Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

[Chrisksaint]

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Rodgers over Brees? get outta here wit dat

Not really an outlandish statement, not like someone is saying Matt Ryan over Rodgers. From a pure passing standpoint, Brees over Rodger any day. Include the athleticism, Rodgers over Brees(although brees is athletic, he just does all his work in like a 1 foot area to avoid sacks lol)

We just live in a what have you done for me lately world, people remember Rodgers being great last season and Brees being hurt and throwing a bunch of picks. and now apparently people think Vick is worth of a 90 overall when he was great for what was basically half a season or something

As I said in another Drew Brees thread on here, stop looking at the overall and look at the actual ratings indivually as you'll see it accurately portrays them better

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Last year yeah. But Josh Freeman played 4 more games then Big Ben did. If Ben played all season, he would of done better then Freeman. Plus the fact that that system is just based on last year stats shows it is flawed.

Um, that's how stats work. Theyre kept on a year to year basis. And I gigot doubt his numbers would have been better with more games. He was still on pace for less touchdowns and more interceptions

Edit: gigot = highly... stupid iPhone lol

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Rodgers throws the ball as well as anyone and runs much netter than the other top 4. Rodgers deserves every bit of that rating.

Edit: netter = better. Stupid iPhone again.

[jeremym480]

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Rodgers over Brees? get outta here wit dat

You guys don't want me to pull out my "guess which QB these stats belong to" game? Trust me Saints fans who think this way, you don't.

[Chrisksaint]

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You guys don't want me to pull out my "guess which QB these stats belong to" game? Trust me Saints fans who think this way, you don't.

No point to pull out the Big Guns in the Madden forums, I'm fully aware of how good Rodgers is. I was just merely backing up the point that it's not completely out of reach to say Brees>Rodgers, Rodgers had the better year last year but Brees had better years the other years Rodgers was a starter and few years before that. One year shouldn't automatically put Rodgers in front of Brees imo(people think too much about potential in future when it comes to Rodgers I think), but it's splitting hairs at this point when discussing the top QBs. They portray these 2 well enough in this game, Brees being the accurate as can be pocket passer and Rodgers with a little less accuracy but more athletic

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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No point to pull out the Big Guns in the Madden forums, I'm fully aware of how good Rodgers is. I was just merely backing up the point that it's not completely out of reach to say Brees>Rodgers, Rodgers had the better year last year but Brees had better years the other years Rodgers was a starter and few years before that. One year shouldn't automatically put Rodgers in front of Brees imo(people think too much about potential in future when it comes to Rodgers I think), but it's splitting hairs at this point when discussing the top QBs. They portray these 2 well enough in this game, Brees being the accurate as can be pocket passer and Rodgers with a little less accuracy but more athletic

Eh, I think Rodgers was better the past two seasons, but to each their own.

[number1thumbs]

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You guys don't want me to pull out my "guess which QB these stats belong to" game? Trust me Saints fans who think this way, you don't.

one of 2 players ever to pass for 5000 + yards...not Rodgers

highest completion % in the history of the NFL.... not Rodgers

leader of the number 1 offense in the NFL the past 3 out of 5 years...again, not Rodgers

besides the picks, Brees still had a monster season last year all while playing on only one good knee

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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one of 2 players ever to pass for 5000 + yards...not Rodgers

highest completion % in the history of the NFL.... not Rodgers

leader of the number 1 offense in the NFL the past 3 out of 5 years...again, not Rodgers

Brees still had a monster season last year besides the picks while playing on only one good knee

But... not as good as Rodgers last year, and I think Rodgers' numbers were better the year before too.

[BigBoi23]

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Ah yes, the classic bitter argument between fans of players over a difference of a few points in a video game. A time-honored tradition.

[Chrisksaint]

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If we wanna compare stats I guess we go to war lmao, I thin were all in agreement Rodgers had better stats last season

(15 games)Brees '09 363/514(70.6% nfl record) 34TD 11INT 4388yds
(16 games)Rodgers '09 350/541(64.7%) 30 TD 7INT 4434yds

Close but the comp % and more TDs, in 1 less game(Payton sat him in a pointless Carolina game) stand out to me. This is all a pointless arguement as I mentioned before I believe, were just splitting hairs

[number1thumbs]

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But... not as good as Rodgers last year, and I think Rodgers' numbers were better the year before too.

nah, Brees had the better '09 season


taking 50 sacks in a single season is pretty terrible

Rodgers improved on it last year and it showed..i'll concede '10 to Aaron but '09 was definitely all Drew

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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If we wanna compare stats I guess we go to war lmao, I thin were all in agreement Rodgers had better stats last season

(15 games)Brees '09 363/514(70.6% nfl record) 34TD 11INT 4388yds
(16 games)Rodgers '09 350/541(64.7%) 30 TD 7INT 4434yds

Close but the comp % and more TDs, in 1 less game(Payton sat him in a pointless Carolina game) stand out to me. This is all a pointless arguement as I mentioned before I believe, were just splitting hairs

Rodgers '09: 4750 yds 34 TDs 7 INTs

If Brees has his average game from that season for a 16th game, he still ends up with fewer yards and more turnovers.

Edit: Factoring in Rodgers' rushing which is a critical part of his game.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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nah, Brees had the better '09 season


taking 50 sacks in a single season is pretty terrible

Rodgers improved on it last year and it showed..i'll concede '10 to Aaron but '09 was definitely all Drew

I would take more sacks over more turnovers any day, and the fact that Rodgers fumbled the ball the same amount of times as Brees despite taking 30 more sacks is pretty impressive to me.

[Chrisksaint]

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Meh too many sacks can basically be the equivalent of a turnover if you think about it. While Sacks isn't completely his fault I believe that was the year he had a lot of criticism for holding on to the ball too long.

Can we just drop this pointless arguement, both are good, both a phenomenal QBs,etc. Personally I believe both of these guys will be the top 2 QBs this season.

[jeremym480]

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Go back three years (the time in which Rodgers has been a starter) and compare those numbers to Brees. And while you're at it check out Rivers numbers versus Brees' too. Now, I'm not saying that Brees is a bad QB. He's great. What I am saying is that for people to say that it's laughable to put Rodgers or Rivers even, over Brees is pretty ridiculous.