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  • Redacted01
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2007
    • 10316

    #361
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

    Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
    Yes the main issue is SCRAMBLING when it comes to the QB. But then there are other issues as well since other position tendancies are also changed.

    Where as heavy hitters turn into coverage guys. So therefore you see way more tips and interceptions on named rosters then non named rosters, especially the Linebackers and safeties.

    On special teams, on punts, the gunners get down the field very fast on named rosters, not that way on non named rosters. On named rosters players move way slower then what their speed rating say they are.

    On named rosters players lose a lot of their animations, you see way less big hits, consective tackles, take out the leg tackles.

    On named rosters the score is also way higer,due to the fact on named rosters their primary scoring come on big plays, very short drives.

    Non named rosters, the drives are more varied. You have some very long drives missed in with short drives. But over all it tends to be much lower scoring games.

    On named rosters players don't fatigue as fast as they do on non named rosters. With non named rosters, with long drives, you see a lot of the defense line and offensive players fatigue level get into the red.
    I can support several of these ideas. Michigan vs. MSU game I played yesterday was 35-13. Prior to that, my scores were more commonly 13-10, 21-0, 21-17. Scoring was more tame.

    Pass deflections are insanely high. I was getting in double digits every game I played with name rosters. The game has always been high in that department, but 2-3x as high as NCAA average last year? A bit much.

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    • Bumble14
      Producer - EA Sports
      • Dec 2004
      • 808

      #362
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

      Guys-

      It would be helpful if you can please put together a chart showing the following for all positions affected by this issue. I would then like to provide this information to EA. This would also help with making community edits if necessary. Thanks.

      Position:
      Default Tendency:
      New Tendency:
      Result:
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      • northface28
        Pro
        • Jul 2009
        • 762

        #363
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

        Originally posted by drlw322
        sorry for the double post, just noticed why denard robinson doesn't run at all. For one the glitch prevent him from scramble from a broken down pass play. The other big reason is that the mich coaching profile is a pro-style offense because of their new coach.

        It's set at 52 to 48 pass aggressive.

        That's probably why very few read option play is call with mich and I don't think there's that many in their playbook.

        When I play against oregon and neb, Darron thomas and Taylor martinez would still run on me due to read option play call in their offense
        Brady Hoke is a pro-style coach I believe.

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        • BaylorBearBryant
          Sic 'em Bears!
          • Jun 2004
          • 1536

          #364
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

          Originally posted by northface28
          Brady Hoke is a pro-style coach I believe.
          That is correct.




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          • Bumble14
            Producer - EA Sports
            • Dec 2004
            • 808

            #365
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

            Also, I think it is critical to provide slider settings--specifically user pass rush, pass d, and CPU pass blocking. All of these influence how much time a QB has in the pocket to take off.
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            • drlw322
              MVP
              • Jun 2007
              • 1424

              #366
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

              Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
              Yes the main issue is SCRAMBLING when it comes to the QB. But then there are other issues as well since other position tendancies are also changed.

              Where as heavy hitters turn into coverage guys. So therefore you see way more tips and interceptions on named rosters then non named rosters, especially the Linebackers and safeties.

              On special teams, on punts, the gunners get down the field very fast on named rosters, not that way on non named rosters. On named rosters players move way slower then what their speed rating say they are.

              On named rosters players lose a lot of their animations, you see way less big hits, consective tackles, take out the leg tackles.

              On named rosters the score is also way higer,due to the fact on named rosters their primary scoring come on big plays, very short drives.

              Non named rosters, the drives are more varied. You have some very long drives missed in with short drives. But over all it tends to be much lower scoring games.

              On named rosters players don't fatigue as fast as they do on non named rosters. With non named rosters, with long drives, you see a lot of the defense line and offensive players fatigue level get into the red.
              Pls don't take this a offensive, I'm truely curious. What sliders are you playing with? Can you play on default all-american and and see if there is a difference, I'm not seeing some of those things.

              But i did noticed that when I used sliders, I was getting less animation so I went back to default sliders after the 1st couple of days.

              I'm getting all these animation with named roster and I'm still getting tackle animation every game that i play that I haven't seen. My CB are still making great plays on the ball.

              edit: i do agree with the tipped pass by LB


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              Last edited by drlw322; 07-21-2011, 01:15 PM.
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              • BaylorBearBryant
                Sic 'em Bears!
                • Jun 2004
                • 1536

                #367
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                Originally posted by Bumble14
                Guys-

                It would be helpful if you can please put together a chart showing the following for all positions affected by this issue. I would then like to provide this information to EA. This would also help with making community edits if necessary. Thanks.

                Position:
                Default Tendency:
                New Tendency:
                Result:
                Well, so far...

                Position: Quarterback
                Default Tendency:
                Scrambler
                New Tendency:
                Balanced
                Result:
                Default scrambling quarterbacks hardly scramble at all.

                Position: Quarterback
                Default Tendency:
                Balanced
                New Tendency:
                Scrambler
                Result:
                Default balanced quarterbacks scramble all the time.

                Position: Running back
                Default Tendency:
                Speed
                New Tendency:
                Balanced
                Result:
                Default speed backs act as balanced backs. They'll attempt power moves too often.

                Position: Running back
                Default Tendency:
                Balanced
                New Tendency:
                Speed
                Result:
                Default balanced backs act as speed backs. They'll never attempt power moves.




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                • aarontab
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 468

                  #368
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                  The reason this is happening is because BY RATING they must be scramblers but EA must manually edit the tendencies to match their real life tendencies. That way they can have a guy who is fast BUT is not going to scramble as much and will still use his arm. Editing makes the player revert back to what his actual ratings dictate. DONE AND DONE.

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                  • drlw322
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1424

                    #369
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                    Originally posted by northface28
                    Brady Hoke is a pro-style coach I believe.
                    that's what i'm saying the read option plays for oregon and neb is still there thats why darron thomas and taylor martinez still run in the game, but once in a scramble element the tendency kicks in. Thats why dennard robinson doesn't run because his tendency doesn't really let him scramble and mich don't really call any read option play with this new style
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                    • northface28
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 762

                      #370
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                      Originally posted by Bumble14
                      Also, I think it is critical to provide slider settings--specifically user pass rush, pass d, and CPU pass blocking. All of these influence how much time a QB has in the pocket to take off.

                      Im on Heisman:

                      User pass rush: 50
                      User pass coverage: 40
                      Cpu pass block: 45

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                      • drlw322
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1424

                        #371
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                        Originally posted by aarontab
                        The reason this is happening is because BY RATING they must be scramblers but EA must manually edit the tendencies to match their real life tendencies. That way they can have a guy who is fast BUT is not going to scramble as much and will still use his arm. Editing makes the player revert back to what his actual ratings dictate. DONE AND DONE.
                        sort of, there is still a bug because the menu tendency doesn't not match the editing screen tendency after that. If what you said was the case then don't should both match after.
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                        • aarontab
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 468

                          #372
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                          Originally posted by drlw322
                          sort of, there is still a bug because the menu tendency doesn't not match the editing screen tendency after that. If what you said was the case then don't should both match after.
                          It's not 100% that it's a bug, it could be more the perception that it's a bug. I'm more inclined to think this is more like (as an example) if in madden you edited peyton manning's face and saved and you couldn't put it back on him if you came back to edit it. Like the devs just switched it to say "hey this guy might have 91 speed, but i wouldn't call him a 'scrambler' because in life he's less likely to run than throw"

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                          • BaylorBearBryant
                            Sic 'em Bears!
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 1536

                            #373
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                            Originally posted by aarontab
                            It's not 100% that it's a bug, it could be more the perception that it's a bug. I'm more inclined to think this is more like (as an example) if in madden you edited peyton manning's face and saved and you couldn't put it back on him if you came back to edit it. Like the devs just switched it to say "hey this guy might have 91 speed, but i wouldn't call him a 'scrambler' because in life he's less likely to run than throw"
                            It's 100% that it's a bug. Read the whole thead.




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                            • TheShizNo1
                              Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 26341

                              #374
                              This may come off the wrong way, but I'm seriously asking.

                              Why should we give detailed information on what's wrong with this game? so not only buy a broken game, but then spend time finding glitches also. Aren't their people paid to do this? Not even that, it's not rocket science, the issues have been laid out in about the last 5 pages.

                              Maybe it's just me. If I get the "well if you want it fixed..." no game should ever be this broken...

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                              • northface28
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 762

                                #375
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Possible Roster Glitch

                                Originally posted by drlw322
                                that's what i'm saying the read option plays for oregon and neb is still there thats why darron thomas and taylor martinez still run in the game, but once in a scramble element the tendency kicks in. Thats why dennard robinson doesn't run because his tendency doesn't really let him scramble and mich don't really call any read option play with this new style
                                I dont think you understand whats going on. We arent talking about designed runs vs scrambles. Big difference. Without names, call 2 man under d, Drob will make his reads and take off if nothing is open. With names, he will sit in the pocket and not run or take a sack against the same defense.

                                How are you not seeing this?

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