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  • booker21
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 4928

    #1

    Pass Rush is killing me.

    The pass rush as many have mentioned is flawed this year.

    There is nothing you can do if the OL collapse in the middle.

    IRL pass rush usually comes from the outside, so it´s a must to enter the "pocket".

    This year, DT are passing by the middle of the OL so there are no Pocket at all.

    A tunner could help to fix this i think.

    DE should generate more rush than the DT.

    The IL should pass block better and not letting the DT pass through.
    English, is not my first language.
  • Old School SD Fan
    Banned
    • Jul 2010
    • 749

    #2
    Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

    Originally posted by booker21
    The pass rush as many have mentioned is flawed this year.

    There is nothing you can do if the OL collapse in the middle.

    IRL pass rush usually comes from the outside, so it´s a must to enter the "pocket".

    This year, DT are passing by the middle of the OL so there are no Pocket at all.

    A tunner could help to fix this i think.

    DE should generate more rush than the DT.

    The IL should pass block better and not letting the DT pass through.

    I had a high 80's C that was getting beat ALL THE TIME by inferior opposition, so I checked his ratings. AWR was in the 50's so I bumped it to 80. Guy improved 10x, stopped being a revolving door.

    You might check your interior linemen and see if a little ratings tweak might help.

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    • ucas005
      Pro
      • Jul 2006
      • 505

      #3
      Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

      Originally posted by booker21
      DE should generate more rush than the DT.
      This is my biggest issue with the game. Pass rush doesn't make any sense. Pass rush slider up/pass block down only produces a stronger pass rush from the DTs. (swim move WAY to effective) The DEs no matter what the setting do the same canned animation. DE player ratings make no difference on pressure type to the QB.

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      • Shankssta
        Rookie
        • Dec 2010
        • 162

        #4
        Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

        I think it's because of the edited roster glitch. Run stopping DTs become pass rushers and pass rushing DEs become run stoppers. Try playing a few games with original numbers only rosters and see if there is a difference.

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        • brayTxiv
          Rookie
          • Jan 2009
          • 84

          #5
          Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

          Originally posted by Shankssta
          I think it's because of the edited roster glitch. Run stopping DTs become pass rushers and pass rushing DEs become run stoppers. Try playing a few games with original numbers only rosters and see if there is a difference.
          Might have to try that. Was wondering why my DTs were getting 8-10 sacks a year and DEs only getting 2-3. If changing tendencies makes that much a difference, I'm gonna change all Dline to pass rushing.

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          • Shankssta
            Rookie
            • Dec 2010
            • 162

            #6
            Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

            If you are past the 1st season of a dynasty don't change the recruits because they aren't affected by the glitch.

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            • thefridge15
              Rookie
              • Aug 2011
              • 4

              #7
              Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

              While I do agree that the pass rushing is broken (esp. with DT's), there are ways around it in gameplay. First things first is to identify zone or man coverage with motion, where the D lines up, etc... Then I make sure to know where are my recievers are going at all times. After saying hut I honestly sit there for a second or two and watch my o-line (except on quick throws). Once I see the gap to step up into (because my OG got beat) I step up into it and look down the field for open recievers. It is really effective against the 3 or 4 man rushes. You just gotta adjust the way you play the game.

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              • RogueHominid
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2006
                • 10903

                #8
                Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

                Originally posted by booker21
                The pass rush as many have mentioned is flawed this year.

                There is nothing you can do if the OL collapse in the middle.

                IRL pass rush usually comes from the outside, so it´s a must to enter the "pocket".

                This year, DT are passing by the middle of the OL so there are no Pocket at all.

                A tunner could help to fix this i think.

                DE should generate more rush than the DT.

                The IL should pass block better and not letting the DT pass through.
                x1,000,000!!!

                This has been my only major beef with this game, but it's been such a big one that it's frustrated me to no end.

                I have played extensively with MK's Varsity set and Matt's Heisman set and have tested specifically for this issue. Those are GREAT slider sets, but I was still seeing the LDT or NT in 3 man rush fronts whip right by OGs or Cs immediately after the snap on at least half my pass attempts. That just wasn't working for me.

                I lucked out, though, and think I've found the solution. I tried SEC's AA set, and I made two small adjustments: I bumped HUM pass block up 5 and lowered CPU pass rush by 5 and it's literally perfect. The issue seems to have disappeared.

                Now my interior line holds up just like it should--I can step up in the pocket to deliver the ball and I'm not getting hit at 1.5 seconds every play. Most of the sacks now actually come from the DE position. I highly encourage those who are frustrated with this issue to try this set with these adjustments.

                I think INTs are too high for CPU on that set, so you may need to tone those down, but something about the balance feels perfect.

                Also, I recommend the rerates by Cparrish and Yukon. I use those rosters and have fantastic games.

                I'd be curious to know if this helps others. Please chime in if this set + adjustments works for you!

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                • Playmakers
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 15419

                  #9
                  Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

                  Originally posted by Old School SD Fan
                  I had a high 80's C that was getting beat ALL THE TIME by inferior opposition, so I checked his ratings. AWR was in the 50's so I bumped it to 80. Guy improved 10x, stopped being a revolving door.

                  You might check your interior linemen and see if a little ratings tweak might help.
                  and that right there is always a major problem with EA

                  Some people think just because they see a OL rated in the 80's he'll be good on the field but the reality is the OL's ratings are high only because of the blocking ratings having more value than the actual awareness rating..

                  The awareness rating on the field is like the actual heart and soul of the OL because it makes them understand how to block and who to block.

                  Even with no name rosters un-edited the Offensive line play is horrible because half the line runs around the field trying to function with 50-70 awareness which is pathetic IMO and poor ratings job by EA
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                  • booker21
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 4928

                    #10
                    Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

                    I´m using default rosters by the way.

                    DE hardly get pressure.

                    DT get all the pressure.. crazy.
                    English, is not my first language.

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                    • RogueHominid
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 10903

                      #11
                      Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

                      Originally posted by booker21
                      I´m using default rosters by the way.

                      DE hardly get pressure.

                      DT get all the pressure.. crazy.
                      I'm telling you bro, try the above setup out. It changed the game completely for me, and I didn't think that was possible.

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                      • Shankssta
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 162

                        #12
                        Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

                        Even if I step up into the pocket when a DE gets pressure, he will still sack me because there is no momentum in this game and he change direction whenever he wants.

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                        • justtxyank
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 101

                          #13
                          Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

                          I run a 3-4 and my OLB's have only a few sacks. My NT and ends get all the sacks.

                          This problem happens in all EA games though. The 34 never works right.

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                          • noplace
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 2121

                            #14
                            Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

                            This is the issue with EA. They cant implement anything without breaking it or over doing it.
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                            • booker21
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 4928

                              #15
                              Re: Pass Rush is killing me.

                              Originally posted by noplace
                              This is the issue with EA. They cant implement anything without breaking it or over doing it.
                              things are getting worst.

                              in later games, DT and LE got all the sacks. RE got any.

                              Instead of making the RE to get sacks they remove both DE from getting sacks.

                              We are lucky, next year maybe not even the DT will get sacks
                              English, is not my first language.

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