therizing02's Madden Sliders

[therizing02]

So I've been messing with sliders since Friday in an effort to significantly lower the number WWF hits in the game.

My first move was to lower the gameplay speed to very slow. I started at normal and worked my way down because of the warping hit animations just look God awful.

With the Tackle setting to 5 for both the CPU and USER, the animations are a lot smoother and the WWF tackles have been reduced.

What I found more interesting than all of that was that with the tackle rating so low, the reaction times in all other parts of the game by the CPU were also slowed down. This has had a strange effect on how the CPU plays the run, pass, and it also slows down the pass rush.

I got to the point where I moved my Run Blocking to 0, Break Tackle to 0, moved the CPU Break Block to 50, and Run Reaction to 50 and was still running all over the CPU.

To confirm this I raised the CPU tackle slider to 25, used the Dolphins in a scheduled franchise game against the Patriots and was shut out 16-0 until I moved the slider back to 15 and then promptly marched down the field with 2 consecutive TD drives and miss the 2pt. conversion and lose 16-14.

Can some one else give this a run to see if you experience the same thing.

Per request, here are the last settings I used:

Auto Sprint ON
Auto Strafe OFF

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QBA 20/30
PBL 0/0
WRC 40/40

Broken Tackles 0/0
Run Blocking 0/0
Fumbles40/40

Pass Reaction Time 0/0
INT 20/20
Pass Rush 55/50

Rush Reaction 0/0
Block Shedding 0/0
Tackling 15/15

Speed Threshold 50
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[bukktown]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

Good stuff man. I'm glad to check this out tonight. What do you think I should set it at? 15? 20?

[Playmakers]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

I know in Madden 11 the Tackle slider set low would open the entire CPU playbook for their running game.

I settled with it at default 50 but ultimatley i'm a big believer that the tackle slider in both NCAA Football and Madden should always be set as low as you can tolerate it because the best RB animations are triggered with the lowest tackle slider on display

If you have trouble tackling i'd leave it up high but if you are pretty good or your team is a very good run defensive team i'd reccommend the tackle slider being set around 25 for Human

I haven't tested anything yet with the retail version but in the DEMO version for Maddden 12 i was using these settings

CPU (Everything was default)
Broken Tackles-50
Run Block-50
Fumbles-50

Human
Reaction Time-0
Block Shed-25
Tackle-25

Again that is where i was at when i played the DEMO......I haven't tweaked anything yet for the retail copy

[Jarodd21]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

I know in Madden 11 the Tackle slider set low would open the entire CPU playbook for their running game.

I settled with it at default 50 but ultimatley i'm a big believer that the tackle slider in both NCAA Football and Madden should always be set as low as you can tolerate it because the best RB animations are triggered with the lowest tackle slider on display

If you have trouble tackling i'd leave it up high but if you are pretty good or your team is a very good run defensive team i'd reccommend the tackle slider being set around 25 for Human

I haven't tested anything yet with the retail version but in the DEMO version for Maddden 12 i was using these settings

CPU (Everything was default)
Broken Tackles-50
Run Block-50
Fumbles-50

Human
Reaction Time-0
Block Shed-25
Tackle-25

Again that is where i was at when i played the DEMO......I haven't tweaked anything yet for the retail copy

I see you actually went with an All-Madden USER rush defense. Are you going to have some USER areas on All-Madden this year?

To the OP. On 11 the Tackling slider had a big effect on the reaction of the CPU defense. I did a lot of testing with that. I'm not sure how it is on 12 yet. I've only been messing with the Demo..

[therizing02]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

I know in Madden 11 the Tackle slider set low would open the entire CPU playbook for their running game.

I settled with it at default 50 but ultimatley i'm a big believer that the tackle slider in both NCAA Football and Madden should always be set as low as you can tolerate it because the best RB animations are triggered with the lowest tackle slider on display

If you have trouble tackling i'd leave it up high but if you are pretty good or your team is a very good run defensive team i'd reccommend the tackle slider being set around 25 for Human

I haven't tested anything yet with the retail version but in the DEMO version for Maddden 12 i was using these settings

CPU (Everything was default)
Broken Tackles-50
Run Block-50
Fumbles-50

Human
Reaction Time-0
Block Shed-25
Tackle-25

Again that is where i was at when i played the DEMO......I haven't tweaked anything yet for the retail copy

I keep the Broken Tackles at either 0 or 5. Way too many instances of scat backs running over DeMarcus Ware. With the tackle slider at 0 there are plenty of broken tackles and the animations look more realistic.

Here's what I have right now:

All of these are set to 0 for USER

Pass Block
Run Block
Run and Pass Reaction Time
Broken Tackles


I have the CPU Run Reaction and Block Shedding at 50. If I move the CPU Tackle slider to 0, I will run ragged over the CPU defense. Also, I use the conventional play call method and use Ask Madden. With the Tackle slider at 25, the CPU defense is significantly better at stopping the run, but the animations look awful and the WWF hits return. At 25 the CPU also brings a better pass rush and they defend the pass better. I'm going to experiment at 15.

[Jarodd21]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

I keep the Broken Tackles at either 0 or 5. Way too many instances of scat backs running over DeMarcus Ware. With the tackle slider at 0 there are plenty of broken tackles and the animations look more realistic.

I just bout my USER tackling up to 50 to match the CPU break tackles. It seemed just fine right there.. My USER rush defense look like this..

Reaction- 0
Block Shed- 25
Tackling- 50

I left the CPUs rushing offense on default 50 for everything.. The break tackles were defenitely toned down once I did that but that was with the Demo. I don't know how the game play is with the retail game.. IMO as long as you keep the USER tackling the same as the CPUs break tackles you won't see the crazy break tackling..

[Von Dozier]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

My first move was to lower the gameplay speed to very slow. I started at normal and worked my way down because of the warping hit animations just look God awful.

I'm starting to warm up to "Very Slow" for Madden 12. I've always been a "Slow" player (and i cannot stand 'normal'), but Very Slow is feeling very smooth.

[Anaxamander]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

I want to try it, but I'm confused about your settings. Can you type all of your settings in a list instead of a paragraph?

[therizing02]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

I want to try it, but I'm confused about your settings. Can you type all of your settings in a list instead of a paragraph?

Here's what I used in my last game (Baltimore-20 at Tennessee-28-me)

USER/CPU

QBA 20/40
PBL 0/0
WRC 40/40

Broken Tackles 0/0
Run Blocking 0/0
Fumbles 50/50

Pass Reaction Time 0/0
INT 20/20
Pass Rush 50/50

Rush Reaction 0/50
Block Shedding 50/50
Tackling 15/15

Speed Threshold 50

Chris Johnson had 53 yards on 20 carries. Ray Rice had 89 yards on 21 carries. Hasselbeck was 10-21 and Flacco was 21-38. Tennessee had 1 sack and Baltimore had 3.

I'm going to keep these settings for 5 games and see if there's a difference.

[therizing02]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

Next Game.....

New Orleans 24
Chicago (me) 10

Brees 13-19-260-3TDS
Cutler 14-27-167-1TD 2INT

Ingram 17 carries 90 yards
Forte 17 carries 79 yards

NO-5 sacks
Bears-3 sacks

[JohnDoe8865]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

Good thread. I'm glad to see Playmakers is interested in it too. One of the 1st things I noticed in the demo was the big wwf type shoulder block tackles and very few wrap tackles. I was hoping this could be addressed with either sliders or attribute changes.

[Jarodd21]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

Here's what I used in my last game (Baltimore-20 at Tennessee-28-me)

USER/CPU

QBA 20/40
PBL 0/0
WRC 40/40

Broken Tackles 0/0
Run Blocking 0/0
Fumbles 50/50

Pass Reaction Time 0/0
INT 20/20
Pass Rush 50/50

Rush Reaction 0/50
Block Shedding 50/50
Tackling 15/15

Speed Threshold 50

Chris Johnson had 53 yards on 20 carries. Ray Rice had 89 yards on 21 carries. Hasselbeck was 10-21 and Flacco was 21-38. Tennessee had 1 sack and Baltimore had 3.

I'm going to keep these settings for 5 games and see if there's a difference.

These actually look like some decent looking all-madden sliders. You should post them at the top of your page in your first post so people can try them out or start your own personal thread with them..

[therizing02]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

These actually look like some decent looking all-madden sliders. You should post them at the top of your page in your first post so people can try them out or start your own personal thread with them..

Thanks J. Gonna play a few more games to see if I get a good variance of results before posting.

[Jarodd21]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

Thanks J. Gonna play a few more games to see if I get a good variance of results before posting.

Yeah when I get the game Tuesday I'm going to be on it all day getting my sliders together. I already have a little base set from the Demo but I don't know if the gameplay is different with the retail version so I'll see how it is once I grab it.. Some of my friends will probably come over too so I can get a different look from other people..

[therizing02]

Re: Tackle Slider is the key to all defensive reactions

Another game......

Dallas (me) 24 San Francisco 17

Romo 15-21-203-3TDs-INT
Kaepernick 23-34-365-2TDs-INT

Felix 21-57
Gore 18-53

Sacks
Dallas-3
San Fran-2

The game winner to the newly acquired Randle El.....

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Need to play two more games before making any changes.