NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

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  • Gotmadskillzson
    Live your life
    • Apr 2008
    • 23434

    #331
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

    Originally posted by Bumble14
    Not to get off topic but this issue could be completely be resolved by EA implementing a slider specifically for QB scrambling....just saying
    That's been my idea for the past 5 years. I am going to trademark it

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    • Redacted01
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2007
      • 10316

      #332
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

      Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
      That's been my idea for the past 5 years. I am going to trademark it
      But then wouldn't we also need sliders to go from a more finesse back to power back? Rushing lineman to coverage lineman?

      I think there are enough of us here who have/do programming and we sure all know how to test games. Who wants to make a video game?

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      • drlw322
        MVP
        • Jun 2007
        • 1424

        #333
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

        Originally posted by dochalladay32
        Yea, one of them probably turned on their computer this morning, saw an e-mail pop up. *jaw drops* "Our lawsuit preventing secret is out!!! Oh no..."



        We talked about this pages upon pages ago. Someone used strength ratings to switch players back and it appears to work... but it was still a little fishy, and not worth the effort to flip every single tendency that was reversed.
        Did some simming with the named roster without tendency change it was alot better sim running stats for QBs then the tendency change roster.

        I honestly think the simming engine gathers the sim stats from their overall attribute rather than tendency. With the tendency change roster I had to lower some of their truck stick, elusiveness ability, and break tackle rating to prevent from hiking the strength rating too high.

        I think that is why the non tendency change roster had better sim stats

        No tendency change results








        With tendency change roster







        Last edited by drlw322; 07-21-2011, 01:10 PM.
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        • aarontab
          Rookie
          • Mar 2011
          • 468

          #334
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

          Originally posted by dochalladay32
          But then wouldn't we also need sliders to go from a more finesse back to power back? Rushing lineman to coverage lineman?

          I think there are enough of us here who have/do programming and we sure all know how to test games. Who wants to make a video game?
          100% true. That's why i just play the game as is, not because i'm 100% satisfied or anything like that, i just would prefer not to have to do all the legwork to have it be realistic. So if i can throw 4 vert bombs, i'm good. If the opposing offense only gets 30 yards total rushing, i'm good. I have a real job and real responsibilities, can't be bothered to do somebody else's job for them.

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          • Redacted01
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2007
            • 10316

            #335
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

            So in the long run, you say that sim stats aren't affected? Trying to figure out why my results looked so poor last night.

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            • shnuskis
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 1172

              #336
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

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              </td> <td style="background-image: url('/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif');width:100%;height:1px;" width="100%"> Not to get off topic but this issue could be completely be resolved by EA implementing a slider specifically for QB scrambling....just saying
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              So how does this help with this problem? Call me stupid but I thought the problem was switching player tendencies. Not the actual amount of times a qb scrambles. Adjusting a slider so Robinson gets 200 carries and 1,000 yards is great. But that doesn't do much good when Luck is getting as many carries as Robinson because he has been changed to a scrambler.

              The scrambling seems fine to me finally. Its who's doing it now.
              When rookie Randall Cobb was told by this U.S. Marine that he was a big fan of the wide receiver, Cobb said, “I think I’m a bigger fan of yours.”

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              • Gotmadskillzson
                Live your life
                • Apr 2008
                • 23434

                #337
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                No doubt NCAA series needs more sliders, been saying this for years. I mean Madden has more sliders then NCAA and they in the same building.

                Madden has the following sliders that NCAA don't have:

                Pass reaction
                Run reaction
                Block Shedding
                Break Tackle
                Injury
                Fumble

                Then Madden has 4 ratings that NCAA don't have

                Short accuracy
                Medium accuracy
                Deep accuracy
                Throw on the Run

                And now this year Madden also added

                Player Traits
                Dynamic Player Performance

                To me it is looking like they going back to Madden get stuff and NCAA get stuff years later, instead of at the same time.

                I mean if we just had those sliders Madden has, it would go a long way in making NCAA better.

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                • drlw322
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1424

                  #338
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                  Originally posted by dochalladay32
                  So in the long run, you say that sim stats aren't affected? Trying to figure out why my results looked so poor last night.
                  It seems like it. I was surprise that the tendency change roster did not produce better sim numbers.

                  as you can tell from the photos the lower stats has the tendency there in the menu
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                  • Redacted01
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 10316

                    #339
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                    Yea, the reaction ones would do wonders. Might even be able to eliminate some of the psychic db's because turn it down enough, they don't react to the pass as well and you finally get an edge on them.

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                    • Redacted01
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 10316

                      #340
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                      Originally posted by drlw322
                      It seems like it. I was surprise that the tendency change roster did not produce better sim numbers.

                      as you can tell from the photos the lower stats has the tendency there in the menu
                      So it seems simming uses actual ratings; playing, that label has power. Because although it says balanced, all his ratings = scrambler. It even says it in the freakin edit menu. Hmmm, I'll stick to #XX for now. Not as much fun, but I'm mainly testing sliders. All my dynasty sims are more for to see if my historical setups are feasible. Doesn't matter who is good or bad as much.

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                      • Gotmadskillzson
                        Live your life
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 23434

                        #341
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                        Originally posted by shnuskis
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                        </TD> <TD style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif); WIDTH: 100%; HEIGHT: 1px" width="100%"> Not to get off topic but this issue could be completely be resolved by EA implementing a slider specifically for QB scrambling....just saying

                        </TD></TR></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

                        So how does this help with this problem? Call me stupid but I thought the problem was switching player tendencies. Not the actual amount of times a qb scrambles. Adjusting a slider so Robinson gets 200 carries and 1,000 yards is great. But that doesn't do much good when Luck is getting as many carries as Robinson because he has been changed to a scrambler.

                        The scrambling seems fine to me finally. Its who's doing it now.
                        IMO, this stuff would be better controlled if they simply had a Scramble rating. The higher it was, the more that QB scrambled.

                        But then again, they would have to make sure all their ratings worked ALL the time. For example we have had the return rating for a few years now. But it really doesn't do anything.

                        99 return rated player is still more likely to return for 15 yards ONLY as a 40 return rated player. And it shouldn't be that way.

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                        • shnuskis
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1172

                          #342
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                          Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                          IMO, this stuff would be better controlled if they simply had a Scramble rating. The higher it was, the more that QB scrambled.
                          Completely agree.
                          When rookie Randall Cobb was told by this U.S. Marine that he was a big fan of the wide receiver, Cobb said, “I think I’m a bigger fan of yours.”

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                          • BaylorBearBryant
                            Sic 'em Bears!
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 1536

                            #343
                            Originally posted by wsumichigan
                            i also opened up a new thread on EA's website...just wanna dee how long it takes for them to take it down because right after they take it down...i'll be posting it right back up
                            Please don't post any more threads on EA's forums.

                            Just use the one that's already posted.

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                            • Redacted01
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 10316

                              #344
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                              Originally posted by BaylorBearBryant
                              Please don't post any more threads on EA's forums.

                              Just use the one that's already posted.

                              http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/7441733.page
                              Probably why they keep deleting them. There is one already one the topic... from a week ago and it is probably their reasoning. They are looking into it, though, or at least that is the word. Meanwhile, time for me to do some programming of my own. I. HATE. UPWIND. SCHEMES.

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                              • MattUM2
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 264

                                #345
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                                Originally posted by dochalladay32
                                So in the long run, you say that sim stats aren't affected? Trying to figure out why my results looked so poor last night.
                                Sim stats are affected.

                                I didnt have 1 QB run over 500 yards in my sim results.

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