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  • Redskins_Hokies
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    • Jul 2011
    • 378

    #256
    Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

    Back to the bad play calling

    no timeouts for the Bears this time with 16 seconds left down 17 to 21 and out of shotgun the elect to run when they are at their own 20 yard line. an 80 yard rushing touchdown is seriously not something that the CPU should even be thinking they have a shot for. They should have the awareness to start throwing deep to medium routes trying to get out of bounds.

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    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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      • Dec 2006
      • 17294

      #257
      Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

      Originally posted by menglish20
      To surprise onside kick, select normal kickoff, hit A to start the meter, then B to stop it. I recovered on my first try.
      Really? I use B to start the meter.
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      • SGMRock
        Pro
        • Jul 2009
        • 991

        #258
        Originally posted by crques
        This is encouraging to read. I can't get into the next generation NCAA games, but I enjoy Madden 10 & 11. I was curious to know if 12 would continue taking steps in the right direction or not. The Madden players just have a better, more weighted feel to them. Have you seen dirty uniforms?
        So far I have only played 2 games first 1 on all pro which I used to normally win at pretty easy I got picked off 4x and lost 28 - 3 playing as GB. One of my picks was Urlacher leaping up and fully extending his arm up and one hand catching a pass over the middle. I don't think I have seen too many WR make a catch like that. The other pics were mostly my fault, I was forcing things a bit to much I think.

        One complaint I have though is the whole preplay system. Why do they keep changing this, it seems different now than 11 was and I keep having to use the Madden 10 setup otherwise I get delay of game trying to navagate all the menus to say hold a HB in to pass block. :P At least they let us set it back to older version or I would be lost.

        Played my second game on Pro level and it seemed to play pretty nice on default settings though I think I ran the ball a bit too easy. Passing at least seemed about just right on the Pro level setting. Grant had like 7 or 8 yds a carry though so I think when I get the game I will start at pro and tweak the run game a bit making it harder for me and leave the passing game at the current level. I like to play on Slow though so 3rd game I'm going to try Pro level but with slow speed.

        Overall it seems like a nice demo so far. I want to test more to see if this game suffers from the physic DBs though like NCAA. The ball trajectory is still to low or the bullet pass button is to sensitive, one of the two.
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        • DGuinta1
          MVP
          • Aug 2004
          • 2706

          #259
          Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

          Partly the reason I am really enjoying the demo is because I wasn't expecting much this year and wasn't sure if I would even get it. But I am going to get it day 1. If I like the demo this much and it's an old build, can't wait for the retail version.
          Surprised so many people not having any luck with the Bears. I have been doing well with them.
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          • belucheez
            Banned
            • Dec 2010
            • 203

            #260
            Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

            Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
            Really? I use B to start the meter.
            Weird. I used B - B to kick the surprise onside, but it only worked once. I'll try the A - B but B - B worked once and then I couldn't do it again.

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            • menglish20
              Rookie
              • Jul 2009
              • 78

              #261
              Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

              Things I like:
              -New visual enhancements. This game is very aesthetically appealing.
              -The game feels a little smoother than 11 (similar to NCAA).
              -I actually pay the price for poorly thrown balls (but at the same time, I'm mirrored all to well)
              -Running feels realer

              Things I dislike:
              -Special teams are a disaster. No blocking, no lanes, no realism.
              -Defenders don't jostle for the ball. I don't know if this is accounted for in traits, but what defender stands in front of a receiver (not running), waits for him to catch it then tackles him?
              -Poor playcalling. If they really wanted to speed up games, they'd fix gameflow. At this point Gameflow loses you games, end of story.
              -It's dumb to play this game on All-Pro or higher. The game knows which play you call and the only way to really move the ball is to audible every play, which just takes the fun out of it. If I run 3 plays in a row for significant gains, I should get them to bite on a PA pass. But they know the playcall before I line up.


              That's all for now.

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              • menglish20
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                • Jul 2009
                • 78

                #262
                Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

                Originally posted by belucheez
                Weird. I used B - B to kick the surprise onside, but it only worked once. I'll try the A - B but B - B worked once and then I couldn't do it again.
                I didn't try it B - B that might work too. I thought I read before that you can only do it once per game?

                When I did it, it was definitely A - B.

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                • CatMan72
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 811

                  #263
                  Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

                  I'm very impressed with the demo, graphical and presentation improvements blow me away... there are times when the player faces look photo-realistic. Love the lack of suction, it makes a HUGE difference. I also love the improvements to the defensive AI, they seem much more aware of the ball and they play zones much better. I'm really excited to get my hands on the full version!

                  You can count me as one of those people who prefers the slow game speed. At normal speed it feels too "twitchy" while at slow speed it feels like things just set up a little better and you have just a little more time to process the information and make decisions.

                  It feels like the standard camera is pulled back more this year, going to take some getting used to... it's a shame given the beauty of the player models, may try the zoom camera when I get the full game.

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                  • belucheez
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 203

                    #264
                    Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

                    Originally posted by menglish20
                    I didn't try it B - B that might work too. I thought I read before that you can only do it once per game?

                    When I did it, it was definitely A - B.
                    That is what I think it is, the only once per game theory. I'm try it one more time to see what happens. They must of done it so people don't abuse it.

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                    • jagsrock95
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 191

                      #265
                      Wow!
                      This might not be the madden we have all dreamed about but it's pretty freakin good.
                      -First off its hard not to notice the beautiful presentation. It's amazing and I have to give it to EA for going all out on it this year. Madden 11 and Madden 12 don't even look close to the same.

                      - Player models are fantastic and facial expression and eyes look great.

                      - Compared to NCAA 12 the players seem like they have more weight to them and don't slide around so much.

                      -less zig zagging as well

                      -Defense is back and I love it, although I did see some super linebackers but overall its better because of the improved zone and pass rush.

                      - offensively running the ball feels great but passing still seems a bit off. Some reason it just seems like you have a lack of control over your passes still.

                      -I still don't like that theres no other way too know your DPP than to pause the game

                      - The camera angles really make this game, absolutely love them

                      -one thing that surprised me was the audio, it's actually really good. The crowd sounds so much better than NCAA 12 and actually reacts pretty well to plays. My first game I was getting blown out by the packers and by the third touchdown they started booing louder. In contrast when I scored the crowed erupted. also the stadium tunes between timeouts and kickoffs sound pretty sweet too. This game really doesn't even need commentary at this point, Im probably going to turn it off when I get the game and pump up the on field and crowd volume.

                      -Overall this game seems to have a really big factor that NCAA 12 is missing, "Atmosphere" this game really does get you pumped up. The opening presentation is amazing and then during the game there is a certain authenticity and atmosphere that has been missing for years.Im impressed and while I understand there are flaws I'm still very happy with the outcome of this years game. For the first time in a long time I'm excited for Maddens future. If the team continues to produce work like this from this game onwards I can see Madden making its way back from tired old sports franchise to Best Sports Franchise.

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                      • Yeah...THAT Guy
                        Once in a Lifetime Memory
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 17294

                        #266
                        Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

                        Wow, just finished a great game. I was leading 10-7 going into the 4th before Rodgers led the Packers down the field and Ryan Grant eventually punched it in to make it 14-10 with 4:20 remaining. So Cutler led me down the field, converting on a 3rd and 25 to Earl Bennett, and then a 3rd and 9 to Johnny Knox that took me down to the 1 yard line. I then called a QB sneak and Cutler was hit by BJ Raji but was able to reach into the endzone with 14 seconds left. The Packers returned the kick to their 40, hit Finley for a 15 yard pickup with 3 seconds left, and then Rodgers fired a deep ball to Jennings for the win but Daniel Manning picked it off in the endzone.

                        Still a minor gripe though is that I think WRs and DBs and stuff should be able to slide like a QB because I tried to dive out of bounds before they could hit me in the endzone and as it's been the case for many Madden's now, Manning just dropped the ball when he dove and thankfully my team recovered it or the Packers would have won.
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                        • bucky60
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                          • Jan 2008
                          • 3288

                          #267
                          Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

                          Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                          converting on a 3rd and 25
                          Heard a lot of good things so far, but this stuff worries me. Happens to often in Madden. In Wisconsin, we still talk about 4rh and 26 BECAUSE it is so rare (and it was a playoff game).

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                          • fatpat268
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                            • Jul 2008
                            • 5

                            #268
                            Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

                            So far it's been a big improvement over Madden 11, but the framerate is really chugging. The framerate dips everytime when you're out of the action.

                            Really annoying so far, hope the retail version is better on this front.

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                            • WDOgF0reL1fe
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 3427

                              #269
                              Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

                              Not gonna lie. Didnt see too many issues with the demo.

                              I tried having fun with it.
                              And I did.

                              Loved every second of it.
                              All - Pro and it was tied 3-3 into the 4th quarter.

                              I was (GB) and Cutler had negative tendency to scramble when he felt pressure and he did!
                              Pretty cool, seeing as how NCAA always tried to HAVE AI qbs scramble.

                              Only negative, and it happens every year, is why are replays ALWAYS so short.
                              So weird that they are ALWAYS cut off halfway into the play.
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                              • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                                • Dec 2006
                                • 17294

                                #270
                                Re: Madden NFL 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360)

                                Originally posted by bucky60
                                Heard a lot of good things so far, but this stuff worries me. Happens to often in Madden. In Wisconsin, we still talk about 4rh and 26 BECAUSE it is so rare (and it was a playoff game).
                                I think they were in a Cover 3 Defense and Cutler just made a gorgeous throw between a CB, a LB, and a Safety.
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