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  • Schrades
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    • Nov 2004
    • 85

    #1

    Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

    I always thought since the implementation of tendencies that is was a great idea as it really makes you feel like a coach and adjust to different schemes based on the players or personnel you are facing in a particular week.

    However, going aggressive on almost all is a joke, as the have the negative results far out weigh any positive effects which makes them unusable to me.

    Want to go for the 'big run' well count on 10 fumbles a game.

    Want to have some impact blocks, well count on 10 clipping calls a game

    Want to go for some YAC, well you will be dropping more than you catch.

    I was hoping that having these adjustments would increase the tendency of the negative things to happen, yet I hardly see any increased broken tackles or any positive effect, though the negatives are just rediculous. Balanced and conservative seem to be the only way to go.

    Can anyone else relate?
  • Hoops737
    Rookie
    • Jul 2006
    • 258

    #2
    Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

    YES!

    This is especially true in online play. I keep all my settings on balanced except pass defense and sometimes DLine.

    I often have to put my running game on conservative because on balanced (with the opponents strip on aggressive) I fumble way too much. Catching on aggressive I drop everything.

    Balanced/Conservative is the only way to play a competitive game

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    • Schrades
      Rookie
      • Nov 2004
      • 85

      #3
      Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

      Anyone else notice this?

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      • ODogg
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2003
        • 37953

        #4
        Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

        LOL, I was just reading a thread a couple of days ago about guys complaining just the opposite, that the Aggressive game plan resulted in only positive effects and was bring seriously abused online. I then played a fellow coach from my league in many games to try to determine the effects of various game plans. Turns out it's very well balanced with some rewards (such as more forced fumbles from a defensive aggressive plan) and some punishment (such as more offsides penalties from a defensive aggressive game plan).

        I think people play a game, observe something and draw conclusions from it. You really need to just widen your amount of data you are looking at (games being played) in order to get accurate results of whether or not something is a real issue. I don't think this is an issue.
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        • N51_rob
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          • Jul 2003
          • 14805

          #5
          Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

          I honestly feel like there is little punishment from using an aggressive DL strategy, you can literally "jump the snap" (why is this even still in the game?!?!?!?!) about 9 times for every 1 offsides called on the defense.
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          • Timeetyo
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            • Aug 2002
            • 418

            #6
            Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

            Clueless question for teh day - where do you set this? I've dug around in the menus for my franchise and haven't been able to find these settings (PS3). Only thing close i can find is playcalling settings, but I dont think this is what you are referring to.

            Any help?
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            • ODogg
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              • Feb 2003
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              #7
              Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

              Originally posted by Timeetyo
              Clueless question for teh day - where do you set this? I've dug around in the menus for my franchise and haven't been able to find these settings (PS3). Only thing close i can find is playcalling settings, but I dont think this is what you are referring to.

              Any help?
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              • CornfedChris
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                • Apr 2011
                • 74

                #8
                Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

                Originally posted by Timeetyo
                Clueless question for teh day - where do you set this? I've dug around in the menus for my franchise and haven't been able to find these settings (PS3). Only thing close i can find is playcalling settings, but I dont think this is what you are referring to.

                Any help?
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                • ActLikeYouCrow
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1025

                  #9
                  Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

                  that may be true for offense, but if the defense switches to aggressive strip the animation plays out nearly every tackle without risk of missed tackles or facemasks. ive had numerous examples of me covering the ball and one guy will come in by himself, strip animation, fumble. then the next drive same thing.

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                  • WhoCares?
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 92

                    #10
                    Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

                    Yes its complete Fu^*^* Bu&(^(.

                    Aggresive Dline with an online player leads to back to back to back offsides.

                    Did the same thing last year. If you get caught on offsides you have to change it all the way to conservative to stop the penalties.

                    I remember last year someone ran the no huddle and had back to back to back offsides calls for 50 yards.

                    But hey our economy is run by oligopolies and monopolies so what to you expect.

                    If EA had legitimate competition they would try harder, thats why Fifa is such an awesome game.

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                    • I OU a Beatn
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 16

                      #11
                      Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

                      Originally posted by ActLikeYouCrow
                      that may be true for offense, but if the defense switches to aggressive strip the animation plays out nearly every tackle without risk of missed tackles or facemasks. ive had numerous examples of me covering the ball and one guy will come in by himself, strip animation, fumble. then the next drive same thing.
                      Yep. I actually was able to capture some of it on a game today against some random dude online. I set my strip to aggressive(as I do every game) and this ensued(I REALLY hope EA fixes this):



                      For those of you who don't feel like counting, that's 11 fumbles in one 10 minute half, 5 of which were lost.

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                      • gopher_guy
                        The Kaptain
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 7389

                        #12
                        Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

                        Originally posted by I OU a Beatn
                        Yep. I actually was able to capture some of it on a game today against some random dude online. I set my strip to aggressive(as I do every game) and this ensued(I REALLY hope EA fixes this):



                        For those of you who don't feel like counting, that's 11 fumbles in one 10 minute half, 5 of which were lost.
                        He had to have had his offensive tendencies set to aggressive as well.

                        That has to be just a freak occurrence. I usually set my defensive strip to aggressive (on my dynasty) and probably force 4 fumbles/game.
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                        • I OU a Beatn
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                          • Dec 2007
                          • 16

                          #13
                          Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

                          I've had similar situations happen several times. Out of the 40 online games I've played, I've seen 5+ fumbles in at least 10 of them. I know that during the opening week I was playing against someone who had their strip ball set to aggressive while I had my running on default, and I ended up fumbling 4 times in the first half and then another one in the second half for a total of 5. 2 or 3 of those fumbles were after I switched running to conservative.

                          On average, I force about 3 fumbles a game and considering we're talking only 20 minutes of game play, that's way too high.

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                          • jwb0581
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                            • Mar 2003
                            • 130

                            #14
                            Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

                            Originally posted by I OU a Beatn
                            I've had similar situations happen several times. Out of the 40 online games I've played, I've seen 5+ fumbles in at least 10 of them. I know that during the opening week I was playing against someone who had their strip ball set to aggressive while I had my running on default, and I ended up fumbling 4 times in the first half and then another one in the second half for a total of 5. 2 or 3 of those fumbles were after I switched running to conservative.

                            On average, I force about 3 fumbles a game and considering we're talking only 20 minutes of game play, that's way too high.
                            It's completely out of hand. The fumbles are way too common with strip set to aggressive. I haven't tested out conservative big run to see if that limits the problem or not. Hopefully the patch fixes it. (On a side note, how did you pass for 269 yards in one half? 70 points is real impressive even with 5 fumbles lost by your opponent. )

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                            • ODogg
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 37953

                              #15
                              Re: Aggressive "Adjustments" - Only seeing the negative effect?

                              Lol, this thread is the perfect example of how different people see issues in the game either way. The OP sees no benefit to aggressive settings and the last few posts show no downside to it. It just goes to show no matter which way EA makes things someone will be unhappy. Too funny.
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