My worst fears confirmed.

[DCEBB2001]

Upon renting the game I have found that not only did EA change the calculations for calculating the OVR ratings, but they also changed the attribute scale from 12 to 99 to 0 to 99. That means that FBG will have to re-calibrate all of the hard data, scouting data, etc. In essence, FBG will be shut down for Madden 12. All of the data points for every single attribute will have to be redone and re-calculated. Just when you think you have everything down, EA defies logic and changes things up on me. Not cool. Sorry to those who have been following the site, but there is nothing I can do at this point. Look for FBG ratings to be back in 2013.

[bingo911]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

omg. that is so horrible. its unplayable.

[DCEBB2001]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

omg. that is so horrible. its unplayable.

May as well be I guess. Not that I was goona BUY the game this year anyway, but it does put a damper on what I had going.

[Scott]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

Upon renting the game I have found that not only did EA change the calculations for calculating the OVR ratings, but they also changed the attribute scale from 12 to 99 to 0 to 99. That means that FBG will have to re-calibrate all of the hard data, scouting data, etc. In essence, FBG will be shut down for Madden 12. All of the data points for every single attribute will have to be redone and re-calculated. Just when you think you have everything down, EA defies logic and changes things up on me. Not cool. Sorry to those who have been following the site, but there is nothing I can do at this point. Look for FBG ratings to be back in 2013.

Wow, very disappointing. Oh well.

[bigcdiddy16]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

Too convenient. Probably means you got hired.

[premierplayer]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

if your dealing with a database filled with numbers and formulas shouldnt you be able to easily adjust them? especially if the scale just went from 12-99 to 0-99.. so thats 12 pt difference? seems like it wouldnt be too much more work to alter the formula and then plug it in... just sayin.

[DCEBB2001]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

Too convenient. Probably means you got hired.

No, I did not yet get hired. And even if I do, that doesn't mean that the site will go away.

[DCEBB2001]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

if your dealing with a database filled with numbers and formulas shouldnt you be able to easily adjust them? especially if the scale just went from 12-99 to 0-99.. so thats 12 pt difference? seems like it wouldnt be too much more work to alter the formula and then plug it in... just sayin.

Perhaps I should explain it like this. You had a range from 99 to 12. Now that range is from 99 to 0. That means that every attribute (some 50+) needs to be re-scaled according to the scouting data. So instead of having 88 increments, I now have 100 increments. That changes the numbers at the top and bottom...for 17190 players. That means I have to re-calculate approx 860000 individual numbers...that's right, almost 1 MILLION numbers. That, to do it correctly, takes a long, long time. How do I know? Because I have done it once before already.

[soxfan2815]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

You are doing the Lord's work brother. That's some dedication!

[NICKx84]

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Sorry if im late to the party but what is FBG???

[BParis]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

Sorry if im late to the party but what is FBG???

I do not know what it is either, but this has me worried that maybe other things will be different. I worry that maybe my toliet may not slosh down clockwise anymore for example. I'll check that first thing in the morning. Back to bed now.

[steelers1]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

Perhaps I should explain it like this. You had a range from 99 to 12. Now that range is from 99 to 0. That means that every attribute (some 50+) needs to be re-scaled according to the scouting data. So instead of having 88 increments, I now have 100 increments. That changes the numbers at the top and bottom...for 17190 players. That means I have to re-calculate approx 860000 individual numbers...that's right, almost 1 MILLION numbers. That, to do it correctly, takes a long, long time. How do I know? Because I have done it once before already.

Yeah, but if you are using some sort of spreadsheets you can easily fix it. You won't get whole numbers, so you will have to have the program round it for you (like in Excel you just set all the cells to 0 decimal places or use the ROUND function).

The equation for rescaling would be this:

Xnew=99*(Xold-12)/87

(so if the old rating, Xold happened to be 99, the new rating, Xnew, would still be 99. If Xold was 12, it would now be 0, and all the ratings in between would also be rescaled.)

If you are using Excel, you could copy your spreadsheet to another page, delete all the rating values from it, put this: '=99*(Xold-12)/87' into the first cell that you deleted (for example, you would put it into the cell for Husain Abdullah's speed in the new sheet, where Xold would be the old rating which you would reference from the other sheet). You could then just drag and fill the rest of the ratings without anymore work.

If you did ratings by position, then that just means a little more work, but by no means should you have to go through all the ratings.

And if you aren't using Excel, I'm sure there are similar tricks you can use.

EDIT: To have it round the number, you would just use this equation

=ROUND(99*(Xold-12)/87,0)

[Ricanlegend]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

OMG how will i ever live without FBG ? lmao who cares

[steelers1]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

OMG how will i ever live without FBG ? lmao who cares

The guys who spent hours and hours working on the data care. It doesn't matter if you plan to use it or not (I didn't really know about it until now), but it would suck to think you wasted so much time.

[KingDeDeDe]

Re: My worst fears confirmed.

Yeah, but if you are using some sort of spreadsheets you can easily fix it. You won't get whole numbers, so you will have to have the program round it for you (like in Excel you just set all the cells to 0 decimal places or use the ROUND function).

The equation for rescaling would be this:

Xnew=99*(Xold-12)/87

(so if the old rating, Xold happened to be 99, the new rating, Xnew, would still be 99. If Xold was 12, it would now be 0, and all the ratings in between would also be rescaled.)

If you are using Excel, you could copy your spreadsheet to another page, delete all the rating values from it, put this: '=99*(Xold-12)/87' into the first cell that you deleted (for example, you would put it into the cell for Husain Abdullah's speed in the new sheet, where Xold would be the old rating which you would reference from the other sheet). You could then just drag and fill the rest of the ratings without anymore work.

If you did ratings by position, then that just means a little more work, but by no means should you have to go through all the ratings.

And if you aren't using Excel, I'm sure there are similar tricks you can use.

EDIT: To have it round the number, you would just use this equation

=ROUND(99*(Xold-12)/87,0)

The problem is that you have no idea whether or not these numbers will correspond properly to the previous numbers in terms of gameplay. You have to recalibrate the entire system.