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  • fcboiler87
    Pro
    • Jul 2008
    • 592

    #856
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

    Originally posted by playbQy
    Wow... I just spit out coffee and I'm not drinking any. I just started a dynasty with default rosters, now I'm finding out my recruits whom are supposed to be pocket QB's are in fact scramblers in disguise. FML I quit
    Haha... yeah I don't blame you. The thing is, even if you have a scrambler that becomes a balanced QB, he still has the same attributes, i.e., he is still fast. If you are playing with him, it really wouldn't matter. The problem arises in gameplay vs. the CPU where their players who were supposed to be a scrambler are not. I guess if you're just playing offense it's no big deal...

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    • ODogg
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2003
      • 37953

      #857
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

      Originally posted by tonybologna
      I'm thinking otherwise! This may not be an easy fix to use already named rosters. Somebody from EA Sports looks to have messed up on coding this part of the game. I honestly can't believe what I'm reading in regards to this situation.
      I'm not a game programmer but I did take some programming and I believe it definitely would be possible for them to fix this without requiring the roster editors to rename everyone. They simply need to fix the code and then install a process that each time the roster loads it checks the ratings of the player vs. the tendency and ensures it's correct.

      Actually it appears that this is just what the game is doing, it's just doing it wrong. In other words it's checking the rosters during some functions of the game and assigning a tendency based upon settings. The problem is it's re-assigning the tendency wrong when it does so. If EA can fix the validation aspect and ensure it's correct, a patch and loading of any roster and voila, problem should be corrected and no re-naming necessary.

      That's just my theory of it and hopefully that is the case so no re-naming will be required.
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      • ODogg
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2003
        • 37953

        #858
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

        Originally posted by fcboiler87
        Haha... yeah I don't blame you. The thing is, even if you have a scrambler that becomes a balanced QB, he still has the same attributes, i.e., he is still fast. If you are playing with him, it really wouldn't matter. The problem arises in gameplay vs. the CPU where their players who were supposed to be a scrambler are not. I guess if you're just playing offense it's no big deal...
        Yeah the issue only really comes into play when you play the CPU and the way it handles it's players. I'm still enjoying the game, yes the tendencies are not correct for the most part but it's still a fun game to play, just hope the patch is out soon!!
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        • fcboiler87
          Pro
          • Jul 2008
          • 592

          #859
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

          Originally posted by ODogg
          I'm not a game programmer but I did take some programming and I believe it definitely would be possible for them to fix this without requiring the roster editors to rename everyone. They simply need to fix the code and then install a process that each time the roster loads it checks the ratings of the player vs. the tendency and ensures it's correct.

          Actually it appears that this is just what the game is doing, it's just doing it wrong. In other words it's checking the rosters during some functions of the game and assigning a tendency based upon settings. The problem is it's re-assigning the tendency wrong when it does so. If EA can fix the validation aspect and ensure it's correct, a patch and loading of any roster and voila, problem should be corrected and no re-naming necessary.

          That's just my theory of it and hopefully that is the case so no re-naming will be required.
          Well I like your theory and I'm sticking to it. I sure hope that is the case. It's all so frustrating because if all of this were not an issue, we'd all be on here singing praises about the game... or we might not be on here at all because we're all playing the game.

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          • Herky
            Working for the weekend
            • Jun 2004
            • 4715

            #860
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

            Originally posted by ODogg
            I'm not a game programmer but I did take some programming and I believe it definitely would be possible for them to fix this without requiring the roster editors to rename everyone. They simply need to fix the code and then install a process that each time the roster loads it checks the ratings of the player vs. the tendency and ensures it's correct.

            Actually it appears that this is just what the game is doing, it's just doing it wrong. In other words it's checking the rosters during some functions of the game and assigning a tendency based upon settings. The problem is it's re-assigning the tendency wrong when it does so. If EA can fix the validation aspect and ensure it's correct, a patch and loading of any roster and voila, problem should be corrected and no re-naming necessary.

            That's just my theory of it and hopefully that is the case so no re-naming will be required.
            I think they program in C++. If so, wouldn't they be using "if then" statements? I haven't done C++ in over a year but if that is the case it should be a relatively easy fix. Again, I could be way off base here.

            This never seemed to be a problem in the past so I wonder what was done differently. They have to have used the same code for the past few years.
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            • SGMRock
              Pro
              • Jul 2009
              • 991

              #861
              Re: Possible roster glitch

              Originally posted by JTurbo
              So you were saying it only effects BALANCED category positions? Not SPEED or POWER, SCRAMBLER or POCKET PASSER, ect.....?
              Every position just about has 3 tendancies. (not sure if punters and kickers do) The bug is that is flip flops 2 of these, reverses them. The 3rd one stays the same. Example
              QB 3 Tendancies, Balanced, Pocket Passer, Scrambler
              Once you edit them or if you recruit one of these you will get this.
              Scrambler turns into Balanced
              Balanced turns into Scrambler
              Pocket Passer will remain Pocket Passer

              Offensive linemen has 3 types
              Balanced, Pass Blocker, Run Blocker
              Balances and Pass Blocker will swap but Run Blocker will always stay run blocker

              It goes on like that for every position, WR a Possession is the constant the other 2 swap.

              HB the Power HB will stay the same the other 2 will swap.

              It is consistant thats what makes me think a programer swapped a number around and it reversed them
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              • Cdog923
                Rookie
                • Jul 2009
                • 247

                #862
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                It just gets deeper and deeper with this game, doesn't it.

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                • bucknut7
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 965

                  #863
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                  From a PR standpoint, EA is doing a TERRIBLE job. If this were my company, I would offer a public apology, explain what happened, and what they are doing to fix it...and if possible give a time table. Then make the comish pack for ODs and whatever jerseys free to the public. We already paid 65 dollars for a half made game, this is really the least they could do IMO. This is really pathetic, every single part of this game seems to be broken. Its an absolute joke that everytime I boot up make game I hear bens fat *** speaking about watching "Making OF ncaa football 12". Yeah, I would love to see those videos ben. Why don't you show us how your entire team turned a blind eye to all of these problems, or was it just straight negligence? Either way, it looks terrible for you as a company. Fortunately for you, the majority of your cliental is too naive to notice, and the rest are too obsessed with cfb video games.

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                  • ODogg
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 37953

                    #864
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                    Originally posted by Cdog923
                    It just gets deeper and deeper with this game, doesn't it.
                    How deep into the rabbit hole do you want to go my friend?
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                    • aarontab
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 468

                      #865
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                      @SGMRock, that's exactly what i was hoping wouldn't be the case, thanks for posting that. We now definitely see the scope of this and how bad it truly is.

                      Honestly, since there's nothing we can do but wait for the patch, i personally want to say thank you to everybody who took time out of playing the game and your lives in general to figure all this out and document the whole thing. I think the efforts of those of you who found this and proved it have done a huge service to all of us who play this game, even those who don't come to forums period. If what Bumble14 said is true, it might be because of OS that this even gets patched to begin with. It just sucks that there was even a glitch this large that needed fixed at all...

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                      • don flamenco
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 28

                        #866
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                        Well, this all makes sense. I spent some time in coach mode and Kirk Cousins attempted to be all Denard Robinson-y and Denard Robinson acted all Kirk Cousin-y.

                        Gotta love that their hyped new addition coaching carousel is a fiasco as well. Just looked at the coach prestige and almost half the NCAA is an A+ by year 3.

                        It's absolutely disgusting how EA treats those who buy the game. EVERY year there seems to be an absolutely crippling glitch that we find (not them) and they have to respond to. My game also freezes frequently during recruiting (no where else). The fact that they rely on the COMMUNITY for accurate rosters is also an joke. The testing at EA is an abomination.

                        The fact that NCAA football (not the video game) is pretty much crack to me and I allow EA to attempt to satisfy those urges every year for $60 is pretty disgusting. I admit it, I feel like I'm in a abusive relationship with these guys. Each year I think "no way they can get it wrong again, they have channnnggeeed." And then, they poop in my cereal and take my $60 and tell me STFU until the game becomes functional sometime by the time the real season starts and I can stop living vicariously through my video game accomplishments and enjoy the real thing.

                        Unreal. See you guys again for NCAA '13!

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                        • ODogg
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 37953

                          #867
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                          Originally posted by Herky
                          I think they program in C++. If so, wouldn't they be using "if then" statements? I haven't done C++ in over a year but if that is the case it should be a relatively easy fix. Again, I could be way off base here.

                          This never seemed to be a problem in the past so I wonder what was done differently. They have to have used the same code for the past few years.
                          I honestly don't know about C++ or the specifics but I'm just thinking about how the game treats the rosters, what the problem is, what it's doing and looking at it from my experience with programming (although that was about 20 years ago). Perhaps I'm just espousing wishful thinking for the roster community..hope not..

                          I know one thing, if EA makes the roster guys re-do all their hard work they should give them NCAA 13 early by about 2 weeks next year on the down low to make up for that sort of punishment!!
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                          • playbQy
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 15

                            #868
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                            Originally posted by fcboiler87
                            Haha... yeah I don't blame you. The thing is, even if you have a scrambler that becomes a balanced QB, he still has the same attributes, i.e., he is still fast. If you are playing with him, it really wouldn't matter. The problem arises in gameplay vs. the CPU where their players who were supposed to be a scrambler are not. I guess if you're just playing offense it's no big deal...
                            That's my point, I actually look forward to the challenge that the default rosters presents, but now 2-3 years down the line of my dynasty the same bs as the edited rosters. EA needs to fix this asap. It's beyond me these chimps still have jobs.

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                            • SGMRock
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 991

                              #869
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                              Originally posted by playbQy
                              That's my point, I actually look forward to the challenge that the default rosters presents, but now 2-3 years down the line of my dynasty the same bs as the edited rosters. EA needs to fix this asap. It's beyond me these chimps still have jobs.
                              They dont QA these games enough or well enough. I have always said they need to have a larger private limited beta test. Shoot I would beta test this game and other EA Sports games for free and even sign a non disclosure agreement on it. All that just to make the end product we all want to play be better. But they wont do that. They have a few paid QA testers that just dont cut it.

                              I know they test a lot of these builds on the PC to so it should not be hard for them to get builds to QA testers that are not on site. They have to be worried but leaks of course, but of you sign and NDA you can get a nice lawsuit against you if they find out you leaked it.
                              Last edited by SGMRock; 07-22-2011, 07:35 PM.
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                              • Cpterp22
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 939

                                #870
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

                                I have never had the game freeze.. That issue isn't a everyone issue.. The roster bug is

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