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  • Black59Razr
    Pro
    • Jul 2007
    • 561

    #1

    My return to Analog Hitting

    So, I was ready to return TheShow and wait for Madden. I got so sick of zone hitting. Not bashing the game at all; best sports game I have ever played; I just reached my limit. Tried timing hitting and hated that. So I decided to give analog hitting another shot.

    Wow, I love this game again! I am probably going to keep this game all winter.

    This was the first time I tried analog hitting since the patch. I had a hard time with it for the first few games. So I played as the NL allstars against some scrub pitcher; hitting only. After killing him for two games, I decided to try it out for real. The hit variety is different. I wouldn't say there is more variety; its just different. There is a lot more jam shots, duck snorts, and dying quails. Zone hitting was either an out or a rocket for a hit. Home runs are about the same. There seems to be less doubles and line drives. But this is based on only a 4-5 game sample.

    The biggest, rather only, hurdle I had to overcome was pulling back on the analog stick. It was very hard for me to concentrate on the pitcher's release while moving the stick down. I wrote this thread because I think this may be every sim player's problem; that is forced to play on zone hitting; like me. The follow through, analog stick up, is no problem. Pushing up on the analog stick takes just as much concentration as pressing the swing button.

    When I swing at a bad pitch, 90% of the time its because I lost my concentration on the delivery when I was pulling back. 90% of my good swings are because of the opposite; I was able to concentrate on the release; putting the back swing in the back of my mind.

    Analog hitting can become easier that zone hitting, once you have learned how to automatically pull back the stick. I have yet to make this automatic. I have to tell myself to pull back everytime.

    It adds a new element to hitting. You can now feel why a weak hitter muscled out a homerun, or how you got a bloop single with a pitcher. Also, you feel why your #3 hitter popped up a 2-0 fastball down the middle. Man, crushing a homerun feels so smooth! There is was more feel than zone hitting.

    As far as different player's strides, I stride the same with every player and don't see much of a difference. Hanley's long stride and Albert's no stride work with the same analog stick timing.

    The only hitting slider I adjusted is solid hits to 3; which may be why I am seeing less line drives & doubles. The only problem is not being able to influence a groundball or flyball. But I will take that 1 problem over zone or timing any day.
    Last edited by Black59Razr; 08-04-2011, 08:55 PM. Reason: sp
    Originally posted by banned member
    My [RTTS] goals are to improve my bunting and drag bunting. You stupid !@#$, I'm almost leading the league in bombs; !@#$ you!
  • DJ
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2003
    • 17756

    #2
    Re: My return to Analog Hitting

    Do you just push straight up or do you push up and the direction the pitch is headed? That was always my issue; all my swings showed the PCI in the left corner. I'm fine with the upswing by my reactions aren't fast enough to also push to the left or right.
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    • Black59Razr
      Pro
      • Jul 2007
      • 561

      #3
      Re: My return to Analog Hitting

      Originally posted by DJ
      Do you just push straight up or do you push up and the direction the pitch is headed? That was always my issue; all my swings showed the PCI in the left corner. I'm fine with the upswing by my reactions aren't fast enough to also push to the left or right.

      I always attempt to swing straight. I always use contact swing with 2 strikes, so I don't really have an issue trying to cover inside/outside. Moving it left/right is way to hard for me.
      Originally posted by banned member
      My [RTTS] goals are to improve my bunting and drag bunting. You stupid !@#$, I'm almost leading the league in bombs; !@#$ you!

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      • jacory12
        Pro
        • Nov 2008
        • 675

        #4
        Re: My return to Analog Hitting

        Makes me want to give this a shot...what are your settings/sliders?

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        • DJ
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2003
          • 17756

          #5
          Re: My return to Analog Hitting

          Originally posted by Black59Razr
          I always attempt to swing straight. I always use contact swing with 2 strikes, so I don't really have an issue trying to cover inside/outside. Moving it left/right is way to hard for me.
          So just going down and up is providing good results? What difficulty level? I agree that L/R is too tough. My biggest issue in the pas was pulling pitches with left-handed hitters.
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          • Black59Razr
            Pro
            • Jul 2007
            • 561

            #6
            Re: My return to Analog Hitting

            Originally posted by jacory12
            Makes me want to give this a shot...what are your settings/sliders?
            All Star Analog hitting
            All visual indicators off; strike zone, pitch info, everything
            All hitting sliders at 5; except solid hits at 3
            All umpire stuff default

            Originally posted by DJ
            So just going down and up is providing good results? What difficulty level? I agree that L/R is too tough. My biggest issue in the pas was pulling pitches with left-handed hitters.
            Just straight up and down; I have less contact and more power than zone. But I used to play 6 contact, 4 power, 3 solid hits when I was on zone. I could not find any popular analog sliders, so I just started with everything at 5 and solid hits at 3. If I keep slugging high and on basing low, I may go back to contact 6, power 4.

            On another note, when they tweek/improve analog hitting for next year, I don't want to be 2 years behind.
            Originally posted by banned member
            My [RTTS] goals are to improve my bunting and drag bunting. You stupid !@#$, I'm almost leading the league in bombs; !@#$ you!

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            • jacory12
              Pro
              • Nov 2008
              • 675

              #7
              Re: My return to Analog Hitting

              Originally posted by Black59Razr
              All Star Analog hitting
              All visual indicators off; strike zone, pitch info, everything
              All hitting sliders at 5; except solid hits at 3
              All umpire stuff default



              Just straight up and down; I have less contact and more power than zone. But I used to play 6 contact, 4 power, 3 solid hits when I was on zone. I could not find any popular analog sliders, so I just started with everything at 5 and solid hits at 3. If I keep slugging high and on basing low, I may go back to contact 6, power 4.

              On another note, when they tweek/improve analog hitting for next year, I don't want to be 2 years behind.
              Thanks man I'll try them out shortly. And what about your CPU pitching sliders? 5 as well?

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              • Black59Razr
                Pro
                • Jul 2007
                • 561

                #8
                Re: My return to Analog Hitting

                Originally posted by jacory12
                Thanks man I'll try them out shortly. And what about your CPU pitching sliders? 5 as well?
                Reliever stamina at 0; everything else default 5.

                You know, its funny how instinctual checking your swing is. I thought I would have a hard time trying to think about checking my swing, but its so natural; just release it even if you start moving it up. Unlike zone, I almost always knows how the check swing appeal will be called; great feel.
                Originally posted by banned member
                My [RTTS] goals are to improve my bunting and drag bunting. You stupid !@#$, I'm almost leading the league in bombs; !@#$ you!

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                • WatchTheThrone
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 69

                  #9
                  Re: My return to Analog Hitting

                  Originally posted by DJ
                  Do you just push straight up or do you push up and the direction the pitch is headed? That was always my issue; all my swings showed the PCI in the left corner. I'm fine with the upswing by my reactions aren't fast enough to also push to the left or right.
                  According to the tutorial videos, all you have to do is time the pitcher's release point pull back, and push forward. No need to target the analog left/right depending on where the ball is going.

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                  • Dogbarian
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 208

                    #10
                    Re: My return to Analog Hitting

                    Originally posted by WatchTheThrone
                    According to the tutorial videos, all you have to do is time the pitcher's release point pull back, and push forward. No need to target the analog left/right depending on where the ball is going.
                    That's not correct - you do get better results (or at least more solid contact) if you move the stick to the left or right to match where the ball is. An example - if you swing straight up at an outside pitch (with correct timing), you are very likely to get a weak hit to your opposite field. The same swing with moving the stick to meet the ball will give you a stronger hit to the opposite field, or up the middle. I've even pulled outside pitches by meeting them with early swings (note - this is not entirely a *good* thing!).

                    You do not have to worry about the height of the ball coming in, your hitter's stats will govern how well he covers the adjust for height, but you do control inside/outside.

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                    • tofubrain2
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 812

                      #11
                      Re: My return to Analog Hitting

                      never could get comfortable with analog hitting. i thought about 3 weeks in i had the hang of it, but some malfunction in my brain lol has caused me to abandon it completely.

                      i might just dedicate this weekend to practice mode to really get the best out of this game. i'm just stubborn in my ways hahaha

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                      • nemesis04
                        RIP Ty My Buddy
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 13530

                        #12
                        Re: My return to Analog Hitting

                        Originally posted by WatchTheThrone
                        According to the tutorial videos, all you have to do is time the pitcher's release point pull back, and push forward. No need to target the analog left/right depending on where the ball is going.
                        Unfortunately the tutorial is incorrect. On the push up you are supposed to move the analog stick toward the inner, middle or outer third of the plate based on pitch location.
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                        • Black59Razr
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 561

                          #13
                          Re: My return to Analog Hitting

                          Originally posted by nemesis04
                          Unfortunately the tutorial is incorrect. On the push up you are supposed to move the analog stick toward the inner, middle or outer third of the plate based on pitch location.
                          Ya, but you don't need to do it. Its like saying you have to move the PCI up on high pitches, move it down on low pitches, with zone hitting. Ya, it probably would help, but its not really important. I am not great at this game and I play on All-Star, and I do not need to move the analog stick to the sides. I just try to move it straight up, and I get good results.

                          I could see someone sitting on an outside pitch (with less than 2 strikes) if your player's hot/cold zones dictate it, and swing outside every time. But I will never be good enough to react inside/outside/middle while the pitch is in the air; way too hard!

                          By the way, looks like influence flyball/groundball works! I went into practice and induced groundballs on 20 pitches and was able to hit 6 more grounders than flyballs. When induced flyballs on 20 pitches, I was able to hit 10 more flyballs than grounders (did not count line drives or foul tips back). Give this a try in practice mode, but I am pretty sure this does, in fact, work with analog hitting. Damn, this was one of the main reasons I didn't like the idea of analog hitting. I wonder if this was fixed during the last patch.
                          Last edited by Black59Razr; 08-05-2011, 11:17 AM. Reason: sp
                          Originally posted by banned member
                          My [RTTS] goals are to improve my bunting and drag bunting. You stupid !@#$, I'm almost leading the league in bombs; !@#$ you!

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                          • Polo Bandit
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 721

                            #14
                            Re: My return to Analog Hitting

                            I may try it again. I originally gave up because while I was getting 7 or 8 hits a game, I was also striking out 15+ times per game.

                            I've tried a few slider sets with timing hitting and now I'm only getting 3 or 4 hits and still striking out 15+ times per game. When I do make solid contact they are deep fly outs.

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                            • Black59Razr
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 561

                              #15
                              Re: My return to Analog Hitting

                              I stike out much, much less now. When I get locked in on a pitcher, I can pound a pitcher into the dirt. The pitching changes kill me. It takes me an entire at-bat or more to get comfortable with a new pitcher. Overall, I probably get the same amount of hits and runs.

                              Oh ya, another member had a good tip a few months back. Do not pull the analog stick all the way back. All you have to do is slightly move it back. This will give you more time to react to the pitch.
                              Originally posted by banned member
                              My [RTTS] goals are to improve my bunting and drag bunting. You stupid !@#$, I'm almost leading the league in bombs; !@#$ you!

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