NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Debate

[CelticPride101]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

Calm down. Nobody ever said or acted like that.

I'm calm man, it's all good

btw y'all should check the thread that somebody made about the 86 Cs in the pro basketball section

[coolcras7]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

that's like saying I believe in my eyes and I never saw Jordan winning against those 80's teams, don't act like MJ never lost nothing

you can't help who you play of course but if you play weaker teams you got a better chance of winning, 96 Bulls in the 80's don't win 72 games period... compare the 80's teams against the 90's teams
you got some really good teams in the 90's but they don't compare to the 80's C's, showtime Lakers, fo-fo-fo Sixers, badboys Pistons, 80's Bucks... and also taking in account that some major 90's teams were already formed or almost formed in the 80's

BadBoy Piston existed in the 90's, then you had the Jazz, The Knicks, The Sonics, The Suns, The Rockets, The Spurs,The Pacers so don't give me that there was no competition in the 90's or that the 80's were superior to the 90's BS.

[jd@os]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

I'm calm man, it's all good

btw y'all should check the thread that somebody made about the 86 Cs in the pro basketball section

I'm good. No need to check it. I did say in my post that I thought the '86 Celtics were better than the '96 Bulls.

[lofeazy]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

Like I said in other thread:

[quote]Even thought I am not a Rockets fan(GO Spurs best team TX)I still say this team (95 rockets) could have beat any of the Bulls champonship teams.(IMO)IMO to me 94 & 95 Rockets was the best team in the 90's.(Running to bomb shelter.)[quote]

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Also, with the 95 Hakeem Rockets he averaged 33 ppg in the playoffs and had multiple 40 point games (5) in their title run that year and scored over 35 (5) times, as well as 30 or more (6) times. Thats 16 games over 30ppg out of 22 total games in the playoffs.

IMO the best center to ever play the game and this was one of the best individual playoff performances ever. He was absolutely DOMINATING that year in the playoffs! Even more impressive is he did it all going up against Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, David Robinson, and Shaquille Oneal who are all Hall of Famers!
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I agree! I always thought that as well. I don't think the Bulls could have dealt with Hakeem. Every team the Bulls ever played in the Finals never had a dominate center they had to go against. Vlade, K. Duckworth, M. West, Ervin Johnson, and G Ostertag? LOL! They would have had there hands full with "The Dream"![qoute]


To me the Bulls played Bad Teams in the Finals.(Match up in the finals Favored the Bulls heavely.)

To me, I still haven't seen a great all-time basketball team Yet.(I seen alot of great players-MJ,Magic,Bird,The dream........)(Running to Bomb shelter)

[CelticPride101]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

BadBoy Piston existed in the 90's, then you had the Jazz, The Knicks, The Sonics, The Suns, The Rockets, The Spurs,The Pacers so don't give me that their was no competition in the 90's or that the 80's were superior the 90's BS.

no BS, it's a fact... Pistons were done in the 90's, same for the Lakers and the Celtics
and two can play that game, the Jazz were already there in the 80's, the Rockets had a great team in the 80's also, Barkley was already rocking thins in the 80's, the Knicks were not bad also, plus you got all those other great teams
tell me this when discussions about the best teams of all time pop up, how many 90's are mentioned? as for the 80's you got always at least 4 teams

[jd@os]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

I know it's just the regular season, but the Bulls did beat the Rockets twice by double digits just one year later in 1996. No reason to think MJ wouldn't have stepped his game up in the Finals against them. They would've had no answer for The Dream, but Idk who would have stopped MJ and Pip.

[magicman32]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

BadBoy Piston existed in the 90's, then you had the Jazz, The Knicks, The Sonics, The Suns, The Rockets, The Spurs,The Pacers so don't give me that there was no competition in the 90's or that the 80's were superior to the 90's BS.

There was also The Orlando Magic with Shaq and Penny. And the Heat were a strong team in the mid 90's.

[CelticPride101]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

I'm good. No need to check it. I did say in my post that I thought the '86 Celtics were better than the '96 Bulls.

I also said it's all speculation though because they never went head-to-head, I'm just stating my thoughts, not only for the 86 C's but I also feel the same way for the 87 Lakers

[jd@os]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

I also said it's all speculation though because they never went head-to-head, I'm just stating my thoughts, not only for the 86 C's but I also feel the same way for the 87 Lakers

I said they were better than the '96 Bulls, too.

[CelticPride101]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

all those 90's teams y'all mentioned don't reach top teams discussions everytime almost like a fact as oppose to the 87 Lakers, 83 Sixers, 86 Celtics and 89 Pistons
I'm not saying there was no competition in the 90's, you got plenty of really good teams but you also had, due to the expansion mostly, a lot of bad teams, really a lot... in the 80's you got all those top teams all-time and also other really good teams all around, including some that would become among the best in the 90's

[coolcras7]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

no BS, it's a fact... Pistons were done in the 90's, same for the Lakers and the Celtics
and two can play that game, the Jazz were already there in the 80's, the Rockets had a great team in the 80's also, Barkley was already rocking thins in the 80's, the Knicks were not bad also, plus you got all those other great teams
tell me this when discussions about the best teams of all time pop up, how many 90's are mentioned? as for the 80's you got always at least 4 teams

And when the discussion comes up of the greatest player and best team to ever play you have one player in both discussions Michael Jordan, The 80's Celtics and Lakers were stacked no disagreement there and the game was more about fundamentals, in the Late 80' to the present the game evolved where you did not need an entire team of great players to win, you needed 2 stars/scoring options and role players because of the leap in athletic individuals.

[coolcras7]

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all those 90's teams y'all mentioned don't reach top teams discussions everytime almost like a fact as oppose to the 87 Lakers, 83 Sixers, 86 Celtics and 89 Pistons
I'm not saying there was no competition in the 90's, you got plenty of really good teams but you also had, due to the expansion mostly, a lot of bad teams, really a lot... in the 80's you got all those top teams all-time and also other really good teams all around, including some that would become among the best in the 90's

Your argument fails for one reason all the teams you mentions won the championship that year, the reason the 90's only had 3 was because of 1 Michael Jordan and the Bulls, the Bulls winning 6 in 8 years is the reason a lot of great teams will never got the respect the deserve you can't just claim that to be a great team you need to win it all, every year you had more than a handful of teams fighting for the championship.

[CelticPride101]

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And when the discussion comes up of the greatest player and best team to ever play you have one player in both discussions Michael Jordan, The 80's Celtics and Lakers were stacked no disagreement there and the game was more about fundamentals, in the Late 80' to the present the game evolved where you did not need an entire team of great players to win, you needed 2 stars/scoring options and role players because of the leap in athletic individuals.

I'm talking about teams here and you can also have Magic, Kareem or Bird in those discussions, I'm not even getting into all that... and you got Jordan, a player, in best teams discussion?

as for the rest of your post I just laugh and I not gonna bother to answer because it didn't make no sense to me...
"the game evolved where you did not need an entire team of great players to win, you needed 2 stars/scoring options and role players because of the leap in athletic individuals"

[CelticPride101]

Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

Your argument fails for one reason all the teams you mentions won the championship that year, the reason the 90's only had 3 was because of 1 Michael Jordan and the Bulls, the Bulls winning 6 in 8 years is the reason a lot of great teams will never got the respect the deserve you can't just claim that to be a great team you need to win it all.

the Celtics and the Lakers won multiples, same for the Pistons, the Sixers dominated and still contended while they could... they dominated and conteded, they had a great team all-around, in a era full of great teams
they didn't even win a title, they didn't dominate, they couldn't compare to the best 80's teams, only the Bulls can, they were really good but not all time good, add that to the bunch of bad teams the 90's had

[magicman32]

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all those 90's teams y'all mentioned don't reach top teams discussions everytime almost like a fact as oppose to the 87 Lakers, 83 Sixers, 86 Celtics and 89 Pistons
I'm not saying there was no competition in the 90's, you got plenty of really good teams but you also had, due to the expansion mostly, a lot of bad teams, really a lot... in the 80's you got all those top teams all-time and also other really good teams all around, including some that would become among the best in the 90's

There were more bad teams in the 80's than in the 90's. The east was tougher in the 80's too by a wide margin. I love the showtime lakers and I don't think the 96 bulls can beat that team. But the celtics and the lakers owned the 80's and there were plenty of horrible teams in the 80's. There may not have been as many All-Time Great teams in the 90's, however the 90's, especially the early 90's was more balanced and was far from watered down.

2001 to 2008 was watered down also IMO. The league is now at a place were there are more strong teams and players.