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  • ODogg
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #196
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

    Originally posted by Bumble14
    Come on ODogg--don't you know that NCAA is only good until the day Madden releases? After that date it explodes like one of those Mission Impossible discs. Where have you been?
    LOL, one would think that was the case! I've never understood this way of thinking at all. I hope I don't offend anyone but I've always viewed people that do that whole "just have NCAA until Madden is out" philosophy as not really being that big of football fans because the two sports are very, very different.
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    • rudyjuly2
      Cade Cunningham
      • Aug 2002
      • 14815

      #197
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

      Originally posted by ODogg
      LOL, one would think that was the case! I've never understood this way of thinking at all. I hope I don't offend anyone but I've always viewed people that do that whole "just have NCAA until Madden is out" philosophy as not really being that big of football fans because the two sports are very, very different.
      I don't think that many people do it anyway. One of the EA guys said a couple years ago that the percentage of people that own both Madden and NCAA football is less than 10%. People that prefer the NFL will most likely buy Madden and people that prefer NCAA will get NCAA. A small percent will get and keep both.

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      • jasonw2
        Rookie
        • Jul 2009
        • 124

        #198
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

        Originally posted by rudyjuly2
        They have not said it anywhere nor is it necessary to use a tuning pack when releasing a patch. Patches are far more powerful and larger and can be used to fix almost anything. Tuning files are limited and were only designed by EA to get around having to release and pay for patches through MS and Sony.

        EA started the tuning packs with their NHL series and that's where they are used best. From what I've read they release multiple tuning packs which are independent from each other and users can decide which pack to use based on their gameplay desires. The NCAA team hasn't gotten that sophisticated yet. Last year they seemed to use the tuning patch to address progression issues more than anything.

        I'm not seeing the 4 verts problem that others are seeing. If they tune this, they'll proabably overdue it and make the deep ball impossible. The NHL tuners were awesome, I could pick which set to use. I hope that's the case with NCAA12. Will I have to use the new tuner set when it drops?

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        • ODogg
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2003
          • 37953

          #199
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

          Originally posted by novadolla
          nothing is wrong with how the safeties play in deep zone, you all need to learn how to play defense like the other guy said.
          People - all of these game play issues are subjective. EA really needs to work on the issues that are real and hard errors before even considering subjective issues like "it's too easy to pass deep, it's too hard to run, DBs do that too much, LBs don't do that enough" etc etc.

          Sliders fix or eliminate a lot of these issues. Also, whose to say your opinion that the game needs patched due to a game play issue is the right one? Maybe others like something you dislike. That doesn't mean it's a bug you know.
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          • aarontab
            Rookie
            • Mar 2011
            • 468

            #200
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

            Originally posted by jasonw2
            I'm not seeing the 4 verts problem that others are seeing. If they tune this, they'll proabably overdue it and make the deep ball impossible. The NHL tuners were awesome, I could pick which set to use. I hope that's the case with NCAA12. Will I have to use the new tuner set when it drops?
            This is my thoughts about it, and taking the deep ball away would be worse IMO. The deep ball is a very real part of football, and a lot of deep passes have the WR a good 5 yards behind the DB. I myself just don't see a huge problem with it as long as you don't spam it all game and keep running the same plays..

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            • Knight9299
              Rookie
              • Aug 2010
              • 134

              #201
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

              Originally posted by novadolla
              nothing is wrong with how the safeties play in deep zone, you all need to learn how to play defense like the other guy said.
              Please enlighten me to the intricacies of EA Sports NCAA Football 2012 football play. I'll be waiting.

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              • rudyjuly2
                Cade Cunningham
                • Aug 2002
                • 14815

                #202
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

                Originally posted by ODogg
                Also, whose to say your opinion that the game needs patched due to a game play issue is the right one? Maybe others like something you dislike. That doesn't mean it's a bug you know.
                That's true but at the same time I think people should be able to voice their personal concerns over the issues without being told to shut up because there may or may not be a tuning file that may or may not fix it.

                I think many people think LBs still knock down a few too many balls.

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                • ActLikeYouCrow
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1025

                  #203
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

                  i hope the ability to edit cpu teams means depth charts. it seemed kind of silly that i could edit their players, but not change their depth chart.

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                  • pmini82
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 71

                    #204
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

                    has anyone else noticed that the playclock doesnt stop when running/tackled outta bounds? jus wondering...

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                    • Playmakers
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 15417

                      #205
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

                      Originally posted by novadolla
                      nothing is wrong with how the safeties play in deep zone, you all need to learn how to play defense like the other guy said.
                      Wrong!

                      I think the CPU safeties are terrible in deep zone

                      Not sure what game your playing but you shoudl check again the CPU can be lit up liek a X-Mas tree because of their safety play and reaction in deep zone.

                      So learning how to play defense doesn't help the CPU safeties.....
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                      • khaliib
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 2884

                        #206
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

                        Originally posted by Bumble14
                        What do you guys not understand about the fact that EA is also releasing TUNER UPDATES that will fix these types of issues?

                        Patches are fixing issues that can not be addressed via a game tuner. I'm sure Ben will be back with another blog at some point in the coming weeks discussing the gameplay TUNING issues that will be addressed.

                        Can we please put an end to the replies complaining that this patch did not fix the deep ball, safety logic, or other GAMEPLAY TUNING related issues?
                        I here were your comming from, but you can't blame folks for not trusting that the Tuner will resolve what they are looking for in "Their" game.

                        I applaud the effort, but facts are facts.
                        The Tuner's last year did more harm than good to Gameplay.

                        And seeing that EA "Never" drops a list of the things they will try and Tune, oftentimes the issues you were hoping to have fixed might get the "We didn't have time" affixed to them.

                        So I think it's important for Gamers to continue to note/voice those things that they feel hinder Gameplay, until EA at least releases some info on what they're trying to improve through a Tuner.

                        They say they listen to the community, so if more people note/post on the same issue(s), hopefully it gets moved up on the to-do list.
                        Especially since there is no info on what exactly the tuner will address.



                        **Not directed at you in particular, but in general**
                        But in my eyes, the term "Complaining" can be added with the term "Trolling".
                        Even another OS Staff writer noted that such a term is thrown around here a little to flippant.

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                        • booker21
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4928

                          #207
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

                          Originally posted by Bumble14
                          To everyone talking about the 4 verts and safety issues not being addresses---this is what the Tuner Packs were designed for.

                          Expect a the first tuner around the same time as the patch.
                          How do you know this can be fixed via tuner patches? It was impossible to fix that with Sliders so i think that a patch is necessary for that.

                          i may be wrong though.
                          English, is not my first language.

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                          • SteboSSK
                            Pro
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 821

                            #208
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

                            Good to see they are gonna patch alot of known issues but this still doesnt call for any type of praise or thankfulness. Most of these problems are things that are SUPPOSED to fixed before the game goes gold. Dont act like EA is doing us a favor.

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                            • don flamenco
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 28

                              #209
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

                              First, a slow clap for EA for finally addressing some of the hilarious problems (freezing, roster glitch causing my players to behave like asshats, custom playbooks) this game has been crippled by. Better late than never I suppose.

                              I'm incredibly disappointed nothing is in there about coaching progression. The fact that one of the most hyped new features is broken and nothing is said is upsetting.

                              For the gameplay gripes, I understand that they can be fixed by tuners. So, why haven't we heard anything about a tuning package? The game has been out nearly 3 weeks. The fact that many of us are worried that a tuning package might make an already flawed game even more flawed should say enough about EA and how they handle these sorts of things. I guess it's better they take their time, but, this should have already been ironed out.

                              The "sometime before the end of the month" which could be nearly a month and a half after release is when we will get to play the game that isn't ripe with flaws is disgusting. Especially because this is a repeat from last year. I wish college football didn't grab me by the balls every season making me fall for the hype each year, because the way they release these games is just a comedy of errors each year.

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                              • booker21
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 4928

                                #210
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

                                Originally posted by dagooch5150
                                I think people are coming out in cv2 and 3 and either pressing or alot or showing blitz, the deep ball is fine, guys just need to learn how to play defense.
                                I hate so much this kind of post.

                                Tell the cpu to learn how to play defense then!..

                                I HATE WINNING GAMES BECAUSE I COMPLETE A STREAK POST AND THE S DOESN`T KNOW WHERE THE WR IS.

                                Sorry for the caps but i had to vent my self.
                                English, is not my first language.

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