DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

**DolpFan** · 08-02-2011, 03:58 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

I have updated the QBA, you can use 30 for more accurate throws from the QBs. 35 QBs don't always hit their open man, more under throws.

Thanks
DolpFan

**DolpFan** · 08-02-2011, 06:22 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

Here was a good one:

Alabama 0 10 0 7 - 17
Miami(FL) 0 3 0 9 - 12

- Miami got the ball with 1:52 left in the game. Harris tried to scramble for a first down but fumbles on his own 32 YL. Alabama took the ball in on a 8 yard TD run by Lacy to seal it... However Miami struck back with a late TD with :42 left with a 56 yard strike. Miami then recovered the onside kick, took the ball down to the Alabama 28 yard line where they turn the ball over on downs and time ran out..

Stats:
Ala Mia
F.Ds 15 17
T. Off 376 430
Rush 115 75
Pass 261 355
T.Os 2 1
TOP 19:02 20:58
Pens 7/60 7/60
Total Plays 72 88

Alabama: 5 Sacks

Harris (Mia): 18-40, 355 yds, 1 TD
McCarron (Ala): 21-38, 261 yds, 1 TD, 2 Ints

Richardson (Ala): 17 rush, 28 yds (Kinda disapeared in the 2nd half)
Lacy (Ala): 12 rush, 100 yds, 1 TD (41 yard run)

Miller (Mia): 20 rush, 50 yds
Jones (Mia): 13 rush, 13 yds

NOTE: This game was between two A rated teams

DolpFan

**DolpFan** · 08-02-2011, 09:11 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

I tested these sliders in a dynasty and here is results from one of the games:

I moved ND to the Big East and TCU and Houston to the Big 12 and a few others to the MWC and the schedule generator threw out some interesting schedules i.e. Cal opens the season against Fresno St. but in my dynasty they open the season at Maryland. Arizona instead of opening the season against Northern Arizona at home, open at Tulane in my dynasty. I dont think EA made mistakes to the schedules its justwhat the CPU generated. Notre Dame open the season at home against West Virginia but then play the next 5 weeks on the road and then have 4 straight home games.. ahh well..

week 1 Dynasty game:

Cal 0 0 9 7 - 16
Maryland 17 7 7 6 - 37

Cal Mary
FDs 11 15
T. Off 288 431
Rush 18 79
Pass 270 352
T.Os 2 1
Pens 8/73 3/30
TOP 18:52 21:08
Plays 69 72 144

Stats:

Mansion(Cal): 23-38, 270 yds, 2 TDs
O Brian(Mary): 20-33, 352 yds, 3 TDs, 1 int

Meggett(Mary): 23 rush, 80 yds, 1 TD
Sofele(Cal): 14 rush, 46 yds

McCree(Mary): 5 rec, 178 yds, 2 TDs

Maryland: 5 Sacks

NOTES:
- Teams were rated B and B
- I seen about 7 game tracks!! featuring the game O Brian was having, McCree's receiving performance, Maryland's Defense, the Maryland DE that had 3 of the 5 sacks, Cal's troubled Offense and awful 1st half... pretty nice..
- QBA at 30

Arizona at Tulane next..

**LARAMS** · 08-02-2011, 10:09 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

See what happens when you do zero pass coverage. Zero seems to be the new 100

**DolpFan** · 08-02-2011, 10:50 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

(B+) Arizona 3 10 0 14 - 27
(C-) Tulane 7 7 9 0 - 23

When Tulane got a safety to go up 23-13 with a little over 5 minutes in the 3rd quarter, I said "oh-oh"..Tulane went into the 4th quarter with a 10 point lead against a favored pac 12 team.. Arizona could not move the ball on the ground until the 4th quarter.. Arizona had 2 chances in the red zone early in the 4th quarter but instead of kicking FGs they went on 4th down and TODs each time!!

Arizona scored a 56 yd TD pass and the go ahead 36 yd TD with 1:46 to play in the game!! Tulane actually moved the ball to the Ariz. 32 before being picked off by the ILB to seal the game..
This game was crazy to watch.. With 5 minutes to go in the game, your thinking there is no way Arizona is gonna win this game. but a few draws and a great seam route by the TE for the 1st TD and then the GW TD scored on a 36 yd fade to go ahead.. Thats what i said about these slides.. the good teams find ways to win in the end without the plays looking flukish or unreal..

Here is the stats:
Ariz Tul
FDs 24 16
TOff 539 360
Rush 178 96
Pass 361 264
TOs 2 1
Pens 11/95 12/77
Plays 85 67 152
TOP 23:02 16:57

Stats:

Foles(Ariz): 24-44, 361 yds, 2 TDs, 2 ints, 15 rush, 67 yds
Griffin(Tul): 19-35, 264 yds,1 int

Im thinking about changing the FGP back to default and INT to 35 but im averaging 3 TOs a game right now.. I dont want it to go up to 5-6 but we'll see..

DolpFan

**DolpFan** · 08-02-2011, 11:02 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

Originally posted by LARAMS

See what happens when you do zero pass coverage. Zero seems to be the new 100

You're absolutely right rammy!!

The sliders that seem to be inverted are:
- QB Accuracy
- Pass Blocking
- WR Catching
- Run Blocking
- Pass Coverage
- Pass Rush
- Interceptions
- Tackling (It seems hits are harder as the slider is moved more to the right)

These sliders the more you move them to the left the more effective they are. Thats just from messing with them in my opinion..

BTW, i did not touch the Subs and coaching slides.. I left them at default..

Possible Changes:
- Move INT to 35
- Move FGP to default (50) (Its probably why Arizona went on 4th down instead of kicking FGs. Either that or Coach Stoops reminded his guys "THIS IS TULANE DANGIT!!"

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Again, if anyone have any suggestions on how to make a better 10 min game please post your comments and lets try them out!!
ALSO, Im happy with the total plays around 140-160 feels about right although I think real games are more 120-140..
AND any suggestions on how to improve punt and kick returns are GREATLY appreciated

DolpFan

**LARAMS** · 08-03-2011, 12:31 AM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

Ok dolpfan so you are seeing what I'm seeing. Big plays happen but not like they do one pass cov 100! Someone pointed that out in another thread but I forgot who it was. I'm a CPU vs CPU guy and I was thisclose to returning this game until that zero thing was pointed out.

**DolpFan** · 08-03-2011, 01:12 AM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

Originally posted by LARAMS

Ok dolpfan so you are seeing what I'm seeing. Big plays happen but not like they do one pass cov 100! Someone pointed that out in another thread but I forgot who it was. I'm a CPU vs CPU guy and I was thisclose to returning this game until that zero thing was pointed out.

Thats understandable.. look I'm a CPU v. CPU player like you.. The reason I like 10 minute Qs because the games feel like the games you watch on TV. When I play 7-8 minute quarters, if a good team goes down by 10 in the 4th quarter against an average team, the good team starts to make questionable play calls because the CPU feels like it does not have enough time to run their offense. On top of that it seems like the CPU come up with "miraculous" plays to pull off wins. How many times you seen a game that you know was going into overtime only to won by a team scoring on a 90 yard TD pass..I hate that..

Like the Arizona-Tulane game I posted earlier about. I believe because of the 10 minute quarters, Arizona was patient and made the right play calls late in the game. I think 10 min Qs also make fatigue work better. Tulane's defense was basically on the field the entire 4th quarter that game..The offense going 3 and out and playing not to lose but lost anyway. Tulane had 16 first downs in the game. How many of those in the 4th quarter?? zero!!

As far as sliders go, Madden sliders work the same way. The important sliders seem to "tighten up" backwards (50-0) rather than forward (50-100)..

Like these sliders here, use them as a base and just tighten them to your liking.. I did a game earlier with North Texas at Oklahoma and turned it off at halftime because Oklahoma was up 34-0 at the half... They are giving me what I want to see.. Now if North Texas was up 24-21 or something like that at half then the sliders aren't where they supposed to be..
Don't take the game back yet.. you got more testing to do

DolpFan

**LARAMS** · 08-03-2011, 07:25 AM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

You are so right about the miracle plays, especially on 4th down. I use 7-8 minutes but I'll try 10 to see what happens.

**Gatfootball** · 08-03-2011, 01:04 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

Was the Tulane/Arizona game in dynasty mode?

I am at work right now and have been working on slider set also.

I am curious how some of the unmatched 1st week SEC games will play using your sliders, such as Kent State at Alabama.

I like close games too if they realistically should be close.
In my eyes, Arizona should beat Tulane by 20pts at least. If you played this game in in play now mode then thats the problem.

The games will play differently in dynasty.

Also, are you using named rosters, auto named rosters, or unnamed rosters?

These all affect how the cpu vs cpu plays.

**LARAMS** · 08-03-2011, 02:02 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

Auto named rosters and default. What's the difference?

**DolpFan** · 08-03-2011, 02:23 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

Originally posted by Gatfootball

Was the Tulane/Arizona game in dynasty mode?

I am at work right now and have been working on slider set also.

I am curious how some of the unmatched 1st week SEC games will play using your sliders, such as Kent State at Alabama.

I like close games too if they realistically should be close.
In my eyes, Arizona should beat Tulane by 20pts at least. If you played this game in in play now mode then thats the problem.

The games will play differently in dynasty.

Also, are you using named rosters, auto named rosters, or unnamed rosters?

These all affect how the cpu vs cpu plays.

Yep, the Arizona-Tulane game was in the first week of the dynasty "test". I opened a dynasty, moved some teams around and to see what will happen if some team ratings change and schdules. Remember though, if you are using custom conferences, the schedules for some schools changes.

Your right about the Arizona game. I was looking for them to win big too but i don't know maybe because the FGP slider was set to 40, instead of sending out the kicker they went for it. they could have easily scored at least 24 points in that 4th quarter if it wasn't for going for it on 4th down and they were inside the 30 4 times that quarter.

I'm using Gatorbait's rosters (For now)...

If you have a downloaded and saved a roster, it will show up as default.
I used default but when I get home I'll check again but I believe default is the one your saved roster is...

DolpFan

**DolpFan** · 08-03-2011, 02:26 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

Originally posted by LARAMS

Auto named rosters and default. What's the difference?

Default roster is the roster that you downloaded and saved in the roster folder.

DolpFan

**Gatfootball** · 08-03-2011, 02:29 PM

Re: DolpFan's 10 min. Varsity CPU v. CPU sliders.

Ok, with my sliders here were my scores (in dynasty using auto named rosters) I used auto named rosters so that the tendencies are correct.

Kent State at Bama Bama won 45-0
Fla Atl at Fla Fla won 43-3
S.Carolina at ECU S.Carolina won 30-24 (close game, ECU led most of the way)

Stanford at San Jose State Stanford won 52-7

Only stat that was out of line was the rushing yards in the Bama game.

I will post my sliders after a few more test runs.

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