EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

**tfctillidie** · 08-27-2011, 10:20 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by bkrich83

Actually I neither disagreed nor trolled. You're simply hyper-sensitive and over value your opinion.

You can't seem to dispute the costs I suggested that exist.

How is that overvaluing an opinion. Get off your high horse and bloody debate my arguments or please, stfu.

Mr. "I've worked on Million Dollar projects", do the costs I suggested not exist in the real world? Or did EA make straight profits on Season Ticket at no cost?

**dickey1331** · 08-27-2011, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by tfctillidie

If I say so?

Are you a kid? Or have you ever worked on a project of this magnitude in the real world?

Stop acting like I'm being some know it all. This isn't hard to wrap your head around.

This project likely took a while to develop and a single developer would bring home 65K a year.

You then have web developers putting in time to support the plan. The time it took to integrate it to the PSN and XBL networks would come at a cost. Pushing 65,000GB of data across their networks would come at a cost. Doing Q/A testing throughout the process would come at a cost.

What about the design phase at the executive level? What about infrastructure costs in supporting the feature? What about the time spent discussing it at events like E3? Their stage time is far from cheap.

Etc. etc. etc.

Yeah I think anyone who's worked a day in the real world would be able to identify these items and realize that this likely didn't generate true profit for EA.

You act like this is the only thing EA does. Yeah I'm sure it cost some money to do this but EA is a large company and probably already had most of those things ready for this. I'm sure EA has its own marketing budget and I highly doubt this cost much. I mean pay the developers? They are gonna get paid rather this thing happened or not.

Do you really care where I sent this from?

**bkrich83** · 08-27-2011, 10:22 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by tfctillidie

You can't seem to dispute the costs I suggested that exist.

How is that overvaluing an opinion. Get off your high horse and bloody debate my arguments or please, stfu.

Mr. "I've worked on Million Dollar projects", do the costs I suggested not exist in the real world? Or what? BLOODY ARGUE THE POINTS AND STOP HIDING BEING THIS GARBAGE.

Yup i am the one on the high horse. I hope someone gives you a hug soon.

**tfctillidie** · 08-27-2011, 10:23 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by dickey1331

You act like this is the only thing EA does. Yeah I'm sure it cost some money to do this but EA is a large company and probably already had most of those things ready for this. I'm sure EA has its own marketing budget and I highly doubt this cost much. I mean pay the developers? They are gonna get paid rather this thing happened or not.

Do you really care where I sent this from?

No I'm not acting like this is the only thing EA does.

This is utterly mindboggling you can't see this. If they used part of whatever budget you are talking about on the Season Ticket project, then the Season Ticket project cost them part of their budget...meaning the project had costs.

Is this really so hard to accept?

**TearsOfPurple** · 08-27-2011, 10:23 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Most game developers, from my research as I aspire to be a game dev, have a salary. They don't get paid hourly. So EA probably used their current staff on this, thus not costing them much, if any money.

**Celtic34** · 08-27-2011, 10:24 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by bkrich83

Actually I neither disagreed nor trolled. You're simply hyper-sensitive and over value your opinion. I suspect low self esteem as the reason for overcompensation.

Dude, no offense but you are a dick and have the lowest self esteem here. Speak for yourself. People like you are pieces of ****. The funny thing is it's true.

**tfctillidie** · 08-27-2011, 10:24 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by bkrich83

Yup i am the one on the high horse. I hope someone gives you a hug soon.

Is this what OS calls a response to an argument? You've yet to counter the point I'm making and continue to just come after me, the person, for whatever reason.

Are you done trolling me? Why are you even responding if you aren't going to talk about this?

**bkrich83** · 08-27-2011, 10:26 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by Celtic34

Dude, no offense but you are a dick and have the lowest self esteem here. Speak for yourself. People like you are pieces of ****. The funny thing is it's true.

Eh. I've been called worse by better people.

**tfctillidie** · 08-27-2011, 10:26 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by TearsOfPurple

Most game developers, from my research as I aspire to be a game dev, have a salary. They don't get paid hourly. So EA probably used their current staff on this, thus not costing them much, if any money.

If someone on salary spends part of that salaried time on a project, then part of their salary is part of the project cost! I mean, ...the heck?

**bkrich83** · 08-27-2011, 10:27 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by tfctillidie

Is this what OS calls a response to an argument? You've yet to counter the point I'm making and continue to just come after me, the person, for whatever reason.

Are you done trolling me? Why are you even responding if you aren't going to talk about this?

Have you actually read any of your responses to me?

**tfctillidie** · 08-27-2011, 10:29 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by bkrich83

Have you actually read any of your responses to me?

I wrote them, so clearly I did. You continue to avoid my initial point (to someone else I might add) that EA didn't make a straight 162K profit and there's costs involved.

I continue to support that argument and you continue to insult me without any attempt at disputing my arguments. That's pretty much all that's happening. I've asked you multiple times to leave me alone if you aren't going to carry on the thread topic discussion, but you seem to ignore that.

I suppose with 63K posts, OS supports your behaviour.

**BigBucs** · 08-27-2011, 10:30 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Some awesome, awesome

ing going on here. Do continue.

**bkrich83** · 08-27-2011, 10:30 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by tfctillidie

I wrote them, so clearly I did. You continue to avoid my initial point (to someone else I might add) that EA didn't make a straight 162K profit and there's costs involved.

I continue to support that argument and you continue to insult me without any attempt at disputing my arguments. That's pretty much all that's happening. I've asked you multiple times to leave me alone if you aren't going to carry on the thread topic discussion, but you seem to ignore that.

I suppose with 63K posts, OS supports your behaviour.

Where did I say EA made a profit? I merely intimated they didn't spend much on marketing.

**Anaxamander** · 08-27-2011, 10:31 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by tfctillidie

If someone on salary spends part of that salaried time on a project, then part of their salary is part of the project cost! I mean, ...the heck?

Except salary doesn't work that way. It would be impossible for me to tell you how much of my salary was devoted to a particular project in any given cycle, because I'm working on several things every day. That's kind of the point of salary--that you're there for whatever comes up, so your cost to the company is static instead of variable.

**tfctillidie** · 08-27-2011, 10:35 PM

Re: EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

Originally posted by bkrich83

Where did I say EA made a profit? I merely intimated they didn't spend much on marketing.

No, that would be when I said I was speaking to someone else who made that claim, before you interjected into the conversation thinking it was all about you and what you thought.

Excuse me while I get off my high horse.

Originally posted by Anaxamander

Except salary doesn't work that way. It would be impossible for me to tell you how much of my salary was devoted to a particular project in any given cycle, because I'm working on several things every day. That's kind of the point of salary--that you're there for whatever comes up, so your cost to the company is static instead of variable.

LOL. I suppose Time Management solutions don't exist in the real world. Nobody in the entire IT world has ever filled out a timesheet before.

EA Sports' Season Ticket Hears Crickets on Debut Day (Kotaku)

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