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  • Palo20
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    • Dec 2006
    • 3918

    #31
    Originally posted by crenk
    ESPN article rating QB's based off of a new system
    The late Don Smith never claimed his passer-rating formula was perfect.Quite the opposite, in fact."Some people call it a quarterback rating system, but that really is not what it is," Smith told me during a 2002 interview.


    Big Ben not in the top ten

    Top tier: Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Michael Vick, Rodgers and Drew Brees.

    Well above average: Josh Freeman, Eli Manning and Philip Rivers.

    Above average: Ben Roethlisberger, Tony Romo, Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, David Garrard and Kerry Collins.

    Around average: Matt Cassel, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, Colt McCoy, Kyle Orton and Jon Kitna.

    Below average: Shaun Hill, Jason Campbell, Jay Cutler, Matt Hasselbeck, Chad Henne, Donovan McNabb, Sam Bradford and Alex Smith.

    Poor: Derek Anderson, Brett Favre and Jimmy Clausen.
    The new system makes pretty good sense, but the People at Football Outsiders commented that they don't adjust for competition. That would make it better. A QB putting up great numbers against top 10 pass defenses is obviously more impressive.
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    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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      • Dec 2006
      • 17310

      #32
      Re: Madden NFL 12 Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

      Originally posted by belucheez
      Josh Freeman over Big Ben... lolwut?
      Josh Freeman was hands down better than Big Ben last year dude. Freeman was one of the best in the league last year.
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      • bkrich83
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        • Jul 2002
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        #33
        Re: Madden NFL 12 Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

        Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
        Josh Freeman was hands down better than Big Ben last year dude. Freeman was one of the best in the league last year.
        Hands down? How so?
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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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          • Dec 2006
          • 17310

          #34
          Re: Madden NFL 12 Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

          Originally posted by bkrich83
          Hands down? How so?
          Well hands down was a little much, but I think it's pretty clear that he was better. More yards passing and rushing, more touchdowns, 1 more interception, a better TD-INT ratio, sacked fewer times in 4 more games, and only 1 more interception in 4 more games as well, 5 4th quarter combacks last year, and also simply the fact that he played the full season.

          Now Eli having had a better season than Big Ben according to that QBR thing... that one I have a tough time explaining lol
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          • hurricanefootball4
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            • Jul 2008
            • 829

            #35
            Re: Madden NFL 12 Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

            I hope Donny assigned a rating to Brett Favre for this year's Madden, just in case

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            • squadron supreme
              Rookie
              • Sep 2010
              • 97

              #36
              I read that espn article and I'm not buying some of the evaluations. Romo statistically is an above average player but since they are giving more weight to suppossedly clutch plays by quarterbacks he would be below average at best. Cutler behind the worst offensive line in the league with no number one wideout helped get his team to the NFC Championsip yet he is two tiers below Romo and Collins come on now?

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              • RleWorm
                Banned
                • Jul 2011
                • 129

                #37
                Re: Madden NFL 12 Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                Peyton Manning!

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                • belucheez
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 203

                  #38
                  Re: Madden NFL 12 Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                  Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                  Josh Freeman was hands down better than Big Ben last year dude. Freeman was one of the best in the league last year.
                  Last year yeah. But Josh Freeman played 4 more games then Big Ben did. If Ben played all season, he would of done better then Freeman. Plus the fact that that system is just based on last year stats shows it is flawed.

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                  • SpursnSaintsFTW
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 55

                    #39
                    i dont agree with rodgers being a full 2 points ahead of Brees. They both have accomplished the same thing only rodgers has done it more recently. Brees though has had better stats more seasons then rodgers.

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                    • warhorseballa06
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 443

                      #40
                      Rodgers over Brees? get outta here wit dat
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                      • carnalnirvana
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                        • Jan 2007
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                        #41
                        Re: Madden NFL 12 Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                        as much as i hate the saints for beating us in that SB Drew Brees is the third best QB behind manning and brady...
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                        • Jumpman232
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                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1146

                          #42
                          Re: Madden NFL 12 Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                          Tom Brady (95)
                          Peyton Manning (94)
                          Drew Brees (92)
                          Aaron Rodgers (89)
                          Big Ben (88)
                          Mike Vick (87)
                          Philip Rivers (86)
                          Josh Freeman (84)
                          Joe Flacco (82)
                          Matt S. (80)
                          Mark Sanchez (79)
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                          • menglish20
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                            • Jul 2009
                            • 78

                            #43
                            Re: Madden NFL 12 Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                            This list isn't bad.

                            My picks:
                            Rodgers - 99 (his athleticism pushes him over the top)
                            Manning - 98
                            Brady - 96 (he had a big year in a great system, he's elite but don't let stats be the basis of everything)
                            Brees - 93
                            Rivers - 90 (lack of athleticism haha, still an elite arm, don't get me wrong)

                            Rivers is the only one I wouldn't put in my top 5 overall. These guys all have championship caliber arms, but mobility is a factor which is why Rodgers has the higher OVR.

                            And to all the haters, don't complain about the overalls being too high, overall is simply a calculation. EA should fix how OVR is calculated (or remove it, or make it custom! ). EA should NOT alter ratings to get a desired OVR. That's one of the bigger problems with ratings.
                            Last edited by menglish20; 08-02-2011, 01:42 PM.

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                            • BAMProctor
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 23

                              #44
                              Rodgers is over rated, he is like a 93 at most because he has alot of weapons to help him out

                              p.s. vick is better than rodgers and he only has a 91 rating
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                              • BAMProctor
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                                • Dec 2010
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by menglish20
                                This list isn't bad.

                                My picks:
                                Rodgers - 99 (his athleticism pushes him over the top)
                                Manning - 98
                                Brady - 96 (he had a big year in a great system, he's elite but don't let stats be the basis of everything)
                                Brees - 93
                                Rivers - 90 (lack of athleticism haha, still an elite arm, don't get me wrong)

                                Rivers is the only one I wouldn't put in my top 5 overall. These guys all have championship caliber arms, but mobility is a factor which is why Rodgers has the higher OVR.

                                And to all the haters, don't complain about the overalls being too high, overall is simply a calculation. EA should fix how OVR is calculated (or remove it, or make it custom! ). EA should NOT alter ratings to get a desired OVR. That's one of the bigger problems with ratings.
                                Brady and Manning are waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than rodgers so you should give both of them 99s
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