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Quote: Originally Posted by Perfect Zero

I understand that it is just a video game, but at this stage of development it should play a better game. The "Atari" comments make me cringe every time. This isn't 1985 any more, it's 2011, and we should expect better advancements in gaming. I feel that OS did a good job pointing out both sides of the argument, and realize that in today's gaming world, you have to advance realism. I also love the comment "If you want the experiences the writer has nitpicked about, the only way you will ever get it is by actually playing the game of football, not a video counterpart." Unfortunately, I'll never grow a rocket arm, become two inches taller and grow a blue jersey with the name "Manning" on the back of it. Most people want to experience the game with the Colts or Cowboys or whomever. Going out in the back yard and playing toss up isn't going to make me Peyton Manning. Playing video games helps in this experience.

So you don't think Madden 12 is an advancement? It is clearly (IMO going out on a limb based on the demo) going to to the best in the series to date.

Madden 93 was the pinnacle in 1993. Madden 2005 was the pinnacle in the series back in 2004.

Here we are seven years later and I feel we have the best Madden for this gen and maybe ever (I don't know yet as I have not gotten my copy but played the demo and loved it). It took much longer this time in this console generation no doubt. But it is here.

Games today are far more advanced than games from 2005. Sports games have taken a huge leap IMO visually, feel wise, controls as well as AI this gen.

It's not even close. I can't play PS2/XBOX spots games anymore.....just can't do it! Platform, adventure and shooters and RPGs...oh heck yeah I still pop in some old favs all the time, but sports games are average compared to todays offerings. They really is no comparison anymore IMO. I think Sports games in general as well as FPS have made amazing leaps in quality, AI and modes this gen. Yeah bugs are being found...then patched and tuned that is a reality of todays games and cycles. The patch has become a Developers crutch much like instant replay has for NFL officials. So it is a blessing and a curse in that regard. I agree games should ship great out of the box. And most don't seem to anymore. Even the great ones like The Show and 2K11 had a big patch each to correct bugs and glitches.


Come on man. It is getting so lame how critical sports gamers have become!!!

When you played Madden back in 1993.....were you not doing cartwheels?

I was. After growing up with Atari Real Sports and Intellivision then even Tecmo Super Bowl this was a huge leap....HUGE!!!

Now I agree Madden has underwhelmed for some time. But 2010 to now they have really stepped up a lot more. It may not be what you want. But for hardcore Madden fans (which I am) the game is getting better and better.

To each his/her own.


But I think most Gen X guys like me agree.....sports games today are amazing and we are getting so much enjoyment out of them as compared to 5,10,15 and 20 years ago.