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  • schnaidt1
    All Star
    • Sep 2008
    • 5213

    #1

    m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

    ******this is now version 3.1******!!

    These sliders are intended for Franchise play, if you arent seeing the results you like from play now games, this is why. for further info regarding the potential of these sliders in a franchise format, please see here:

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-sliders.html

    Version 3.1 update notes:

    the Cpu pass game was very hit or miss. even playing a very good qb wouldnt result in consistent stats by them. the adjustments made fix that.

    also the cpu completion percentage was pretty low. I noticed that this was because of alot of drops made my the wrs from hits and etc. to fix this and up the completion percentage, the cpu catch slider has been raised and works great.

    the cpu blocking worked well against vanilla defense, but when using a complex defense like rex ryans or dom capers... it was still easy to sack the qb 5 times a game.

    interceptions were too high for both teams, thats been fixed.

    user run game has been toned to be less effective because of broken tackles

    fatigue has been raised to get a more realistic feel of substitutions

    threshold has been lowered slightly because lineman were catching rbs from behind on hand offs too easily

    to get the best results. follow these steps.

    1. if these are too easy for you, i apologize. i am good at madden, not effing amazing

    2. these will be fun if you do not cheese by always throwing to your slot or running slants all day long.

    3. if your offensive line is pretty good, like all are mid 80's or higher. knock pass blocking down 3 points. anything else keep it the same.

    4. if your running back is below a 80. running the ball will be hard, unless ur o line is amazing. in the case ur o line is mediocre/average with a young back who aint good yet, run it for the sake of running it. and draws are your best friends.

    5. play action blocking actually works. it works best on down and distance the cpu is not expecting it.

    6. these should be used with a gameflow to help make sure you dont cheese when ur tempted.

    7. i am using blaine gabbert in my chise. he is a 75. if you use a qb who is a 85 or higher, drop qb accuracy by 4 points. if ur qb is 90 or higher. drop by 8 points.


    8. play a hard team first, or a team with a good defense and qb. playing a easier team will give u a false idea of these sliders. these are intended for franchise play where dpp is in full effect.

    okay the sliders are based on all pro.

    the updates from version 2.1 are in BOLD

    11 min quarters. play clock rundown to 20 sec.

    game speed very slow ( highly important)

    threshold-30
    fatigue-65

    User/cpu

    Accuracy=34/46
    pass blocking=42/39
    catching=43/46

    broken tackles=39/33
    run blocking=40/44
    fumbles=35/33

    pass D reaction time=26/39
    interceptions=29/31
    pass rushing=31/32

    Rush D reaction time= 33/44
    block shedding=37/35
    tackling=29/33

    penalties

    offsides=90
    false start=70
    holding=54
    facemask=57
    clipping=53
    roughing pass=54

    all others 100

    kickoff power=55

    field goal and punting power= 55

    field goal and punting accuracy= 40

    9/12/11-I've decided to add my much requested auto sub sliders, here ya go!

    QB:60/80
    RB:87/92
    WR:86/92
    TE:75/84
    OL:60/80

    DT:84/89
    DE:84/89
    LB:82/87
    CB:76/85
    S:82/88
    Make sure you read steps 1 through 8 when putting in your sliders and before playing. it is crucial to a successful game.

    okay let me know how it goes. depeding on your teams or your talent level these may be too hard or too easy. hopefully just right. i ask that you give them at least 2 games against 2 opposite style teams so you can get a feel before you leave your thoughts.

    and as always your thoughts and comments and CONSTRUCTIVE criticism are welcome!!

    enjoy!!
    Last edited by schnaidt1; 09-12-2011, 05:17 PM. Reason: ADDING AUTO SUBS
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  • schnaidt1
    All Star
    • Sep 2008
    • 5213

    #2
    Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

    anyone who tries these...please come on and give me any feed back and game details you have. make sure u mention if it was a franchise game or a play now game.

    this is highly important to me as i strive to make the best sliders possible. i have played over 35 games since saturday....

    so trust me. i am working hard to provide the best! thank you!
    Last edited by schnaidt1; 08-31-2011, 05:50 PM.
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    • TheEdgeOfSoul
      Rookie
      • Apr 2005
      • 60

      #3
      Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

      I just finished a game with these updated sliders, Cincinnati at Chicago. I figured I'd go ahead and play a team ranked higher than Cincy to see if there would be some added challenge there and in a potentially hostile environment. This game looks a lot closer on the scoreboard than it should have been on the field.

      Cincinnati 0-17-7-3=27
      Chicago 7-3-0-14=24

      Mike Nugent won the game on a FG as time expired, his second FG in three attempts. His one missed FG hit the crossbar from 53 yards out. Cincy got the ball back at the 3:51 mark and never relinquished it, setting up that game-winning 31-yard FG. The Bengals led 24-10 going into the 4th. A fumble by Benson gave the Bears good field position en route to their second TD, making it 24-17. Cutler would add another TD pass nearly five minutes later tying the game.

      In terms of team stats, Cincy outgained Chicago 417-305. Dalton threw for 225 yards (19-25, TD) while Cutler gained 175 (17-26, 2 TD) in the air. Benson ran for 201 yards on 27 carries (7.4 YPC, long of 79), Forte 139 (7.5 YPC, long of 25) on 18 carries. Jerome Simpson led all receivers with 9 REC for 121 yards and a TD.

      I would be ecstatic if Dalton had a completion percentage of 76% in any game. Hell, I would have loved it of Carson had those kinds of numbers during his tenure as Cincy's starting QB! Dalton's numbers again appear to be somewhat unrealistic, especially for a rookie QB rated at 71 overall. I'm also a bit concerned about the high YPC as well for both teams. Both featured backs averaged well over 7 yards per carry. I was otherwise satisfied with everything else.

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      • schnaidt1
        All Star
        • Sep 2008
        • 5213

        #4
        Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

        Originally posted by TheEdgeOfSoul
        I just finished a game with these updated sliders, Cincinnati at Chicago. I figured I'd go ahead and play a team ranked higher than Cincy to see if there would be some added challenge there and in a potentially hostile environment. This game looks a lot closer on the scoreboard than it should have been on the field.

        Cincinnati 0-17-7-3=27
        Chicago 7-3-0-14=24

        Mike Nugent won the game on a FG as time expired, his second FG in three attempts. His one missed FG hit the crossbar from 53 yards out. Cincy got the ball back at the 3:51 mark and never relinquished it, setting up that game-winning 31-yard FG. The Bengals led 24-10 going into the 4th. A fumble by Benson gave the Bears good field position en route to their second TD, making it 24-17. Cutler would add another TD pass nearly five minutes later tying the game.

        In terms of team stats, Cincy outgained Chicago 417-305. Dalton threw for 225 yards (19-25, TD) while Cutler gained 175 (17-26, 2 TD) in the air. Benson ran for 201 yards on 27 carries (7.4 YPC, long of 79), Forte 139 (7.5 YPC, long of 25) on 18 carries. Jerome Simpson led all receivers with 9 REC for 121 yards and a TD.

        I would be ecstatic if Dalton had a completion percentage of 76% in any game. Hell, I would have loved it of Carson had those kinds of numbers during his tenure as Cincy's starting QB! Dalton's numbers again appear to be somewhat unrealistic, especially for a rookie QB rated at 71 overall. I'm also a bit concerned about the high YPC as well for both teams. Both featured backs averaged well over 7 yards per carry. I was otherwise satisfied with everything else.
        thanks for trying these also! i am glad you enjoyed these more...

        i still stand by the running. try them in franchise wehre u got dpp for o line and stuff. its not as crazy high. i promise
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        • schnaidt1
          All Star
          • Sep 2008
          • 5213

          #5
          Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

          i will post stats of a game i just played. the bills vs redskins in week 7 of my chise.

          i won 41-13 but the score is greatly misleading. i was up 7-3 late in 2nd quarter. i scored a td to go up by 14....2 plays later i stripped and returned a fumble for a td to go up by 3 scored. after that they had zero momentum.

          yardage wise. gabbert was 19-29 with 241 yards 1td 0 picks
          grossman was 12-26 with 240 (busted play for a long td pass) with 1 td and 2 picks. i knocked him out and clemens came in. he was 1 for 4 for 10 yards.

          rushing i owned mostly cuz i knocked ryan torain out for 2 quarters and they got away from the ground game. hightower was 4-24 tho.

          for me, my 3 backs went 14-62, 13-52, and 8-50 totalling 3 touchdowns.

          they had three costly turnovers i had zero. total offense i had 398, they had 289.

          3rd down they were 5-10 i was 7-11


          the score is really from the turnovers. i got ahead early and they all got cold dpp and they had no chance.
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          • schnaidt1
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            • Sep 2008
            • 5213

            #6
            Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

            fyi first time i played this game... had to restart after it froze with 1:45 left trying to save a highlight

            i was driving down 17-10


            oh and from the above game, they also missed a fieldgoal and i blocked a field goal as well
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            • Xotros
              Pro
              • Jan 2011
              • 565

              #7
              Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

              Hopefully these are a bit more difficult than the last ones. Check your other thread for my notes on that. I'll try these a bit later, I am very optimistic though.
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              • schnaidt1
                All Star
                • Sep 2008
                • 5213

                #8
                Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

                Originally posted by Xotros
                Hopefully these are a bit more difficult than the last ones. Check your other thread for my notes on that. I'll try these a bit later, I am very optimistic though.
                i just lost 17-13 to the jets...

                they owned me in every way....i was only in the game cuz i picked off sanchez 4 times. they got 1 pic on me...but that was as time expired i threw a ball in the endzone trying to win.
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                • Xotros
                  Pro
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 565

                  #9
                  Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

                  I just did a game with these. Me (Dolphins) vs CPU (Falcons) and it was a 20-13 win for me. I definitely like these better. Henne couldn't get anything consistent going, and I was lucky to hold them just out of FG range a few times. It was a nice defensive battle. Both teams failing on 3rd down a lot. It actually was tied 13-13 and a completed Hail Mary pass from midfield as time expired won it for me. The running game felt great, tackles were less brute and more realistic, and you could tell the difference between Henne and Ryan. If it weren't for a redzone pick by Ryan and a redzone fumble by Weems, I would have lost for sure. I didn't pull stats from this one but I'll do one tomorrow and compile a table.
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                  • schnaidt1
                    All Star
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 5213

                    #10
                    Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

                    Originally posted by Xotros
                    I just did a game with these. Me (Dolphins) vs CPU (Falcons) and it was a 20-13 win for me. I definitely like these better. Henne couldn't get anything consistent going, and I was lucky to hold them just out of FG range a few times. It was a nice defensive battle. Both teams failing on 3rd down a lot. It actually was tied 13-13 and a completed Hail Mary pass from midfield as time expired won it for me. The running game felt great, tackles were less brute and more realistic, and you could tell the difference between Henne and Ryan. If it weren't for a redzone pick by Ryan and a redzone fumble by Weems, I would have lost for sure. I didn't pull stats from this one but I'll do one tomorrow and compile a table.


                    awesome, the more feedback the better.

                    i want ppl to want to give these a try
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                    • tril
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 2914

                      #11
                      Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

                      these are good sliders. only changes I made is I made both the cpu/users sliders the same. and I went with the higher value.
                      I also has threshhold at 65. the higher the value the more realistic the seperation.

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                      • schnaidt1
                        All Star
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 5213

                        #12
                        Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

                        Originally posted by tril
                        these are good sliders. only changes I made is I made both the cpu/users sliders the same. and I went with the higher value.
                        I also has threshhold at 65. the higher the value the more realistic the seperation.
                        did u play a game first before u made the slider changes or just did it right away?
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                        • robert429
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 118

                          #13
                          Sliders won't be difficult enough. I tried some similar to these and ended up bumping CPU accuracy to 80 along with other stuff. Trying allmadden sliders now.

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                          • tril
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 2914

                            #14
                            Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

                            Originally posted by schnaidt1
                            did u play a game first before u made the slider changes or just did it right away?
                            right away. only issues so far are with the fumbles.

                            I might have to increase fumble. I like having to cover the ball (R1) when going through the hole or being tackeled.

                            not enough penalties and auto subs.
                            and the line play, Im starting to figure this out. so I might have to make it a bit more difficult.


                            other than that the play is fine by me.

                            Ill post more findings in after a few more games. I dont mess with sldiers for about a good amount of games.

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                            • schnaidt1
                              All Star
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 5213

                              #15
                              Re: m12 very slow gameplay(updated)

                              weird cuz im seeing a fumble at least once a game

                              im the 6th most penalized team in the league...there are plenty of penalties

                              for subs turn ur fatigue up to 60 and set ur sub in at a higher value.

                              my spell back gets around 8-11 carries a game
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