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  • ganstakid19
    Rookie
    • Aug 2011
    • 2

    #31
    The different position builds is a great addition!! They shouldve also added were each team had its own set of computer players so theyre all different but you always played with the same set of computers

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    • ganstakid19
      Rookie
      • Aug 2011
      • 2

      #32
      Great addition with the seperate position sets....but they should also make it so the computer AI's you play with when you dont have 6 players should always be the same where each team has its own set of AI's

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      • Trevelyan
        MVP
        • Oct 2003
        • 1047

        #33
        Re: Exclusive NHL 12 Producer Blog: Online Innovations

        I'm just hoping that for a change they store all your player info on their servers rather than saves on your console, so people won't be able to juice and copy legend cards.

        As someone who plays goalie and skater at a high level, I was kinda disappointed that I'll have to get the goalie legend card, but after I thought about it a little bit I like it. It should put more of a skill gap between average and really good goalies.

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        • FBeaule04
          MVP
          • Apr 2005
          • 1119

          #34
          Re: Exclusive NHL 12 Producer Blog: Online Innovations

          Originally posted by Trevelyan
          I'm just hoping that for a change they store all your player info on their servers rather than saves on your console, so people won't be able to juice and copy legend cards.

          As someone who plays goalie and skater at a high level, I was kinda disappointed that I'll have to get the goalie legend card, but after I thought about it a little bit I like it. It should put more of a skill gap between average and really good goalies.
          That's the only thing you can do about that.

          3 years of EASHL and 3 years of various glitching, cheesing, cheating and boosting.

          Want to bet it's going to change in NHL 12? When it happens once, it may be a coincidence, but 3 years in a row? There's cheaters in the dev team of NHL game that left a door open so they can have an advantage over the community.

          If there's nothing in NHL 12, I'll revert my saying, but until then, history prove that it's the case.
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          • Tea_Bag_Frenzy
            Rookie
            • Aug 2011
            • 1

            #35
            Originally posted by FBeaule04
            That's the only thing you can do about that.

            3 years of EASHL and 3 years of various glitching, cheesing, cheating and boosting.

            Want to bet it's going to change in NHL 12? When it happens once, it may be a coincidence, but 3 years in a row? There's cheaters in the dev team of NHL game that left a door open so they can have an advantage over the community.

            If there's nothing in NHL 12, I'll revert my saying, but until then, history prove that it's the case.
            Glitching and cheesing cannot be put into the same category as cheating and boosting.

            As a computer programmer in the business, I know that there will always be exploits such as glitches and what you call 'cheese' unless you eliminate all AI players. This is because you have to give the AI players the ability to score on AI Goalies.

            Creating an algorithm for this to occur without making the Goalie AI vulnerable is nearly impossible. It would be a brilliant achievement to create the AI interactions that simulate 'intelligent' goal scoring rather than pre-scripted goal scoring. It is such a complicated process that it becomes too hard to explain without getting into the real technical weeds of the AI development.

            I agree with you on the boosting and the cheating, which has to go. But to avoid the glitchers the best solution has always been to play 6 vs 6 using human goalies.

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            • anndroo
              Rookie
              • Aug 2011
              • 1

              #36
              CLUB SCOUTING = MORE QUITTING

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              • druez
                R**k**
                • Aug 2003
                • 82

                #37
                I think there should be a game mode where you have to have a human goalie in EASHL.

                Also where is the ability to use members players as your teammates, if they aren't online so you aren't stuck using the terrible EA ones.

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                • stew514
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 103

                  #38
                  Re: Exclusive NHL 12 Producer Blog: Online Innovations

                  Originally posted by mondoguitar
                  Everyone complaining about the "club hopping" rule, find a better team that has 6-8 regular guys so you're never left out and stay on that team. I played with a core group of 4 other guys last year and it was great. I hated club hoppers who joined our team for the playoffs or a few games and then left. At least now there's going to be some accountability and loyalty before simply joining a team without any thought given.

                  I want to see more stable teams that don't fall apart because of club hoppers always looking for something better.
                  The problem I have with your perspective is there are a couple of different scenarios that make the cool down period kind of a slap in the face. First off if you are actively looking for a club, you find one and play a game and realize these guys are a bunch of dick cheese burgers. So you leave, you find another club that's trying people out but oh wait, you have 2 hours and 41 minutes left before you can join a club.

                  Also other people have mentioned that not everyone enjoys the multiple dressing rooms for a competitive advantage, some people enjoy it because they don't have to tell people they can't play because the other line is playing right now.

                  I honestly never viewed club hopping as a big deal, people like to play EASHL rather than deal with the ****sticks that play OTP. I don't understand a system like this at all from EA's point of view, were club hoppers that big a problem that you introduce a system that's going to encourage people not to play your game. If you play for a competitive EASHL club, and you can stomach 3 hours of OTP I give you serious props.

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                  • stew514
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 103

                    #39
                    Re: Exclusive NHL 12 Producer Blog: Online Innovations

                    Also EA can never fully combat cheating until they start punishing the people who exploit the system. Now I'm only referring to juicing, because it's a competitive advantage I don't think you can punish people for say scoring the same goal over and over and over. Even if EA only went as far to ban someone's EA Online Pass for violating the terms of service, I still think it would deter some people from doing it. I would love to see them start banning people's gamertags from using the EA servers for juicing.

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                    • Millennium
                      Franchise Streamer
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 9889

                      #40
                      Originally posted by FBeaule04
                      That's the only thing you can do about that.

                      3 years of EASHL and 3 years of various glitching, cheesing, cheating and boosting.

                      Want to bet it's going to change in NHL 12? When it happens once, it may be a coincidence, but 3 years in a row? There's cheaters in the dev team of NHL game that left a door open so they can have an advantage over the community.

                      If there's nothing in NHL 12, I'll revert my saying, but until then, history prove that it's the case.
                      Did you seriously just say that the dev team leaves glitches in so they can have an advantage online?
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                      • mondoguitar
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 428

                        #41
                        Re: Exclusive NHL 12 Producer Blog: Online Innovations

                        Originally posted by Millennium
                        Did you seriously just say that the dev team leaves glitches in so they can have an advantage online?
                        That's a pretty far leap and an excuse for bugs and exploits. haha. They could exploit anything they want to given that they DEVELOPED THE GAME!! lol

                        I know for a fact, some of the teams that beat us were 12 year old glitchers, not EA devs That post was nonsense.

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                        • Diehardfan
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 156

                          #42
                          Simply put. Just more and more dumb useless crap that 12 and 13 year old kids love. How about a real hockey experience? How about not wasting resources on such innane children's play like HUT? How about making a game that plays like hockey for real hockey players? How about returning the Commishioner Mode so if mature players want to play MATURELY, they can against one another in their OWN leagues? Im sick and tired of the same ridiculous garbage year after year.

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                          • Millennium
                            Franchise Streamer
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 9889

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Diehardfan
                            Simply put. Just more and more dumb useless crap that 12 and 13 year old kids love. How about a real hockey experience? How about not wasting resources on such innane children's play like HUT? How about making a game that plays like hockey for real hockey players? How about returning the Commishioner Mode so if mature players want to play MATURELY, they can against one another in their OWN leagues? Im sick and tired of the same ridiculous garbage year after year.
                            Myself and my EASHL team are all around 30, and loved HUT.
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                            • stew514
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 103

                              #44
                              Re: Exclusive NHL 12 Producer Blog: Online Innovations

                              Originally posted by Diehardfan
                              Simply put. Just more and more dumb useless crap that 12 and 13 year old kids love. How about a real hockey experience? How about not wasting resources on such innane children's play like HUT? How about making a game that plays like hockey for real hockey players? How about returning the Commishioner Mode so if mature players want to play MATURELY, they can against one another in their OWN leagues? Im sick and tired of the same ridiculous garbage year after year.
                              If you want a real hockey experience play real hockey.

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                              • ChaseB
                                #BringBackFaceuary
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 9844

                                #45
                                Re: Exclusive NHL 12 Producer Blog: Online Innovations

                                Originally posted by Millennium
                                Did you seriously just say that the dev team leaves glitches in so they can have an advantage online?
                                I believe he called the developers cheaters.

                                Originally posted by Millennium
                                Myself and my EASHL team are all around 30, and loved HUT.
                                Whoa whoa whoa, don't lump me in with the "around 30" crowd. I am 23 sir.
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