game he took off 8 times for 82 yards. Also--in the balanced game, the QB ran around in the pocket more often before throwing.

Where I see the biggest difference is that balanced QB's like Stanford's now run more often. Even though slightly unrealistic, I enjoy the challenge.

Worth noting as well is that slider tweaks to the human pass rush and CPU pass block make the CPU QB take off more often.

There definitely is an issue here that needs to be addressed. Personally I am not experiencing a gamebreaking difference on default Heisman--maybe it is more pronounced on AA and Varsity? Also, what slider tweaks have you guys made that are seeing the issue? The more information we can give the better at this point.

I will reach out to my contacts and see if I can get an answer.

[MrRudy]

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I played two games with my awesome tweaked sliders. They're based off of KK's. Both games I played against Michigan. In one Denard was a "scrambler" and one was with him as a "balanced" QB.

In the "balanced" game against a lesser opponent. At halftime Robinson was 6/10 for 132 yards. 2 TDs. 2 carries for 0 yards.

In the "scrambler" game against UT. At halftime Robinson was 9/17 for 129 yards. 3 TDs 2 INT. 8 carries for 110 yards! 1 TD long of 71!

It was night and day for me. All of a sudden realism was PRESENT.

I took a break from NCAA and the boards for the about 24 hours. I come back and there is a thread with what seems like the NCAA Football 12 version of the Ebola virus. It's spreading fast, the fear is rampant and it seems that nobody from EA has any assurances. Eek.

From reading through, these stats tell the whole picture.

[ezio]

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What difficulty are you guys playing on?

I'm going to be perfectly honest, so don't kill me here, but I am not seeing that big of a difference on default Heisman. Running a test with Michigan's QB I found him to still scramble when the opportunity presented itself even when being considered a balanced QB. Now as a scrambler he definitely took off earlier, but the ratio between the attempts in each game wasn't that large. In the balanced game he took off 5 times for 75 yards, and in the scrambling game he took off 8 times for 82 yards. Also--in the balanced game, the QB ran around in the pocket more often before throwing.

Where I see the biggest difference is that balanced QB's like Stanford's now run more often. Even though slightly unrealistic, I enjoy the challenge.

Worth noting as well is that slider tweaks to the human pass rush and CPU pass block make the CPU QB take off more often.

There definitely is an issue here that needs to be addressed. Personally I am not experiencing a gamebreaking difference on default Heisman--maybe it is more pronounced on AA and Varsity? Also, what slider tweaks have you guys made that are seeing the issue? The more information we can give the better at this point.

I will reach out to my contacts and see if I can get an answer.

I am playing on default Varisty and noticed the difference.

[dkrause1971]

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Shouldn't this be put on the roster page so those guys are wasting their hard earned time?

I don't think anyone knows if they are wasting their time yet.

[ezio]

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I really think this particular issue is something they wouldn't test. Ea doesn't name rosters for obvious reasons, so this bug wouldn't be one that they would find during the testing phase. Though now that i think about it i think this issue has been present in all the past NCAA games as well, but since there was no logic for the CPU to scramble we never noticed. I do hae some hope this can/will be fixed because besides this i think the named rosters cause the big freezing issue on the 360 as well so they're really going to have to look into the roster database and see whats wonky about it causing this stuff.

I agree. I was thinking the same thing. I don't think they would have ever seen this because they probably just used the default rosters.

[Bumble14]

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Not to get off topic but this issue could be completely be resolved by EA implementing a slider specifically for QB scrambling....just saying

[ezio]

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Very telling.

It will be interesting to see if this problem is the roster database or just a coding problem between the database and the playing module. Since the edit screen does list it correctly, and the roster page doesn't I am not sure which it is. It would make more sense if they were both incorrect if strictly a database issue. If its a database issue, i bet the rosters will need to be redone to have the tendencies work correctly.

I wonder if it is just the database if they can change something in a tuner. I really don't see how they could though but I could be wrong since I think there may some code tied into it somewhere. I really think it is going to have to be a patch but we will see.

For now, I am going to go with just numbers or maybe auto-name them since that doesn't seem to be a problem either.

[KINGLAX25]

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I agree. I was thinking the same thing. I don't think they would have ever seen this because they probably just used the default rosters.

I disagree. Especially this years version. They gave us the tools to edit rosters because the game was broken last year due to the incoming recruits ratings. i couldnt get a decent K or P to save my life. Broke the game for me. Now this year its this. I didnt pay 60 bucks to be a beta tester for those guys. Lets see if on Heisman if it effect players performance or not..........

[dkrause1971]

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I wonder if it is just the database if they can change something in a tuner. I really don't see how they could though but I could be wrong since I think there may some code tied into it somewhere. I really think it is going to have to be a patch but we will see.

For now, I am going to go with just numbers or maybe auto-name them since that doesn't seem to be a problem either.

I guess its possible to sneak some code into a tuner but it would have to be very small. It would most likely be a patch like you stated if code. If its 100% just the roster database. They could release a corrected roster like they did in 2010. Of course then the rosters would have to be renamed.

[makaveli_Reborn]

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I agree. I was thinking the same thing. I don't think they would have ever seen this because they probably just used the default rosters.

But doesn't the fact that they go to so much effort to make the rosters accurate show that they understand that the vast majority of players are inclined to name their rosters in pursuit of accuracy?

What is rostershare if not an acknowledgement from EA that people want named rosters?

Just because they don't name the rosters themselves doesn't mean they don't test a feature that nearly every player uses. Or maybe it does mean they don't test it, but it shouldn't.

[Dbrentonbuck]

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This is what makes me sick about EA and I am not one to bash a company just for the sake of bashing. I am not an EA ***** and I buy a LOT of their games and am generally pleased with them. However, it really bothers me that before the game comes out they are all over the community answering questions, listening to feedback, and interacting. I feel like once I pay for the game, they disappear. I mean, an issue like this shouldn't get to 30+ pages without someone from EA popping in here to say "We are looking in to it now and I will let you guys know what we find".

[Bootzilla]

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Not to get off topic but this issue could be completely be resolved by EA implementing a slider specifically for QB scrambling....just saying

It affects other positions as well.......just saying.

[ezio]

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But doesn't the fact that they go to so much effort to make the rosters accurate show that they understand that the vast majority of players are inclined to name their rosters in pursuit of accuracy?

What is rostershare if not an acknowledgement from EA that people want named rosters?

Just because they don't name the rosters themselves doesn't mean they don't test a feature that nearly every player uses. Or maybe it does mean they don't test it, but it shouldn't.

I disagree. Especially this years version. They gave us the tools to edit rosters because the game was broken last year due to the incoming recruits ratings. i couldnt get a decent K or P to save my life. Broke the game for me. Now this year its this. I didnt pay 60 bucks to be a beta tester for those guys. Lets see if on Heisman if it effect players performance or not..........

Those are good points but we don't know when they put in the ability to edit players since it was part of the patch and how much time they tested it. Since it was something they didn't think they could do at first.