NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

[SageWonder]

When are we going to stop buying unfinished, broken games? How many times of receiving a broken product right out of the box is it going to take to start a serious boycott? WE are EA's unpaid QA department, and it's not right... Waiting a month, or longer, for the first official bugfix patch is also unacceptable. I'm sorry if this seems like a "bash EA to make me feel better" post, that's not my intent.

Simply put, every year this Gen, EA has given me a broken product. Before patches became industry standard, EA never had glaring issues such as this. Games were much more complete upon release. I'm just tired of EA shipping a broken game and then promising to fix it later, instead of finding these things before release and fixing them then.

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[jasonw2]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

^^^^This is why I will be waiting for the patch. There is no way I want every recruit, each year, playing to the opposite tendency.

If I knew that recruits kept their tendencies, I would just used numbered rosters for the first few years, no big deal. But as SGMRock pointed out, this roster glitch has far reaching impacts for dynasty mode.

Does this also change for the all the CPU teams in a dynasty? If i'm playing a Michigan dynasty, do the auto-generated purdue recruits change as well? because if only my recruits change, I can live with that.

[SGMRock]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

All of you guys involved in this thread I could use some help testing something else that could be related to this bug. I was reading the Dynasty/RTG Impressions thread this morning and noticed some people talking about stats of their QB's once they got to college.

If anyone has that 5 star QB DLC boost or feels like playing a couple RTG HS seasons through today could you see if you play a Balanced QB what stats you get once you start your first week of college and also try playing in HS as a Scrambling QB and see what stats you get first week of college.

I have a theory that even in RTG if you pick Balanced you might be getting a Scrambling QB and a Scrambling QB might be getting Balanced stats.

I'm going to test MLB because I happen to have bought the LB boost DLC after having tried 2 seasons in HS to get a 5 star LB and only being able to get a 4. :P It was only a $1 anyway. I'm going to try doing a Balanced LB and a Run Stopper one the two that swap on the roster bug and see if its happening with RTG players too. I can just sim through HS as I know I will finish with 5 stars which will probably show the biggest difference in attributes when you get into College.

[jeremym480]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

When are we going to stop buying unfinished, broken games? How many times of receiving a broken product right out of the box is it going to take to start a serious boycott? WE are EA's unpaid QA department, and it's not right... Waiting a month, or longer, for the first official bugfix patch is also unacceptable. I'm sorry if this seems like a "bash EA to make me feel better" post, that's not my intent.

Simply put, every year this Gen, EA has given me a broken product. Before patches became industry standard, EA never had glaring issues such as this. Games were much more complete upon release. I'm just tired of EA shipping a broken game and then promising to fix it later, instead of finding these things before release and fixing them then.

Posted using the power of knowledge.

Using this theory, I'd have to boycott every sports game that I play. Including those made by 2k, SCEA and THQ. No thanks. I'm smart enough to know the score with buying any sports game on release day. 9 times out of 10 there's a bug that requires immediate dev attention but, 9 times out of 10 the bug isn't bad enough for me to not enjoy the game.

[SGMRock]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

Ok so here is what I got for all three types of MLB in RTG. These are all equal 5 star recruits of each type.

Balanced / Run Stopper / Coverage in that order left to right below
Overall 89 / 90 / 90
Speed 82 / 79 / 84
Accel 78 / 77 / 79
Agility 74 / 73 / 76
Aware 77 / 77 / 78
Tackle 87 / 89 / 86
Play Rec 87 / 87 / 86
Blck Shd 77 / 77 / 78
Pursuit 83 / 87 / 86
Zone Cov 85 / 82 / 89
Man Cov 82 / 78 / 86
Hit Pow 76 / 85 / 74
Catch 73 / 73 / 74
Strength 87 / 89 / 86
Power Mv 87 / 87 / 86
Fines Mv 73 / 73 / 74
Jumping 76 / 76 / 74
Stamina 83 / 83 / 83
Injury 79 / 79 / 79

So those seem correct based on player type. There are a couple questionable ones there though but nothing major. You would think jumping would be higher on the coverage guy and that block shedding would be higher on the run stopper but mostly they seem right for the player type you picked in RTG.

So some good news on that front.

[LionsFanNJ]

This issue wouldn't come into play in RTG because you're always controlling your player in that mode, and I think it uses default rosters autonamed. Now once the new recruits come in you'll probably see the issue, or not because RTG has its own share of logic bugs.

Anyway I'm sure we'll hear something as soon as EA finds a solution to the issue. People set unrealistic expectations that a solution needs to be found as soon as we come across the bug. I've never once found that to be the case on any game.

sent from parts unknown

[SGMRock]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

I was mostly checking to make sure the stats you got on your player were the right things for the player type you picked is all. Which they seem to be so no worries there. Since they were swaping player types all over everywhere else I thought it was worth a check...

[Chief]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

A friend of mine noticed, about week 13, RB ypc seemed very high. Most backs were averaging between 6-9 ypc compared to the user backs which were averaging 4-5.5.

[amodernist]

in RTG, i created a speed WR. i got five stars in high school. started my college career, and my speed was in the 80s and my catching in the 90s. my guess would be that i turned into a possession WR at this point. so the bug may be affecting this mode as well. that remains to be confirmed. it is still playable, of course.

i agree that there is a lot of EA bashing going on. some of it is annoying. but my main question is this: where is EA in all this? for all i know, they "admitted" there is a roster bug because someone from OS tweeted about it. that may very well be true, but why don't they come out and apologize to the people affected by the bug? i have also seen one of the developers try to help people with freezing issues. but nothing on the rosters, no timetable for a patch, etc. surely, they think it's "damage control" not to come out publicly but i may be doing more harm than good. my two cents.

[roadman]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

in RTG, i created a speed WR. i got five stars in high school. started my college career, and my speed was in the 80s and my catching in the 90s. my guess would be that i turned into a possession WR at this point. so the bug may be affecting this mode as well. that remains to be confirmed. it is still playable, of course.

i agree that there is a lot of EA bashing going on. some of it is annoying. but my main question is this: where is EA in all this? for all i know, they "admitted" there is a roster bug because someone from OS tweeted about it. that may very well be true, but why don't they come out and apologize to the people affected by the bug? i have also seen one of the developers try to help people with freezing issues. but nothing on the rosters, no timetable for a patch, etc. surely, they think it's "damage control" not to come out publicly but i may be doing more harm than good. my two cents.

They don't probably know a time table for the patch. They need to fix most of the bugs and then, it's a two week wait for MS/Sony to approve the patch. Why give out a date when it's out of their hands when they they fix it? Could you imagine if they gave out a specific date and that date passed? You would have another 100's of pages of a thread. If they said something like, 4-6 weeks from now, I wouldn't have an issue with that.

As far as coming into the Lions den(this thread) and offering an apology, I really don't see that happening. As much as you would like to think everyone would treat it here the same way and accept the apology, that won't happen. There will be people still giving shots to the person that came in with the apology. I could be wrong, but on the Madden side, people gave the EA developers and one animation guy shots left and right. The animation guy, Simon, only posted twice.

Maybe when they come out with the patch and announce it, a apology will be forthcoming in a new thread.

Who knows.

[justinwhitaker11]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

Sorry, I know this question has probably already been answered but does this glitch happen with auto named rosters? Im sure it does but jw. Thanks.

[mavfan21]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

Sorry, I know this question has probably already been answered but does this glitch happen with auto named rosters? Im sure it does but jw. Thanks.

Nope. As long as you only auto-rename them and don't go in and edit anything else you'll be fine.

[thelasthurtknee]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

someone mentioned that even if you use numbered rosters this will happen. I didnt read where anyone tried this. They all autonamed.

So my question is. If you start a dynasty with default (numbered rosters) will this happen if anything is edited within the dyasnty? Since all the other roster edits were done outside of dynasty. Or do you have to wait till you get recruits and only edit them? I dont know if anyone has gone to the trouble to try this in multiple years but from the test that SGM used he didnt try it with numbered rosters.

[Kingfish]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

Sorry, I know this question has probably already been answered but does this glitch happen with auto named rosters? Im sure it does but jw. Thanks.

As someone responded earlier, the first batch of rosters, the ones name QB #12, these can be 'auto name generated' and they are fine for the duration of their college careers...HOWEVER, someone noted a few pages back ALL recruits have the potential of switching tendency when they are finalized onto the roster just as the next season starts.

And the way I read it, its from the first recruit ON that this happens, every year! For a offline Dynasty hermit(me), that's a game killer. I am just waiting to see if EA will actually fix this.

[thelasthurtknee]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

As someone responded earlier, the first batch of rosters, the ones name QB #12, these can be 'auto name generated' and they are fine for the duration of their college careers...HOWEVER, someone noted a few pages back ALL recruits have the potential of switching tendency when they are finalized onto the roster just as the next season starts.

And the way I read it, its from the first recruit ON that this happens, every year! For a offline Dynasty hermit(me), that's a game killer. I am just waiting to see if EA will actually fix this.

from what im reading that you can use the autogenerated rosters but you will never be able to edit anything for them to not switch. I wondering if you start with the numbered rosters and edit within dyansty if they will still switch.