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  • BigSpleen
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    #61
    Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

    Originally posted by PowerPitcher
    Total ignorance? LOL
    Well sir, your WHOLE ARGUMENT is ignorant, if the Raiders where in fact the team you claim they are, they would have a record that showed it. A few good players, doesn't make a good team, I will be willing to bet you $100 the Raiders don't make the playoffs this year.
    The point is you said the raiders ar a team full f athletes not football players, I asked you to name one besides DHB and you could not........ ignorance yep.

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    • bkrich83
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      #62
      Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

      Originally posted by BigSpleen
      It is fact, sorry, the chiefs rated 10 points higher is baloney. Who ever did these ratings does not have a good knowledge of NFl rosters and are using the last 6-7 years were the raiders struggled instead of what the team is as of right now. The comment about DHB shows this.
      Subjective ratings can not be factual. Hence the reason they are subjective.

      It's your opinion, nothing more nothing less. And your opinion holds no more weight than anyone else's.
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      • BigSpleen
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        #63
        Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

        Originally posted by bkrich83
        Subjective ratings can not be factual. Hence the reason they are subjective.

        It's your opinion, nothing more nothing less. And your opinion holds no more weight than anyone else's.
        except the comment he made about DHB and the raiders shows he really doesnt know the roster at all.

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        • bkrich83
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          #64
          Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

          Originally posted by BigSpleen
          except the comment he made about DHB and the raiders shows he really doesnt know the roster at all.
          In your opinion. Again, that has nothing to do with the fact you seem unable to grasp. these ratings are purely subjective. Again your opinion on NFL talent or roster talent holds no more weight than his or anyone's else.
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          • iBlievN5
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            #65
            Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

            Zach Miller and Seymour are the only "great" players the Raiders have right now. They have plenty of potential at S, LB, RB, and a couple at the WR position but by and large they are not a super talented team. No OL, no QB and just decent to good pieces on defense.
            effin' word surgeon, scalpel, sponge thats perfect.

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            • Outkizast
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              #66
              Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

              I will say this about the Raiders: They are not the same team that was a joke for the last decade. For most of those years, they neglected any attention to the O and D lines. Last year they FINALLY got their heads together and owned the trenches for most of the year on both sides of the ball. I would understand people saying that we shouldn't expect another 8-8 year if the wins seemed like flukes, but when a team is as dominant in the trenches as the Raiders were last year, I don't think it's crazy to think they have the potential for a great season.

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              • BigSpleen
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                #67
                Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

                Originally posted by bkrich83
                In your opinion. Again, that has nothing to do with the fact you seem unable to grasp. these ratings are purely subjective. Again your opinion on NFL talent or roster talent holds no more weight than his or anyone's else.
                well thanks captain obvious, and its my opinion these ratings and the guys who did them are clueless, understand?

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                • BigSpleen
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                  #68
                  Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

                  Originally posted by iBlievN5
                  Zach Miller and Seymour are the only "great" players the Raiders have right now. They have plenty of potential at S, LB, RB, and a couple at the WR position but by and large they are not a super talented team. No OL, no QB and just decent to good pieces on defense.
                  No OLINE? Second in the league in rushing, GTFO.

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                  • bkrich83
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                    #69
                    Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

                    Originally posted by BigSpleen
                    well thanks captain obvious, and its my opinion these ratings and the guys who did them are clueless, understand?
                    Do you even read your own posts.
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                    • Jewelz0376
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                      #70
                      Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

                      Originally posted by iBlievN5
                      Zach Miller and Seymour are the only "great" players the Raiders have right now. They have plenty of potential at S, LB, RB, and a couple at the WR position but by and large they are not a super talented team. No OL, no QB and just decent to good pieces on defense.
                      Raiders have one of the best rushing attacks in the league, one of the best d-lines, one of the best 4-3 slb, the #2 pass defense in the league with 3 of the top corners in the league statistically, and one of the best in terms of special teams (jano, lechler, and ford)...

                      Not saying that the Raiders should be a 90 overall or anything crazy, but there shouldn't be close to a 10 pt difference between the Raiders and Chiefs/SD

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                      • iBlievN5
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                        #71
                        Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

                        Originally posted by BigSpleen
                        No OLINE? Second in the league in rushing, GTFO.
                        Have you seen your RBs and the massive amount of talent they have? Also, OLs have to pass block my friend and there are not many worse at that than the Raiders.
                        effin' word surgeon, scalpel, sponge thats perfect.

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                        • BigSpleen
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                          #72
                          Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

                          Originally posted by iBlievN5
                          Have you seen your RBs and the massive amount of talent they have? Also, OLs have to pass block my friend and there are not many worse at that than the Raiders.
                          HUH? Look at the stats, the raiders were middle of the road last year pass blocking and great at run blocking. and no a RB wont do anything if the line doesnt block well. At times last year the raisers physically dominated other teams. Only barry sanders could still get yardage with no blocking.

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                          • iBlievN5
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                            #73
                            Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

                            Originally posted by BigSpleen
                            HUH? Look at the stats, the raiders were middle of the road last year pass blocking and great at run blocking. and no a RB wont do anything if the line doesnt block well. At times last year the raisers physically dominated other teams. Only barry sanders could still get yardage with no blocking.
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                            • bkrich83
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                              #74
                              Re: Madden NFL 12 Team Ratings - AFC West (ESPN)

                              Originally posted by Jewelz0376
                              Raiders have one of the best rushing attacks in the league, one of the best d-lines, one of the best 4-3 slb, the #2 pass defense in the league with 3 of the top corners in the league statistically, and one of the best in terms of special teams (jano, lechler, and ford)...

                              Not saying that the Raiders should be a 90 overall or anything crazy, but there shouldn't be close to a 10 pt difference between the Raiders and Chiefs/SD
                              I don't think that's an unfair assessment.
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                              • SportsTop
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by BigSpleen
                                Have not lost him yet, we can still sign him..........

                                Anyway back on topic the OP's remarks male me think he knows a lick about football outside a few teams. The Raiders had a bad run the last decade, but things have changed. Raiders woefully low rated and that comment about DHb shows a lack of knowledge about the rest of the roster.
                                I actually see what the author is attempting to convey. The Raiders have talent in more than a few areas but it isn't well balanced talent.

                                By the way, this is a QB driven league and the Raiders don't have anyone above average at that position.
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