Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

[jmurphy31]

Madden 12 has come along way in regards to stat banners, but EA still has some work to do in this department.

The Good:
+ The QB Banner to start the first drive
+ After Scoring a TD
+ QB Pressure --Hurries, Sacks
+ Kicking Stats while warming up on sideline
+ The Overall Look of each banner looks more game-like than previous ones

The Bad:
- Complete Sentences - I am all for a stat banner that states my QB has completed 10 passes in a row, but for it to Read "Passing Completion Update" has a title
- Frequency - Should occur more often during the game
- (might change once I play retail version)...Only stats for this game (except the QB one in the beginning)
- Would like to see more variety - mostly just QB, RB, WR or DE after Sacks..I would like to see other positions such as CB (thrown at, balls deflected, completions allowed), More team orientated stats, especially at halftime, quarter breaks...Team and player comparisons (both season and game)...League Leaders

[K_GUN]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

dude-

good thread!

[jmurphy31]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

.It should be added...Same thing with Kickers stats warming on Sideline should be in the positive part...(though it should change ---sometimes adding in Game-tying or Game winning kick info)

[bzehrt24]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

Just some ideas

- Before the games first offensive possession, add an overlay that compares the two teams rushing and passing yards per game, as well as the average amount of points they score/give up.

- When a team heads onto the field after their defense just gave up a score, let us know what they did on their last possession. I know the booth elaborates on this, but it would be nice to see what happened as well.

- Interception? Let's see something that displays how many interceptions that player has on the season, along with total tackles, forced fumbles, etc. '06 had this.

- How about (later in the game) something comes up showing the quarterbacks completions to different parts of the field? Short, medium, and long completion percentages would be awesome.

- And, what I feel to be THE BIGGEST presentation letdown for years and years... why is there no ticker at the bottom of the screen? I CANNOT even begin to fathom why this still hasn't made it in. I want one for this game. I want to see how other teams are doing in my dynasty. This would just add sooo much to the game.

[dkrause1971]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

Just some ideas

- And, what I feel to be THE BIGGEST presentation letdown for years and years... why is there no ticker at the bottom of the screen? I CANNOT even begin to fathom why this still hasn't made it in. I want one for this game. I want to see how other teams are doing in my dynasty. This would just add sooo much to the game.

Ironically, i hate tickers in game. I get miffed if i cannot turn it off. I am not downgrading anything you posted. Just funny how you want it so bad and i would hate it.

[bzehrt24]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

Ironically, i hate tickers in game. I get miffed if i cannot turn it off. I am not downgrading anything you posted. Just funny how you want it so bad and i would hate it.

To each his own. At least make it an option

[PacMan3000]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

I am waiting for stat banners (and the commentary that accompanies it) to become more intricate.

Show me the stats on how often my team wins when my primary running back gets 25 or more carries.

Show me the stats of how often I lose when my #1 receiver gets less than 2 catches a game.

Show me the stats throughout my franchise mode of how often I lose to a division rival in December, or how well my QB plays in warm weather compared to cold weather, or the career numbers showing my QB's ability to complete passes down field versus short and intermediate passes.

I also want stat banners that compare my players in franchise mode to those of NFL history. If I draft a rookie QB, show me his stats at the end of the year compared to when Big Ben when he was a rookie. Or when Troy Aikman when he was a rookie.

If my running back breaks 10,000 yards in his career, show me the stats that say how many games it took Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith, and LaDanian Tomlinson to accomplish the same feat.

[jmurphy31]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

I also like where Madden 11 was going last year with the 2 minute warning stat leaders and even the after halftime QB comparison. After watching some videos it seems these are missing. Though, I would of added other players besides QBs at the half.

I just like to get a feel for whats on going on in my game and season, stat wise without always having to hit pause and go to stats.

This is what I was talking about for team comparison...I would prefer something more in depth (Yes, I know it is form the other game, but I couldn't find a real life clip to cut out)

[reverend_heat]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

I started a drive after the 2 min warning with the Pack in the demo down by 6. A stat banner came up saying Rodgers has led 3 game winning drives in his career, exactly when it would have appeared in real life. It was awesome timing, small thing, but got me pumped up and immersed in the game that much more. More hopeful for Madden's future now than I have been in a long while, not perfect, but most definitely headed in the right direction after years of spinning wheels.

[jmurphy31]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

I am waiting for stat banners (and the commentary that accompanies it) to become more intricate.

Show me the stats on how often my team wins when my primary running back gets 25 or more carries.

Show me the stats of how often I lose when my #1 receiver gets less than 2 catches a game.

Show me the stats throughout my franchise mode of how often I lose to a division rival in December, or how well my QB plays in warm weather compared to cold weather, or the career numbers showing my QB's ability to complete passes down field versus short and intermediate passes.

I also want stat banners that compare my players in franchise mode to those of NFL history. If I draft a rookie QB, show me his stats at the end of the year compared to when Big Ben when he was a rookie. Or when Troy Aikman when he was a rookie.

If my running back breaks 10,000 yards in his career, show me the stats that say how many games it took Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith, and LaDanian Tomlinson to accomplish the same feat.

Great ideas...Madden 11 kind of did historical references to a smaller degree. I always found it funny when they mentioned you passed Madden Announcer Chris Collinsworth in as stat banner

[jmurphy31]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

I started a drive after the 2 min warning with the Pack in the demo down by 6. A stat banner came up saying Rodgers has led 3 game winning drives in his career, exactly when it would have appeared in real life. It was awesome timing, small thing, but got me pumped up and immersed in the game that much more. More hopeful for Madden's future now than I have been in a long while, not perfect, but most definitely headed in the right direction after years of spinning wheels.

They had that in previous Madden's as well. But it is another solid banner

[jmurphy31]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

Also, I feel like this year (in the demo anyway) Stat banners come up after replays more often than before. So if you tap A to skip a replay or cut scene you wont get any banners. I personally think it might be better to have the stat banner pop up first than show a replay second...Maybe even have the Banner showing while the replay is going

[jetup2343]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

I also like where Madden 11 was going last year with the 2 minute warning stat leaders and even the after halftime QB comparison. After watching some videos it seems these are missing. Though, I would of added other players besides QBs at the half.

I just like to get a feel for whats on going on in my game and season, stat wise without always having to hit pause and go to stats.

This is what I was talking about for team comparison...I would prefer something more in depth (Yes, I know it is form the other game, but I couldn't find a real life clip to cut out)

They had that exact comparision in M09.

[T5063]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

I say the more stat banners, the better!! I realy hope they are shown more frequenly then in the demo. So far the only stat banner I've seen that really wowed me and was new was a QB comparison one that showed both qbs stats so far in the game.

Stat banners I'd like to see:
- When the starting offence/defence line-ups are show and a player is marked as one to "watch" I'd like to see some of his stats to see why he stands out.
- More defenisive season stats. I dont ever remember seeing stats for sacks, ffs, int, tackles etc.
- At the beginning of the game: More team to team comparison stats, scores of last three head to head meetings, division standings, league leaders (if any) on either team, if its a division-clinching or playoff elimination game. etc etc... Not all at the same time obviously but different stats at the beggining of every game so it remains fresh.
- Scores of out of town games: Big games or games featuring division rivals. Other games should be played at the same time, not simed right before you enter your game.
- Lists of league leaders that feature a player from one of the teams in it.(This is done in NBA2k11) ei. if Brady is second in the league in passing yards I want to see a list of the top ten with him highlighted.

[RGiles36]

Re: Stat Banners: The Good and the Bad

I am waiting for stat banners (and the commentary that accompanies it) to become more intricate.

Show me the stats on how often my team wins when my primary running back gets 25 or more carries.

Show me the stats of how often I lose when my #1 receiver gets less than 2 catches a game.

Show me the stats throughout my franchise mode of how often I lose to a division rival in December, or how well my QB plays in warm weather compared to cold weather, or the career numbers showing my QB's ability to complete passes down field versus short and intermediate passes.

I also want stat banners that compare my players in franchise mode to those of NFL history. If I draft a rookie QB, show me his stats at the end of the year compared to when Big Ben when he was a rookie. Or when Troy Aikman when he was a rookie.

If my running back breaks 10,000 yards in his career, show me the stats that say how many games it took Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith, and LaDanian Tomlinson to accomplish the same feat.

QFT.

For the first go around (really) with modern presentation, I think the banners are pretty solid -- well the story will be told as we play the retail.

But without a doubt, I want to see this level of detail in the stats in the near future. Show us trends, and all that good stuff. Show me how my star CB doesn't give up any TDs. This is the stuff that the commentators highlight on TV to illustrate to the casual viewer how good a player is -- even if his name doesn't show up the stat sheet.