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Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

How so? Everyone's perception of football realism is quite different.

Well it shouldn't be. Anyone who says the player movement in Madden is realistic should lose all credibility in the conversation.

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

I think what drives 2k5's enduring legacy has nothing to do with the actual game of Madden, but the anger that revolves around the license deal itself.

I'm sure that has something to do with it for some people, but you can't honestly say that we would still be talking about 2K5 if Madden was where it should be by now, ergo Madden failing to improve is what makes us still consider 2K5 to be great. Which is sad, because as spankdatazz said, it's ridiculous that 2K5 is still in the conversation of best football game in 2011.