Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

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  • NINJAK2
    *S *dd*ct
    • Jan 2003
    • 6185

    #16
    Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

    Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
    2k5 needs to die. There was a reason it was 20 dollars. I would rather play Tecmo Super Bowl than that trash.
    It will die when a better NFL game is put out....I'm still waiting.......

    I thought the demo was fun and I really liked the presentation, graphics and collision system. Didn't like it as much as the ncaa demo though..
    EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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    • Dashdagreat
      Rookie
      • Feb 2010
      • 40

      #17
      Originally posted by dannyr326
      I absolutely love the new collision system. That's one aspect that just feels realistic and stands out as an amazing improvement from last year. Presentation is improved, graphics, etc, (but those aspects are pretty much expected at this point).

      My main gripe is along the lines of what Jayson and Steve mentioned. The Psychic Cornerbacks are simply ruining the fun of "threading the needle" on higher difficulties and as Jayson said "player warping make it feel like the CPU is at tims cheating you on defense instead of legitimately outsmarting you with superior tactics or skills"

      ***I am shocked because the WR/CB interactions have been broken every year this generation.***

      *Go ahead and try to fit the ball in those tight spots and the Corner will be facing in the complete opposite direction (running full speed), and still change direction in a split second to make the interception.

      Fix those problems mentioned above, bring back the importance of controlling ball placement/ trajectory, and implement real-time physics (as the NHL series was able to accomplish) and I will be content with Madden football.

      Does anyone out there agree?
      i do! My biggest problem with Madden is OL/DL play and ball trajectory! They just ruin the game for me... On NCAA im a little more ok with it cause its college, but in a Pro football game, its just inexcusable

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      • Blitzburgh
        Pro
        • Sep 2003
        • 793

        #18
        Here is a thought... How about someone ask the developers if this build is older than the E3 build! I don't understand why we have to debate such simple questions that are so easy to obtain.

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        • Dashdagreat
          Rookie
          • Feb 2010
          • 40

          #19
          Originally posted by blklightning
          imo, ncaa is absolutely terrible. they have to resort to the biggest cheat tactics they can think of to give you a challenge. go try nba 2k11 to see how giving the user a challenge is supposed to be done.
          O ima 2k11 BEAST!!! I would rather be playing a 2k football game, but since its not a option, i like the NCAA. Kinda lesser of 2 evil i guess. LIke i said its flawed ( hence why i wont play it online ), but fix a couple sliders n its enjoyable for me... I would MUCH MUCH rather be playing NFL2k12 but thats a whole different topic

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          • SportsTop
            The Few. The Proud.
            • Jul 2003
            • 6716

            #20
            I'm not sure why the writers that thought the game play was too fast just didn't adjust it to slow in the options.

            And yes, you can spotlight receivers, play up or back of individual receivers as well. The issue is the CPU QB hikes the ball too fast to make many of these adjustments.
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            • mellamoaaron
              Rookie
              • Apr 2009
              • 104

              #21
              If you play the game on the default speed and complain about it without changing the game speed down to slow, then I don't have much to say to you. Put the game speed on slow and you can even turn the threshold down to 35, and it plays at a perfect speed (with or without the threshold being lowered).
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              • The Bimmer
                Far from perfect
                • Oct 2006
                • 1236

                #22
                Christian hits the nail right on the head. Lets face it demo impressions while they help the developers to some extent, are just forums for people to give opinions in a world full of opinions.

                Lets say we are watching Iron Chef and the judges gave their impressions of the food before the Chef's completed their entree's. We would all be saying "What are they talking about, they arent even done yet".

                One may think, well if they gave them the entree to try before it was complete then it would be ok to make redundant remarks, but you see they DONT do that. Thats my point.

                Sorry about the rant, I just gotta quite reading DEMO impression threads.
                Last edited by The Bimmer; 08-10-2011, 07:09 PM.

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                • sportsgamefanman
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 127

                  #23
                  Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

                  Originally posted by SportsTop
                  I'm not sure why the writers that thought the game play was too fast just didn't adjust it to slow in the options.

                  And yes, you can spotlight receivers, play up or back of individual receivers as well. The issue is the CPU QB hikes the ball too fast to make many of these adjustments.
                  Definitely no time to make changes but the way you have to do it is still to clunky. I hate having to use the d pad! I even switched the setting to madden 10 but it still isn't the same. Why take my thumb off the left stick and go to dpad and then the CPU QB hikes it and my guy automatically runs forward and falls while I try to bring my thumb from the dpad to the left thumbstick?! Makes no sense! Plus the controls from NCAA and madden are not the same. The way NCAA has the pre snap adjustments are how madden should be. Same developer, same building, different controls? It's also frustrating to have to hit 2-3 different buttons to try and bump n run on 1 wr while having the other play off and then spotlight a WR. Its almost and actually is impossible to pull this off prior to the CPU hiking the ball...

                  Also, I like that in NCAA you can make adjustments and sell out for the run or pass left, middle, or right. Why not add the same to madden. I would like to see the NCAA and madden teams have a meeting and discuss together a few issues. Take what works so well in NCAA and add to madden. Defensive line interaction doesn't seem to work. I was J Peppers for a game and I tried right stick left, right, up, and down all game and got nothing unless I used the right stick pressed down prior to the snap and I would get by Packers Left tackle every time or on occassion just get knocked to the ground and pancaked. FRUSTRATING! I also find it frustrating with the CB and WR interactions. It's completely unrealistic.

                  I do love the graphics though and presentation! Great job!

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                  • blackpuppy
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 176

                    #24
                    Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                    2k5 needs to die. There was a reason it was 20 dollars. I would rather play Tecmo Super Bowl than that trash.
                    Maybe, but it was good to have a 2nd choice. At least that way it forced EA to compete price and innovation wise. Competition can be good.
                    Go Yankees!
                    Go Packers!
                    Go RedBulls!

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                    • blackpuppy
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 176

                      #25
                      I'm enjoying it. I really like the new way to navigate play selection and the new camera angles. Mind you, I've only seriously been playing Madden for the last 2 - 3 years.
                      Go Yankees!
                      Go Packers!
                      Go RedBulls!

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                      • Humphrey Errington
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 8

                        #26
                        Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

                        Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                        2k5 needs to die. There was a reason it was 20 dollars. I would rather play Tecmo Super Bowl than that trash.
                        HAHAHAHA!!! Everybody point and laugh at the butthurt EA lover who just realized that the "Greatest Madden Evarrr!!!!!" still won't even be 1/2 of what 2K5 was on the field (where it matters). It's ok little guy, denial is the toughest stage, and you'll work through it eventually. But sooner or later you're going to have to accept the fact that EA is incapable of making a better football game than the one 2K made 8 years ago with last gen technology. It's kind of pitiful if you ask me...

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                        • PolkHigh33
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 233

                          #27
                          Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

                          The speed of the game being too fast is the most asinine argument I've heard ..

                          Does anyone actually watch Football?

                          Good read, I think there's always going to be problems, and little annoyances, but for the most part it's great so far ..

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                          • Smoke6
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1454

                            #28
                            Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

                            Originally posted by seasprite
                            I would rather play the demo of M12 all day than play another game of the retail NCAA. AA this year is so full of glitches and breakdowns its hardly playable. The player(especially DBs) warping through WRs and TEs is the most frustrating thing I have ever encountered with a football video game. Its a shame to, because I put AA above Madden for the last 4 years.
                            You must not have played the demo enough, so ill gone and post this lil replay vid of whats been happening to me and its very frustrating to see this happen alot.

                            Also why is it everytime in every madden that as soon as I hit the button for my intended WR, the AI (all 11 of them) have this spidey sense and know who, where and when the ball is being thrown? I never get that element of surprise or the defender actually being unaware of the play thats going on up until this demo when I AM PLAYING DEFENSE?

                            But here is the SUPER DB clip...

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                            • bkrich83
                              Has Been
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71582

                              #29
                              Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

                              Originally posted by Humphrey Errington
                              HAHAHAHA!!! Everybody point and laugh at the butthurt EA lover who just realized that the "Greatest Madden Evarrr!!!!!" still won't even be 1/2 of what 2K5 was on the field (where it matters). It's ok little guy, denial is the toughest stage, and you'll work through it eventually. But sooner or later you're going to have to accept the fact that EA is incapable of making a better football game than the one 2K made 8 years ago with last gen technology. It's kind of pitiful if you ask me...
                              How does this help? Check the fanboy bs at the door.
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                              • bkrich83
                                Has Been
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 71582

                                #30
                                Re: Staff Roundtable: Madden NFL 12 Demo Impressions

                                Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                                2k5 needs to die. There was a reason it was 20 dollars. I would rather play Tecmo Super Bowl than that trash.
                                Troll more.
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