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Old 08-20-2011, 03:08 PM   #158
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Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Green Bay Packers and Minnesota Vikings

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Originally Posted by bucky60
And Shields shouldn't have been a 71. He was basically our starting CB. GB D was in nickel most of the time, and in the nickel, Woodson is the nickel back.



I like how Bush is progressing as a DB, I'm not a Bush basher, but if you think Bush is more aware than Shields you are crazy. One, Bush would be starting or the nickel back instead of Shields. And did you even watch Shields play during the season? After what you have written so far in this post, I'm convinced you don't know what you are doing.

Yes, I do contend that Bush is the more aware player because of his experience...and it isn't by much as you can see.

And did you notice the separation Finley got on that safety last night?

Watch the video. They have all 3 grabs. That last one for 17 yards is not what I would call seperation. The DB, #23 Hamza Abdullah, gave him the inside on the post, then quickly closed in for the tackle. That is the 86 SPD of Abdullah vs. the 77 SPD of Finley. If Finley had such great separation, why didn't he take it for a larger run after the catch? He caught the ball at the 30 and was tackled at the 33 after having the inside and maybe a yard of separation at most. Not great separation if you ask me. And as for the deep one that they missed on, that was against Joey Porter with his BLAZING 72 SPD, a full 5 under that of Finley and a guy he SHOULD beat even without getting into better position.

Under the TT McCarthy regime, they put in the best player until the kid with the higher ceiling plays better. Sure Shields has a lot to learn, but he is still ahead of Bush as a DB. He's not in there because he's young with a higher ceiling, he's in there because he's already better than Bush. Get out of here with this crap.

Shields is ahead of Bush as a CB. Shields still has a ton to learn and his ratings reflect that.

False, they chose to put the better DB in. He has better cover skills, better balls skills. Bush is just starting to become on OK DB after 5-6 years.

They played two different positions. Shields is by far the better CB.

He was ahead of Bush. As much as I like Bush and am happy he's progressing as a DB, he STILL is not ready to start.

I never said Bush was ready to start. I just said that as a FS, his strengths are further exemplified which allowed him to stand out a bit more.

I don't want to hide the overall, but I do want it to be inaccurate, or a range, that gets more accurate with how good your GM, Scouts, and Coaches evaluate and how long the player is in the NFL. But you COULD NOT BE MORE OFF ON SHIELDS AND BUSH.
They largely played two different positions all last year. I am not saying that Bush is the better player as a CB. But I am saying that he did make up for his lesser physical ability with better recognition skills. That's what FS's have to do back there. Read, and react.
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