NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

[DJ]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

I've been saying for years a 2 year dev cycle would be advantageous for us. It just will never happen, but one can dream.

Could they do something like Call of Duty and have 2 teams working on NCAA? That way, each team would be operating on a 2-year cycle but we would still get an annual release.

[bluechip52]

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When you build on to the game to make it better and better every year you stand the chance of letting off just one time and watching it crash. The best example in video game history IMO is Front Page Sports. Us old timers remember this game as the best ever and it got better till one year the company rested and it all crashed. the advances in that game were incredible. if the company never lost steam the games today would be years from there they are now. one to remember that the hardware has not changed in years so it is difficult to write for an "old" system. the next gen systems will bring out the very best and make the games as lifelike as they are today with the antics of players owners and commentator as organic to real life.

[nonnel]

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I wouldn't buy the game. For me, improvements in gameplay, A.I. and mode functionality, even small improvements, are exponentially more important than a bug/glitch free game.

Well, fixing the bugs/glitches would be improvements in gameplay and A.I.

[bkrich83]

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Could they do something like Call of Duty and have 2 teams working on NCAA? That way, each team would be operating on a 2-year cycle but we would still get an annual release.

Then you're doubling your development costs or at least the cost in man hours. I doubt EA is up for that.

[phantomremix]

I am chill with everything, very happy that they got a lot of things i was just going to learn to live with fixed. Question, does anyone else see starting your dynasty in a lower conference and ending the season ranked in the top 15 but still only going to the Go Daddy.com bowl in your first season as a glitch or just something that you deal with knowing it gets better after season 1?

[gamemaster-2005]

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Fixed an issue with Program Stability where the grade would drop from A+ to D+ in one season.


So they fixed the issue were when a coordinator tv games aren't counted?

[northface28]

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Only way it would work is if they go subscription based OR they could charge $119.90 so the 'suits' wouldn't think they were loosing money. Its all about the cash.

Fine by me, id pay $119.99 for a fully functional game. No bugs or glitches? Hell, id pay more.

[leo2k2ndc]

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HuH... The three things that annoy me the worst didn't even get mentioned.... AWWWW Shucks

[Tengo Juego]

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This patch is going to come out at the worst possible time: When Madden comes out, and I don't care anymore.

Also disappointed to see no mention of them removing the blur effect in the menus.

[SECElit3]

Fine by me, id pay $119.99 for a fully functional game. No bugs or glitches? Hell, id pay more.

If you think charging us more for the game would get us a better product, you are living in candy land bud. We would get the same product, at the same time, in the same shape. The issues we see with this game aren't going to be resolved by throwing money at them. There is a thought process here that needs changing. Someone has to come to a realization of the importance of thoroughly testing a product and making sure that the game doesn't get out the door with these types of problems no matter what.

[MaddenFranchise10]

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A 2 year cycle would be great.

However, EA will only allow non-annual releases if the franchise can incorporate DLC addons to supplement the game's revenue. A good example of this is the Battlefield and Mass Effect franchises.


To be honest, I wouldn't even mind a continued adherence to their annual release cycle, if EA would make the investment to overhaul the game engine. If NCAA/Madden were built with a newer physics engine, I could better justify an annual $60 roster/presentation update. Annual updates will never fix a game that's fundamentally flawed.

It's not the devlopers/programmers fault, though. The bean-counters at EA know their games will sell more copies if they include some arbitrary new feature (Mascot Mashup, Band Locations, etc..) instead of fixing the game's actual problems.

But imo, the monopoly has had a harsher effect on the quality of NCAA/Madden than EA's annual release cycle.

[northface28]

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If you think charging us more for the game would get us a better product, you are living in candy land bud. We would get the same product, at the same time, in the same shape. The issues we see with this game aren't going to be resolved by throwing money at them. There is a thought process here that needs changing. Someone has to come to a realization of the importance of thoroughly testing a product and making sure that the game doesn't get out the door with these types of problems no matter what.

Im aware of this, I was speaking under the assumption of 2 yr dev cycles, no bugs/glitches etc. But I agree with what you said.

[Kingfish]

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...Someone has to come to a realization of the importance of thoroughly testing a product and making sure that the game doesn't get out the door with these types of problems no matter what.

I have felt for years now that they don't want to release the 'perfect' game. Like the idea that the pharmaceutical companies don't want a cure for the ills of man, they only want to sell the treatment. If we'd waited until the 21st century to cure Polio, all we would have gotten is a pill to take daily!

But what I mean is a purely functional game would sell one copy and the HAPPY gamer would play it until the game company HAD to add such great features that they could lure the gamer to buy a new copy. Might take a couple of years or so and the companies don't want to do that. The model is better for them to cripple the games and patch one year into the next, year after year. You get a few new features and gimmicks and HOPE(key marketing tool) that the next years version will be better...but it won't live up to what the gamers want either.

I will point to the last version of College Hoops. It was released with bugs some that had been in the system for a couple of years. They released a patch early and still it had bugs and glitches. Then, the word came out that the game was cancelled and BOOM, the 2nd patch seemed to fix every single issue! It was a damn near perfect game!

Its my belief that wouldn't have happened if there was going to be a version the next year. They would have saved that 'patch' for the next title if we would have EVER had that kind of dedication to the game.

The money is there. They don't need to complete the game by the deadline, we will buy it. They don't need to fix the issues in this years game cause we have short attention spans and we will still buy next years game cause we HOPE the game will be better. There isn't money in testing or in a full dedication to fixing ALL the issues(or even the majority)...why? Cause we have proven we will still throw down our money based on nothing but HOPE.

We hope the game will be better...

[DJ]

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Then you're doubling your development costs or at least the cost in man hours. I doubt EA is up for that.

You are probably correct. I was throwing out a scenario that has proven success, although I am only going by sales figures as I don't play FPS games. But, I would think the gameplay must be good to produce the sales figures it does.

[bkrich83]

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Sadly you'll be insulted because you don't join in the hate.

Unfortunately your prediction came true. This scenario continues to play out far too often around here.