NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

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  • Bumble14
    Producer - EA Sports
    • Dec 2004
    • 808

    #346
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

    So just for clarification, this issue has to do with scrambling and not designed QB runs correct? Trying to learn as much as possible about it to pass on.

    Below is pretty much default Heisman with named rosters--no issue with the QB taking off on designed plays:

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    • mavfan21
      MVP
      • Jul 2007
      • 1842

      #347
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

      I have found it's easy to get a QB back to their proper tendency. I dropped Luck's speed/acc/agil by about 1-2 points each and he went back to Pocket. Might have increased THA by 1-2 as well, I forgot.

      Got Robinson back to Scrambler by dropping THA by 3-4 points (which I think is needed anyway!).

      The tough ones to correct at HB/WR and Safeties.
      Don't look back too long and don't look too far ahead.

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      • MattUM2
        Rookie
        • Jul 2011
        • 264

        #348
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

        Originally posted by mavfan21
        I have found it's easy to get a QB back to their proper tendency. I dropped Luck's speed/acc/agil by about 1-2 points each and he went back to Pocket. Might have increased THA by 1-2 as well, I forgot.

        Got Robinson back to Scrambler by dropping THA by 3-4 points (which I think is needed anyway!).

        The tough ones to correct at HB/WR and Safeties.
        I have Denard at 78 THA and heis still at balanced QB.

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        • jcern23
          Banned
          • Apr 2007
          • 636

          #349
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

          Couple of questions if anybody can answer doesn't a patch take at least a couple weeks to come out? ANd the big question is if they patch this roster issue is buckeye and gators roster still going to be messed up since it is the old version and they will have basically wasted hours of their lives for us to all have to name them again?

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          • drlw322
            MVP
            • Jun 2007
            • 1424

            #350
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

            Originally posted by Bumble14
            So just for clarification, this issue has to do with scrambling and not designed QB runs correct? Trying to learn as much as possible about it to pass on.

            Below is pretty much default Heisman with named rosters--no issue with the QB taking off on designed plays:

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            <embed src="http://cdn.www.easports.com/static/768192/flash/mdMediaPlugin/mediaplayer.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="height=360&width=640&file=http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2011/ncaa12/9139/512A0001_0_FLV_VIDEO_isg.flv&link=http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/81961229&linkfromdisplay=true&linktarget=_top&imag e=" height="360" width="640"></object>EA Sports: NCAA Football 12 Video
            I've testing this problem for the last 24 hrs. They will still keep the ball on design run at times but not as aggressive doing so without the tendency at scramble QB.

            As far as scramble from the pocket i believe is the main problem

            this is darron thomas at balance tendency before we noticed the tendency change, still seem to keep the ball during design read play

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            Last edited by drlw322; 07-21-2011, 12:44 PM.
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            • BaylorBearBryant
              Sic 'em Bears!
              • Jun 2004
              • 1536

              #351
              Originally posted by Bumble14
              So just for clarification, this issue has to do with scrambling and not designed QB runs correct? Trying to learn as much as possible about it to pass on.

              Below is pretty much default Heisman with named rosters--no issue with the QB taking off on designed plays:

              EA Sports: NCAA Football 12 Video
              This is most evident when a QB should be SCRAMBLING, but there's no telling if it isn't affecting designed runs. It's possible the CPU AI isn't calling as many designed runs because they don't have a "scrambler" at QB anymore.

              The problem comes to light when you edit a player. For some reason, certain builds of players switch their "player tendency" for no reason. For example, QB #16 of Michigan, is set as a "scrambler" on the default rosters. The moment you begin to edit any of his qualities, i.e. attributes, appearance, name, etc. he changes to a "balanced" quarterback once you exit the player editor screen.

              Unfortunately, this issue isn't related just to quarterbacks. It seems that two of the player tendencies at most position are flopped. Noticeably, pocket passers and power backs don't have a problem.
              Last edited by BaylorBearBryant; 07-21-2011, 12:48 PM.




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              • Redacted01
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2007
                • 10316

                #352
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                Originally posted by Bumble14
                So just for clarification, this issue has to do with scrambling and not designed QB runs correct? Trying to learn as much as possible about it to pass on.

                Below is pretty much default Heisman with named rosters--no issue with the QB taking off on designed plays:

                <object height="360" width="640">

                <embed src="http://cdn.www.easports.com/static/768192/flash/mdMediaPlugin/mediaplayer.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="height=360&width=640&file=http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2011/ncaa12/9139/512A0001_0_FLV_VIDEO_isg.flv&link=http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/81961229&linkfromdisplay=true&linktarget=_top&imag e=" height="360" width="640"></object>EA Sports: NCAA Football 12 Video
                Now go play against Stanford and watch Luck tear you up on the ground. There in lies the problem.

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                • JayD
                  All Star
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 5457

                  #353
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                  I believe the problem is within the pocket. Scrambling QB's will try to force passes or throw the ball out of bounds even if he has a wide open lane to run.

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                  • BaylorBearBryant
                    Sic 'em Bears!
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 1536

                    #354
                    Originally posted by dochalladay32
                    Now go play against Stanford and watch Luck tear you up on the ground. There in lies the problem.
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                    • northface28
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 762

                      #355
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                      Originally posted by Bumble14
                      So just for clarification, this issue has to do with scrambling and not designed QB runs correct? Trying to learn as much as possible about it to pass on.

                      Below is pretty much default Heisman with named rosters--no issue with the QB taking off on designed plays:

                      <img style="visibility:hidden;width:0px;height:0px;" border=0 width=0 height=0 src="http://c.gigcount.com/wildfire/IMP/CXNID=2000002.0NXC/bT*xJmx*PTEzMTEyNjk5MDgxOTImcHQ9MTMxMTI2OTkwOTYwMS ZwPTk1MDcxJmQ9Jmc9MSZvPTZhNjg*YmJlZWQyZDRhMzE4ZjYw/N2RhN2FjZWEwMzY*Jm9mPTA=.gif" /><object width="640" height="360"><param name="wmode" value="transparent" valuetype="data" /><param name="movie" value="http://cdn.www.easports.com/static/768192/flash/mdMediaPlugin/mediaplayer.swf?file=http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2011/ncaa12/9139/512A0001_0_FLV_VIDEO_isg.flv&link=http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/81961229&linkfromdisplay=true&linktarget=_top&imag e=" valuetype="data" /><embed src="http://cdn.www.easports.com/static/768192/flash/mdMediaPlugin/mediaplayer.swf" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="640" height="360" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="height=360&width=640&file=http://cdn.content.easports.com/media2011/ncaa12/9139/512A0001_0_FLV_VIDEO_isg.flv&link=http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/81961229&linkfromdisplay=true&linktarget=_top&imag e="></embed></object><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"><a href="http://www.easports.com/" target="_top" shape="rect">EA Sports</a>: <a href="http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/81961229" target="_top" shape="rect">NCAA Football 12 Video</a></div>
                      Correct, no QB scrambles, would be scramblers just stand there. Pocket passers now take off.

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                      • Redacted01
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 10316

                        #356
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                        Originally posted by BaylorBearBryant
                        Andrew Luck a.ka. Tim Tebow
                        I told someone before, go watch Michigan vs. Stanford play in a cpu only game and see John Elway vs. Warren Moon. It's like a blast from the past!

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                        • BaylorBearBryant
                          Sic 'em Bears!
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 1536

                          #357
                          Originally posted by northface28
                          Correct, no QB scrambles, would be scramblers just stand there. Pocket passers now take off.
                          Pocket passage are exempt, it's the "balanced" QB's that were transformed into "scramblers" that morph in to Vick.




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                          • drlw322
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 1424

                            #358
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                            Originally posted by dochalladay32
                            Now go play against Stanford and watch Luck tear you up on the ground. There in lies the problem.
                            yup exactly. It has to do with running from the pocket off a pass play rather then design read option play.

                            don't if it effect CPU call tendency
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                            • Gotmadskillzson
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                              • Apr 2008
                              • 23442

                              #359
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                              Yes the main issue is SCRAMBLING when it comes to the QB. But then there are other issues as well since other position tendancies are also changed.

                              Where as heavy hitters turn into coverage guys. So therefore you see way more tips and interceptions on named rosters then non named rosters, especially the Linebackers and safeties.

                              On special teams, on punts, the gunners get down the field very fast on named rosters, not that way on non named rosters. On named rosters players move way slower then what their speed rating say they are.

                              On named rosters players lose a lot of their animations, you see way less big hits, consective tackles, take out the leg tackles.

                              On named rosters the score is also way higer,due to the fact on named rosters their primary scoring come on big plays, very short drives.

                              Non named rosters, the drives are more varied. You have some very long drives missed in with short drives. But over all it tends to be much lower scoring games.

                              On named rosters players don't fatigue as fast as they do on non named rosters. With non named rosters, with long drives, you see a lot of the defense line and offensive players fatigue level get into the red.

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                              • drlw322
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 1424

                                #360
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                                sorry for the double post, just noticed why denard robinson doesn't run at all. For one the glitch prevent him from scramble from a broken down pass play. The other big reason is that the mich coaching profile is a pro-style offense because of their new coach.

                                It's set at 52 to 48 pass aggressive.

                                That's probably why very few read option play is call with mich and I don't think there's that many in their playbook.

                                When I play against oregon and neb, Darron thomas and Taylor martinez would still run on me due to read option play call in their offense
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