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    Fear The Spear
    • Apr 2011
    • 10346

    #721
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

    Originally posted by Phobia
    That 30 dollar trade in towards madden that gamestop is doing is looking better and better now.
    haha while some may go that route, imma stick with NCAA...EA has to get it right at some point, RIGHT?
    Steelers | Seminoles | A's | Rockets | Avalanche | Wildcats, Hoosiers | Liverpool

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    • Redacted01
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2007
      • 10316

      #722
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

      Originally posted by Phobia
      That 30 dollar trade in towards madden that gamestop is doing is looking better and better now.
      Doubt it. I cancelled my pre-order on Amazon because of this. It's the same company making it. It may not be as buggy, but if NCAA takes this much work to get it playing well, and then to have to wait for updates. yea... Not going to do it. Madden has improved but I heard it wasn't that great last year either so I'd much rather save my money. In the long run, NCAA will get better and it will probably be fine.

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      • TheGame8544
        MVP
        • Jul 2003
        • 1656

        #723
        I love this forum. It's so great to come to a place where people want so many of the same things as me and get as disappointed as me when EA screws up again.

        Sure, we have the posters around here that act ad EA apologists or simply blame the consumer for buying the game (ridiculous) but most of the folks around here don't settle for this crap and do everything they can for their voices to be heard.

        I'm right there with you guys. This is complete bull crap. EA should be paying us to be their game testers since the guys they actually pay to do the job are incapable of performing it.

        I thought there was some law against monopolies. Why doesn't that apply in cases like this where one company has complete control and domination of an entire market (video game football fans)?

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        • timmg
          MVP
          • Jun 2003
          • 1383

          #724
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

          are the rosters gonna have to be done all over again

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          • wryly
            Banned
            • Jul 2008
            • 134

            #725
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

            Are you a consumer? Sick of being wronged by EA? Then file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau at this link.

            I have filed my complaint as a 'Problem with Products/Service'. Electronic Arts misled me into believing I would be purchasing a product without several major technical errors. As I've now discovered the product to be seriously flawed and not as advertised, I am requesting a refund or credit.

            Want to make your voice heard? Then do it through the BBB. Otherwise, you'll be mostly ignored.

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            • willIam9387
              Pro
              • Jun 2010
              • 640

              #726
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

              Originally posted by TheGame8544
              I love this forum. It's so great to come to a place where people want so many of the same things as me and get as disappointed as me when EA screws up again.

              Sure, we have the posters around here that act ad EA apologists or simply blame the consumer for buying the game (ridiculous) but most of the folks around here don't settle for this crap and do everything they can for their voices to be heard.

              I'm right there with you guys. This is complete bull crap. EA should be paying us to be their game testers since the guys they actually pay to do the job are incapable of performing it.

              I thought there was some law against monopolies. Why doesn't that apply in cases like this where one company has complete control and domination of an entire market (video game football fans)?
              Does competition inside their own company count with madden lol?...I'm jk and I totally see where you are coming from. Sometimes I do feel like a beta-tester and that's not right. At 60 dollars I buy the game knowing it's not going to be perfect, yet I don't expect there to be major flaws which are the result of a lack of oversight. If it's the case that their football engine is poorly developed, then I would never justify paying that kind of money, but with the gameplay I witnessed from the default roster the football engine works fine and there is potential. It's the inattention to the details which frustrate me because there's no reason this should make it through the development stage as a bug.

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              • SGMRock
                Pro
                • Jul 2009
                • 991

                #727
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                I've been looking at this closer and it seems to me the problem is that the game is set to read certain attributes to determine a players tendancies.

                But they somehow messed up what values its supposed to be checking for what. For instance the rosters were originally setup correctly but then maybe the bug came after. So when you change something on the player its rechecking attributes and going, oh this should a balanced QB not a scrambler, so it changes it when you edit any setting.

                If that is the case this would be any easy fix to make sure the game is reading the correct attributes to make the tendancies. Of course once they fix this in a patch you would have to edit one thing on every player on your roster to get it to recheck the attributes again and assign the correct tendancies.

                Oh yes and if what I just said above is the case that would mean recruits coming out of H.S. would also have the wrong tendancies set as the game would be most likely checking these same attribute catagories for the tendancies. Testing on this will have to be checked though. I would guess editing something on a new recruited player and saving it would show you if they change or stay the same.
                Last edited by SGMRock; 07-22-2011, 12:55 PM.
                Go Lions, Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings, Wolverines!

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                • carolinacrazy
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 32

                  #728
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                  Originally posted by wryly
                  Are you a consumer? Sick of being wronged by EA? Then file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau at this link.

                  I have filed my complaint as a 'Problem with Products/Service'. Electronic Arts misled me into believing I would be purchasing a product without several major technical errors. As I've now discovered the product to be seriously flawed and not as advertised, I am requesting a refund or credit.

                  Want to make your voice heard? Then do it through the BBB. Otherwise, you'll be mostly ignored.
                  Doing this. Start a thread on this man so we can get their attention.

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                  • Redacted01
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 10316

                    #729
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                    Originally posted by SGMRock
                    I've been looking at this closer and it seems to me the problem is that the game is set to read certain attributes to determine a players tendancies.
                    if you go in the edit menu, it does calculate the tendency correctly. It says Denard Robinson is a scrambler based on his ratings. It is once you edit a facemask or something and then save and leave that the roster list has it flipped. It's calculating the tendencies perfectly fine in my eyes. It is being stored some where else incorrectly and that place is being used to influence in game response.

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                    • SGMRock
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 991

                      #730
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                      I just thought of a work around for this, what if you create the team in teambuilder and import it into the game and use that, then you would not be changing anything in the game engine?

                      Anyone tried that? Though we would all have to buy EA's DLC to have a 100 some teambuilder teams to be able to use this :P

                      At least if you wanted though you could import your main teams or main conference teams with real names and tendancies and just let the other teams autoname.

                      Just a thought
                      Go Lions, Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings, Wolverines!

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                      • SGMRock
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 991

                        #731
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                        Originally posted by dochalladay32
                        if you go in the edit menu, it does calculate the tendency correctly. It says Denard Robinson is a scrambler based on his ratings. It is once you edit a facemask or something and then save and leave that the roster list has it flipped. It's calculating the tendencies perfectly fine in my eyes. It is being stored some where else incorrectly and that place is being used to influence in game response.

                        Ok that answers that then. Good info. So somewhere in their programing the attribute setting tendancies are not being converted over properly 1 for 1.
                        Go Lions, Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings, Wolverines!

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                        • mvb34
                          S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 8138

                          #732
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                          Originally posted by carolinacrazy
                          Doing this. Start a thread on this man so we can get their attention.
                          Originally posted by wryly
                          Are you a consumer? Sick of being wronged by EA? Then file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau at this link.

                          I have filed my complaint as a 'Problem with Products/Service'. Electronic Arts misled me into believing I would be purchasing a product without several major technical errors. As I've now discovered the product to be seriously flawed and not as advertised, I am requesting a refund or credit.

                          Want to make your voice heard? Then do it through the BBB. Otherwise, you'll be mostly ignored.
                          While we are at it we need to do this against Microsoft for Windows Vista as well!! Give me a break!!
                          Last edited by mvb34; 07-22-2011, 01:09 PM.
                          http://www.twitch.tv/mikecharles34

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                          • chia51
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 1912

                            #733
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                            Originally posted by dochalladay32
                            if you go in the edit menu, it does calculate the tendency correctly. It says Denard Robinson is a scrambler based on his ratings. It is once you edit a facemask or something and then save and leave that the roster list has it flipped. It's calculating the tendencies perfectly fine in my eyes. It is being stored some where else incorrectly and that place is being used to influence in game response.
                            Correct... I said this I guess a page back or so. But even if you edit his speed a point + its still messes up after saving.
                            Last edited by chia51; 07-22-2011, 01:06 PM.

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                            • PowerofRed25
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 1507

                              #734
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                              It says a lot that in 74 pages over two days, members of this forum have managed to deduce the problem and put forth some pretty reasonable explanations as to why it is happening, how it affects the game and how it might be fixed.

                              Maybe if this kind of dialogue existed during development at EA, we wouldn't keep running into these ridiculous problems. It will never stop amazing me how quickly EA can take a working feature and make it not work over the course of the year. Of course like some of you mentioned, for all we know, it was broken last time.

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                              • mdiggitydawg
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 475

                                #735
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                                Originally posted by wryly
                                Are you a consumer? Sick of being wronged by EA? Then file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau at this link.

                                I have filed my complaint as a 'Problem with Products/Service'. Electronic Arts misled me into believing I would be purchasing a product without several major technical errors. As I've now discovered the product to be seriously flawed and not as advertised, I am requesting a refund or credit.

                                Want to make your voice heard? Then do it through the BBB. Otherwise, you'll be mostly ignored.
                                DONE AS WELL SIR!

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