NCAA Football 12 Title Update #2 Details

[wepr3]

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This is the first year I haven't bought NCAA at launch since Bill Walsh Football. Fight Night Champion was the straw that broke this camel's back. Not only were there freezing issues and glitches at launch, they totally ignored them and patched and tuned the game from pretty decent to a pile of broken code removing things like cuts and swelling and totally frogging up the judging. They actually broke things that were working and removed items essential to a boxing game.

I remember NCAA last year, the qb accuracy was pretty good out of the box, 3 weeks later Robo QB was patched/tuned back in. On top of that there were so many other changes that the sliders I had worked on for weeks were no longer applicable.

I think that EA now caters to the online crowd. The online crowd tends to be "win at all costs" so they won't tolerate things like innacurate QB's or missing FG's. Actually alot of the offline crowd must be win at all cost too because little Timmy needs the 4 vertical bailout money play in case he is losing late. Its no longer about realism, its fancy graphics first and realistic play second.

Anyway, I have saved myself a ton of frustration by passing on this game this year. The best thing you can do is wait 3 or 4 months until they are done tuning and patching and come back here and ask a few trusted members what they think of the game or renting it. In the end, you will have saved time you can use productively elsewhere, saved money because its usually 39 or less after October, and if enough of us do this, it will put a blip on EA's radar that releasing buggy/glitchy products will not be beta tested for free and purchased at a premium.

I wish I had done what you did this year. I'm currently playing 11, but have held on to 12 to see what happens with the patches/tuning. If I'm not satisfied, I'll be following this advice next year.

[SECElit3]

This is the first year I haven't bought NCAA at launch since Bill Walsh Football. Fight Night Champion was the straw that broke this camel's back. Not only were there freezing issues and glitches at launch, they totally ignored them and patched and tuned the game from pretty decent to a pile of broken code removing things like cuts and swelling and totally frogging up the judging. They actually broke things that were working and removed items essential to a boxing game.

I remember NCAA last year, the qb accuracy was pretty good out of the box, 3 weeks later Robo QB was patched/tuned back in. On top of that there were so many other changes that the sliders I had worked on for weeks were no longer applicable.

I think that EA now caters to the online crowd. The online crowd tends to be "win at all costs" so they won't tolerate things like innacurate QB's or missing FG's. Actually alot of the offline crowd must be win at all cost too because little Timmy needs the 4 vertical bailout money play in case he is losing late. Its no longer about realism, its fancy graphics first and realistic play second.

Anyway, I have saved myself a ton of frustration by passing on this game this year. The best thing you can do is wait 3 or 4 months until they are done tuning and patching and come back here and ask a few trusted members what they think of the game or renting it. In the end, you will have saved time you can use productively elsewhere, saved money because its usually 39 or less after October, and if enough of us do this, it will put a blip on EA's radar that releasing buggy/glitchy products will not be beta tested for free and purchased at a premium.

I agree with ya big guy. I should have learned my lesson last year.
However, no worries here, because Forza releases in October and unless the patch works a miracle, I won't be looking back this year or next.

[jhogan3132]

I agree with ya big guy. I should have learned my lesson last year.
However, no worries here, because Forza releases in October and unless the patch works a miracle, I won't be looking back this year or next.

That's terrible news for stadium sounds. Lol

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[Phobia]

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I am eagerly waiting for FIFA 12 and I think from that point on it will be nothing but Soccer for me. Unless Madden really turns it around, I am done buying football titles. I will stick to the franchises who are doing their work, NBA2k, MLB The Show, and FIFA.

[HHHBigFan]

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All this talk about not buying 13 on Day 1 is fine and well now in August.

But this will mean nothing if your not saying that in July 2012. And unfortunately 99% of people that complain in August still get trigger happy the next July.

[AuburnAlumni]

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All this talk about not buying 13 on Day 1 is fine and well now in August.

But this will mean nothing if your not saying that in July 2012. And unfortunately 99% of people that complain in August still get trigger happy the next July.

Naw man. Considering the level of the debacle pre patch this year, excitement or not...it's pretty easy for me as a grown man to avoid "hunting" and paying 100+ bucks for this game a few days early from release....when in actuality...it's not "complete" until September??

I mean...it's now August 23rd...August twentyfreakingthird...and my OD crew is sitting on its hands waiting for this patch to drop sometime before 2018.

I'm pretty sure I'll be waiting.

[SECElit3]

All this talk about not buying 13 on Day 1 is fine and well now in August.

But this will mean nothing if your not saying that in July 2012. And unfortunately 99% of people that complain in August still get trigger happy the next July.

While I agree with you, this year was different in several respects:

First and foremost, the game is riddled with bugs, some very serious. Several of these bugs make the game unplayable by causing the game to completely freeze. We are unable to play with named rosters because of the tendencies issue and the likelyhood of the game freezing. Online dynasties are falling apart due to members being unable to logon, or worst yet, there are reports of dynasties being lost all together. However, the bigger issue is EAs handling of the situation.

It is clear they do not care about the product they release or the customers who keep them in business. The lack of competition tends to make for a mentality that one is better than he/ she/ it actually is. I have never seen such an arrogance as that which has been displayed by EA this year. It is almost sickening.

It will catch up to them eventually. It is only a matter of time, maybe even as soon as next year.

My advice to EA is to take as much time on the patch as they need to get it right and it be better be a damn good one...

[BaylorBearBryant]

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It's sad that this game won't work like it's supposed to until after the start of college football. Why should I think it'll be any different next year?

I just plan on playing '12 instead of purchasing '13. Won't have to wait for all the bugs to get fixed.

[mcavner]

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I don't think that is true - the trigger finger comment. It may be an age thing, but of my peer group, online and offline, there is very much a move away from day one purchasing and many of them are not purchasing at all. Like the post above states, time is short even if money is not, and if the game is more frustrating than fun and disappointing rather than delivering, well then they'll find something else to fill that void or just... not play video games.
There is a real sense of frustration in the community from some longtime players, and that frustration seems to be of the fed-up variety. For instance, of my core group of players, which was probably 25-30 guys maybe ten yrs ago, we are now down to half a dozen purchasing the game at all this year, and of those I feel like I'm the only guy who even enjoys the game at all - and likely the last planning to buy next year. And for me much of that is still based on what this game might be, should be, post-patch. Sales are made on marketing and reputation. Right now we've got a glitchy game and a community that feels, once again, duped by marketing and our own seemingly endless enthusiasm and optimism for the title's possibility. Last year's title was one of the best versions IMO - I had really hoped they'd picked up some momentum.

[Matty86]

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I won't pick up 2013 until xmas next year. I go back to work full time as a lead cook at a college on Friday so I don't have much time to play during the year. I had really hoped to get some hours out of this game during the summer. Really sucks.

[khaliib]

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I'm of the older crowd also, and tend to make due with things (games) and find some fun in them.

But truth be told, it's just the way this big mess went down and I believe this Tuner/Patch will not be the cure-all we are hoping and just like last year, we "might" get 1 more Tuner if we are lucky, then that's it.

Community will be left high-n-dry like last year.

With that, there's no way I'm buying Madden, even after all the "Rave" reviews that will probably come from folks.
It will have it's yearly issues also, "Guaranteed"!!!

When the shooter's come out, I believe playing time will deminish even more as the issues will not be gone from either game forcing folks to finally throw their hands up and move on.

I'm glad I'm older and video games don't need to be "a must buy".

6 weeks after purchase and there it sits.

[fistofrage]

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I don't think that is true - the trigger finger comment. It may be an age thing, but of my peer group, online and offline, there is very much a move away from day one purchasing and many of them are not purchasing at all. Like the post above states, time is short even if money is not, and if the game is more frustrating than fun and disappointing rather than delivering, well then they'll find something else to fill that void or just... not play video games.
There is a real sense of frustration in the community from some longtime players, and that frustration seems to be of the fed-up variety. For instance, of my core group of players, which was probably 25-30 guys maybe ten yrs ago, we are now down to half a dozen purchasing the game at all this year, and of those I feel like I'm the only guy who even enjoys the game at all - and likely the last planning to buy next year. And for me much of that is still based on what this game might be, should be, post-patch. Sales are made on marketing and reputation. Right now we've got a glitchy game and a community that feels, once again, duped by marketing and our own seemingly endless enthusiasm and optimism for the title's possibility. Last year's title was one of the best versions IMO - I had really hoped they'd picked up some momentum.

It has nothing to do with the money, its the principal and the time and frustration spent trying to correct flaws with sliders that may or may not even work properly.

$60 is really nothing to me in the grand scheme of things. Its a few drinks and a nice steak dinner or a round of golf. If I had the "perfect" college football game, I wouldn't mind paying $200+ for it if it gave me hundreds of hours of enertainment over the course of the year.

But back to the principal....Why should anyone have to pay to be a frustrated beta tester. At the very least, EA should make sure that hi-lighted features work as advertised. Its pretty amazing to me that EA sports doesn't tap this sites resources for beta testers and find these errors before the game is released.

[Old School SD Fan]

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The real frustration aside from no one being open above Frosh level is the OD's. My first one permanently froze after a game in season 2, my 2nd after season 6 or 7. Totally unloadable/unplayable.

That's definitely a "gamebreaker" at least if you want to use one of the most popular features.

I don't feel safe using the bells & whistles - Teambuilder, conference changes, etc because of the freezes.

[cardswin2006]

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It has nothing to do with the money, its the principal and the time and frustration spent trying to correct flaws with sliders that may or may not even work properly.

$60 is really nothing to me in the grand scheme of things. Its a few drinks and a nice steak dinner or a round of golf. If I had the "perfect" college football game, I wouldn't mind paying $200+ for it if it gave me hundreds of hours of enertainment over the course of the year.

But back to the principal....Why should anyone have to pay to be a frustrated beta tester. At the very least, EA should make sure that hi-lighted features work as advertised. Its pretty amazing to me that EA sports doesn't tap this sites resources for beta testers and find these errors before the game is released.

In a sense they are trying that with the Season Pass thing, but you have to pay to be the tester. And even then it's only a lead time of a few days, but it's the same idea. Part of their reasoning was that they will be able to identify issues earlier with this program.

[Bootzilla]

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It has nothing to do with the money, its the principal and the time and frustration spent trying to correct flaws with sliders that may or may not even work properly.

$60 is really nothing to me in the grand scheme of things. Its a few drinks and a nice steak dinner or a round of golf. If I had the "perfect" college football game, I wouldn't mind paying $200+ for it if it gave me hundreds of hours of enertainment over the course of the year.

But back to the principal....Why should anyone have to pay to be a frustrated beta tester. At the very least, EA should make sure that hi-lighted features work as advertised. Its pretty amazing to me that EA sports doesn't tap this sites resources for beta testers and find these errors before the game is released.

$60 bucks for a few drinks and a steak dinner? Wow, sign me up for that!!!!

I totally hear what you're saying and I agree. Generally speaking, the hours of entertainment for the cost in most instances is worth it in my opinion. Heck, games have probably saved me a nice chunk of change that I otherwise would have spent on bar tabs or something, lol.

However, faith that this company can deliver a product without terrible bugs and issues has dwindled to such a low that it has become harder and harder to justify these purchases. And the lack of communication to the loyal customer base is appalling. It's getting old and I'm getting sick of it.

I know it's ridiculous but, EA has me despising a guy I don't even know. I have to chuckle to myself but, every time I see Ben Haumiller he just seems greasier and greasier. Like a used car salesman, haha.