Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Chicago Bears and Detroit Lions

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  • drewst18
    Pro
    • Jan 2007
    • 761

    #16
    Die hard Lions fan and I like it.

    This is the out of the box rating and will change. Stafford IS better than an 80, but you can't blame the EA guys for this one. When he only played 10 quarters of football last year its hard to rate a guy. If he stays healthy this year expect him in the 2nd tier of guys behind brady, brees, manning. He will be in with Rivers, Vick, Shaub, Ryan.

    Calvin is a monster in Madden (or Techmo as Chris Carter put it) so I don't really care about his overall, he is as good as it gets for WR.

    Suh is a 90, and will get a bump with a week or two, but 90 out of the box is still sick.

    Pettigrew put up great numbers but if you dig a little deeper you will see hes right about where he should be. He was among the league leaders in drops last year with I think 12 and took a huge amount of penalties. He has the skills if he can harness them to be one of the best.

    I agree that Deandre Levy got the shaft. In 11 games last year he had 72 tackles. Average that over the whole season and hes right around the numbers of James Farrior and ahead of Jonathan Vilma. Not to mention 2 INTs and 2 FF and one Def TD.

    And lastly the player that gets the biggest shaft. Stephan Logan. I understand the need to not give this guy 97-99 speed cause it will probably make him a cheese player and boost his overall, but he was a Pro Bowl Alternate and absolute beast in the return game. Played WR and HB also last year, and when playing HB ran the ball very effectively.

    All in all I think EA did a pretty good job for a rating out of the box. And to the guy complaining about the FA it is pretty clear that these are rosters before Free Agency....
    Go Lions, Wings and Wolverines!

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    • feeq14
      MVP
      • Jun 2004
      • 3526

      #17
      Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Chicago Bears and Detroit Lions

      Looking at this as a hardcore bears fan makes me happy to see us getting some respect. But it also reminds me just how lucky/well coached we were last year because these ratings are a bit inflated. Chris Harris, Anthony Adamns, Tim Jennings all need a bit of a downgrade. Crhis Williams... 84 HAHAHAHAHA! Major Wright and Melton will definitely need bumps though, they are both gonna be starters and will be much improved after the first update. Thankfully with team editing i will be going through the whole game getting my ratings where i want.

      Lastly... with guys like Jake Locker getting 80+ speed, how the heck does Cutler only have 71? His possibly the best pure Athlete at QB outside of Vick, Young, Newton and afew others, and guys like Locker have never been big time run guys as far as i know. Scrambling sure and that deserves no more than a 75 which is where Locker, Rodgers, Cutler and the like belong. But 83... thats outrageous.

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      • chuckles012
        Banned
        • Jan 2010
        • 292

        #18
        Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Chicago Bears and Detroit Lions

        ^ Agreed, but Major Wright got his ratings right its just his overall is low.. Hes fast and 95 Hit power great for user control. Hmm Tillman is a little overrated and Chris Harris is too... Julius Peppers 65 blocking shedding...? Chester Taylor a little overrated, The whole line was a joke last year to see anyone over 75 makes me smh.. And I'm a hardcore lifelong Bears fan. Like Caleb Hanie getting some love!

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        • Xotros
          Pro
          • Jan 2011
          • 565

          #19
          Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Chicago Bears and Detroit Lions

          For the Lions, I think they overrated S Erik Coleman. On the underrated front however, I would say they blew it on Calvin Johnson, Levy, Titus Youngs' speed (much of the reason he was drafted), and willy young.

          Also Jeff Backus not being the best blocker on the team if quite funny. He is the pinnacle of consistency over his career and was voted best tackle in the NFC north last year as well.

          Aaron Berry I think will get (deserves to get) a massive boost considering he's competed for a starting corner job the last two years. Jim Schwartz seems to think he's a great corner, and his ratings should make him on par with T. Hill/Nate Vasher at least.

          Suppose I'll add the Lions to teams I have to manually edit once I have the game.
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          • xpmar9x
            Rookie
            • Jul 2010
            • 142

            #20
            Titus Young only ran a 4.4, id still say 88 is to slow. But he's no DeSean like people compared him too. 93 is probably about right.

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            • rboocahrd
              Rookie
              • Jun 2005
              • 69

              #21
              Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Chicago Bears and Detroit Lions

              RT Cherilus and Fox should be closer to mid 70s. Cherilus could be slowed down and reduced in both footwork categories. He is a very sloppy player in real life and is starting because he was a 1st rounder. Fox could get a bit of a strength boost along with RBS, PBS, and awareness.

              TE Pettigrew could use a strength boost. He is not the greatest blocker but has a lot of raw power.

              LB Bobby Carpenter should have his ratings lowered across the board. He played well last year but not that well. His coverage skills are not as good as listed.

              Suh is fine where he is rated. He had a beast of a year but it was one year and with his attributes he should skyrocket fast.

              SS Amari Spievey should get a small boost to mid 70s. He had a solid rookie year and is having a great camp.

              WR Titus Young could use a bit of a speed boost as stated by others.

              CB Aaron Berry could use an overall boost but an injury rating in the 50s or 60s. He has looked very good but can't stay healthy.

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              • the_EDJ
                Rookie
                • Apr 2009
                • 58

                #22
                @xpmar9x Larry Fitzgerald also ran a 4.4 out of college and was listed as an 89 Spd.

                To anyone arguing stats for ratings, it's player skill, not output that goes furthest into determining a player's ratings. Output will sway it one way or another, but think of their base skills and then if they overachieve, they're boosted a bit, or lowered if they underachieve.

                As a Bears fan, I pretty stoked with this roster. It's wayyyy more accurate than my Huskers in NCAA

                Three starting WR's are 79 Ovr for Chicago, Williams with 90 Speed, Knox with 97 Speed, and Hester with 98 Speed.

                Dline looks solid! Peppers can beast in the game this year, Izzy gets respect with a decent 82 rating. Then the rookie Paea has 98 strength to help plug the middle with Adams and Toeaina. Then you have Gholston coming in to pair with Wootton as a backup. And Okoye makes me forget who Tommie Harris is.

                Secondary looked overrated in my opinion, but I'm ok with that. Major Wright though was vastly underrated. I wonder how Conte is getting a higher rating than our starter.

                It's sad how accurate the Oline is. Not a single player over 80 Ovr. :'(
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                • infemous
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1568

                  #23
                  Jahvid Best is an 80 OVR??? LMAO

                  Also, any Rams fans here? You also dying of laughter and crying at the same time seeing Tye Hill get 76 Man Coverage rating? hahaha
                  Blood in my mouth beats blood on the ground.

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                  • infemous
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1568

                    #24
                    I honestly can't get over how abysmal these ratings are. As you can see there are a fair few fans who know about their teams and don't demand 99's for their favourites and can easily rate players better than Moore, who is constantly whiffing on ratings.

                    Hopefully Young makes a 95 yard TD in pre season so he can get a roster boost.

                    It's gutting that ratings can't be edited for online franchise... Leagues are gonna be stacked after 2 seasons now...
                    Blood in my mouth beats blood on the ground.

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                    • Drix10
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 71

                      #25
                      My thoughts as a die hard Bears fan:
                      Cutler might be a little overrated, maybe an 82 would be better. And I think Stafford when the season is over will be better. I really liked what I saw of him last year.
                      The Lions getting a lot of love on the O line, and the Bears is about right except Chris Williams I think is probably the worst starter they have. I think Garza should get a ratings bump, and Carimi is looking like a gamer and might benefit from some more awareness. He could be in the high 80's next year.
                      Peppers too low, Wright too low as has been well chronicled here, and Melton needs all kinds of help. He was a former running back in college at Texas and scored 10 TD's as a freshman with VY. His physical skills should be really high for a DT, with the exception of strength and of course awareness will be lower because he moved from End. Somone mentioned Chris Conte, I think he is overrated now, but not in the long run, he's a tackling machine and some compared him favorably to John Lynch as a possible SS in the future. Major Wright needs some love cause he's coming along nicely. Big hitter with decent insticts. He's as good if not better than Daniel Manning.
                      And I might get lit up for this one ... Urlacher might be a tad overrated, I'm not convinced he's playing in his prime anymore. I like it ... but I'm not it's accurate.
                      I'll be making these changes in my franchise if it's not done by the first update.

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                      • Gorilla Glass
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 1139

                        #26
                        Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Chicago Bears and Detroit Lions

                        Yeah Cutler should be atleast an 79-80. He holds the ball long, forces passes, Sends a guys jersey to the HOF.

                        Sigh, Donny at it again. lol.

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                        • Drix10
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 71

                          #27
                          Originally posted by spyder_DG
                          Dear Bears,

                          Thanks for Greg Olsen. He will be very fun to use in franchise and watch in real life.

                          Signed,

                          An Avid Panthers Fan
                          Believe me, it pained me to see him go. He's been one of my favorite Bears for a few years now. Damn Martz. But it was great to see him do well in the preseason game the other night. Looks like Newton will be relying on the new TE alot. I'm so glad he hasn't been implicated in the Miami Booster scandal, unlike our favorite punt returner, Hester.

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                          • csstew55
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 15

                            #28
                            Originally posted by feeq14
                            Looking at this as a hardcore bears fan makes me happy to see us getting some respect. But it also reminds me just how lucky/well coached we were last year because these ratings are a bit inflated. Chris Harris, Anthony Adamns, Tim Jennings all need a bit of a downgrade. Crhis Williams... 84 HAHAHAHAHA! Major Wright and Melton will definitely need bumps though, they are both gonna be starters and will be much improved after the first update. Thankfully with team editing i will be going through the whole game getting my ratings where i want.

                            Lastly... with guys like Jake Locker getting 80+ speed, how the heck does Cutler only have 71? His possibly the best pure Athlete at QB outside of Vick, Young, Newton and afew others, and guys like Locker have never been big time run guys as far as i know. Scrambling sure and that deserves no more than a 75 which is where Locker, Rodgers, Cutler and the like belong. But 83... thats outrageous.
                            really??? really???

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                            • Faizon
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 503

                              #29
                              Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Chicago Bears and Detroit Lions

                              Lions are really nice on the defensive line, not just Suh and Fairley, but Avril and all the other depth they have

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                              • PackerBacker123
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 103

                                #30
                                me being a packer fan I think that we will have plenty of interception against Cutler

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