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    • Aug 2010
    • 600

    #106
    Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

    This is going to be a long debate for sure.
    Wouldn't it be better if there's a poll where we can pick the team of our choice and somehow "end" this unending debate?

    Dr. J
    1976_Bird 1986_Magic 1987_Chuck 1993_Pip 1994_MJ 1996_GP 1996_Shaq 2000_AI 2001_Kobe 2006

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    • crandolph
      Rookie
      • Jul 2010
      • 157

      #107
      Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

      People:

      The game of basketball is about one thing: Match-Ups. Ive scanned most all the posts, but i havent seen the ONE team that I believe was the best -- 2000-2001 LA Lakers. Let me preface, i am by NO means a Laker fan, but this team would be the most dangerous team to ever walk-up against in a fantasy, greatest team ever tourney. Comparing the regular seasons, the Bulls, BY FAR were the better regular season team (56wins LA to 72wins CHI). Will say this though, Shaq missed 8 regular season games and Kobe missed 14. The playoffs is where the Lakers have the edge over the Bulls. I can hear you guys now, "Bulls only lost two more game than the Lakers!" Here's the kicker, look at the 3 teams the Lakers SWEPT to get to the Finals. Just go look at the rosters (crazy good teams). To finalize this debate, the biggest difference maker (it pains me to say) is Shaquille O'Neal. In the 2000-2001 playoffs, he AVERAGED 31ppg 15rbg and shot 55%. The 95-96 Bulls had NO ONE that could match Shaq when he wanted to actually try hard and play. In the '01 Playoffs, he wanted to play. Oh yea, and the 00-01 Lakers also had the best all-around player in the league, Kobe Bryant. In the 00-01 playoffs, he AVERAGED 29ppg 7reb and 6ast..............Now, lets go back to my original argument: MATCH-UPS

      Each position will be discussed and assigned 1pt for each winner
      PG
      CHI - Ron Harper (0pt)
      LAL - Ron Harper (0pt)
      *Edge: PUSH -- Harper was more athletic with Bulls, but a better shooter/role player with the Lakers

      SG
      CHI - Michael Jordan (.5pt)
      LAL - Kobe Bryant
      *Edge: Jordan by a smaller margin the many would believe. Kobe i dont believe could guard Jordan because Jordan would use his new found post moves on Bryant and eat him up all day down low. On the other hand, Jordan would be just a step to slow to guard the 22yr old Bryant. Jordan gets the Edge cause of his guile and basketball wisdom.

      SF
      CHI - Scottie Pippen (1pt)
      LAL - Rick Fox
      *Edge: Also closer than you may think, but not like SG. Pippen is the more talented player, by far, BUT he would have ALOT more assignments and responsibilites in the fantasy match-up. Pippen would be the Bulls #2 scorer, ball-handler, post double teamer, etc... Fox would only have to worry about two things. 1) Playing lock down "D" (which he was better than most remember) and 2) hitting the open 3's.

      PF
      CHI - Dennis Rodman (.5pt)
      LAL - Horace Grant
      *Edge: Goes the Rodman by a hair. Grant would be determined to perform to his best to show CHI what they could have had all those years, but it still wouldnt be enough. Rodman would be too energetic and still plays pretty good "D" in his aging 34yr old body.

      C
      CHI - Luc Longley
      LAL - Shaquille O'Neal (2pt)
      *Edge: Really?!? Like i stated earlier, when Shaq wants to play, (and he did in 00-01) no one could have ever stopped him. He was just too big, quick, and smart (no..really!). Shaq would average 40 and 17 versus this 95-96 Bulls team, easy. AND, if they doubled him, he could pass it out to Kobe, Brain Shaw, Derek Fisher or.............the X-FACTOR..........

      Robert Horry. I know it sounds weird, but he is the reason the 00-01 Lakers would overcome the 95-96 Bulls. Yes, he was "older" but the dude was still only 30 and still had most all of his athletic weapons plus, the most ice-cold veins in NBA history.



      THOUGHTS???????

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      • CableGuy
        Rookie
        • Aug 2011
        • 292

        #108
        Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

        For a second I thought he was going to talk about someone other then himself. I'll pretend like it's all about team than I'll mention all the teams that I was on and flash my rings, I am Michael Jordan the Greatest of All Time.... smug bastard.

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        • CelticPride101
          Rookie
          • Sep 2011
          • 91

          #109
          Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

          Originally posted by 23
          I honestly dont care for this discussion but im warning everyone in here right now, that if you cannot make your point without degrading other people's opinions and continually referencing them as being ignorant because they dont agree with you, then you will be taking a long break from the forums
          never meant that in a derogatory way, just saying that it sounds like he didn't know what he was talking about, nothing more, nothing personal, just a debate

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          • CelticPride101
            Rookie
            • Sep 2011
            • 91

            #110
            Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

            Originally posted by CableGuy
            For a second I thought he was going to talk about someone other then himself. I'll pretend like it's all about team than I'll mention all the teams that I was on and flash my rings, I am Michael Jordan the Greatest of All Time.... smug bastard.
            fo real lmao, Jordan's gonna be Jordan... that's why he was such a fierce competitor also though

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            • wizzleman
              Banned
              • Sep 2010
              • 642

              #111
              Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

              The 2012 Miami Heat will be best team ever (mark my words)

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              • WindyCityFanatic
                Banned
                • Jun 2011
                • 230

                #112
                Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                Originally posted by wizzleman
                The 2012 Miami Heat will be best team ever (mark my words)



                Do you have any more? lol


                and for the discussion I think the only reason why people say that the 95-96 bulls aren't the greatest is because they are really just haters and for people saying that you cant really account the record. If you don't then why even play the game? Why even tally up all the points in a game? I think that the greatest record of all time says it all.

                72-10


                nuff' said.

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                • JerseySuave4
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 5152

                  #113
                  Originally posted by mjwizzle
                  I can see bill russell makin a video next????? Bill does have 11 rings many forget that. MJ is the greatest basketball player of all time!!! Many don't know that Bill Russell is the GREATEST CHAMPION of all time 11 rings Come on No arguing with that one. Not a opinion either its a fact
                  Come on, look at the evolution of athletes. The guys Russell played against would be bench players during Jordan's era and today. Just look at how the size of athletes has changed. Russell barely had anyone that could match him in size, the league had a lot fewer teams so its no shock that he won that many rings. These days you have near 7 footers like Dirk & Durant or 6'8 guys like Lebron who can shoot and handle like a PG/SG. Imagine if Lebron played in that era, he'd dominate.

                  Comparing pro athletes back then to now is a joke. Same goes for football.

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                  • JerseySuave4
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 5152

                    #114
                    I think its too hard to say who was the greatest team of all time because they didn't play the same competition. While the 96 Bulls are my favorite, keep in mind that nobody thinks the Undefeated Dolphins are the greatest football team ever because they went undefeated. They benefitted from a ridiculously weak schedule. The 18-1 Patriots were head and shoulders better than those Dolphins but the Dolphins didn't lose a game (even though technically the Pats went 2 more games than they did undefeated).

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                    • Sam Marlowe
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1230

                      #115
                      Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                      The time machine argument is a weak one. The evolution of the game is just that. You cant have a future without the past. The only reason players are capable of what they are today is because they have the luxury of building on the creativity of players from the past. Kobe Bryant is the prime example. If you took him as an 18 year old and dropped him in the year 1976 he wouldnt look anything remotely close to what his is now. Why? Because he's based 90% of his game on Michael Jordan ( the same goes for guys like VC, T-Mac ect). The time machine argument is a slippery slope at best.

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                      • sportjames23
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 1152

                        #116
                        Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                        Originally posted by Steve_OS
                        This video is also available on the OS Youtube channel, please subscribe while you're there.

                        It is time for you to make your case on the greatest NBA team of all-time.

                        Fans can select a current or Legendary squad and submit their argument to Youtube. Upload a compassionate, convincing argument and have a shot at an upcoming NBA 2K12 commercial spot.

                        Head on over to NBA2KDebate.com to get the details.

                        The GOAT, ladies and gentlemen. The GOAT.
                        "I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can't accept not trying."

                        - Michael Jordan

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                        • Josephlaker123
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 16

                          #117
                          hahaa one thing bill wasnt tht great of a player 44% shooting throughout his career and 15.4 points per game! great rings not so much of a great player

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                          • JerseySuave4
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 5152

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Sam Marlowe
                            The time machine argument is a weak one. The evolution of the game is just that. You cant have a future without the past. The only reason players are capable of what they are today is because they have the luxury of building on the creativity of players from the past. Kobe Bryant is the prime example. If you took him as an 18 year old and dropped him in the year 1976 he wouldnt look anything remotely close to what his is now. Why? Because he's based 90% of his game on Michael Jordan ( the same goes for guys like VC, T-Mac ect). The time machine argument is a slippery slope at best.
                            Thats a stupid arguement. Just look at it black & white, players these days are more athletic, more skilled, in better condition so they are better players than the players in the past. Add to that the fact that coaching these days is much better. I find it more stupid to brag about Russell dominating when players back then weren't as skilled or athletic so the competition was not only weaker but there were fewer team, shorter schedule, etc. Would Russell still be great if he played in this era? Of course but he wouldn't have been as dominate as he was.

                            Thats why even though Russell has 11 rings people still consider Jordan to be the GOAT.

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                            • Yeah...THAT Guy
                              Once in a Lifetime Memory
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 17294

                              #119
                              Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                              Originally posted by Josephlaker123
                              hahaa one thing bill wasnt tht great of a player 44% shooting throughout his career and 15.4 points per game! great rings not so much of a great player
                              1. I'm pretty sure 44% was pretty solid for his time.
                              2. He wasn't an offensive player. He was a defensive god. I remember reading that if they had kept track of blocks, he might have averaged over 10 per game.
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                              • Sam Marlowe
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 1230

                                #120
                                Re: NBA 2K Debate, Michael Jordan Invitation - Pick Squad, Upload Video, End the Deba

                                Originally posted by JerseySuave4
                                Thats a stupid arguement. Just look at it black & white, players these days are more athletic, more skilled, in better condition so they are better players than the players in the past. Add to that the fact that coaching these days is much better. I find it more stupid to brag about Russell dominating when players back then weren't as skilled or athletic so the competition was not only weaker but there were fewer team, shorter schedule, etc. Would Russell still be great if he played in this era? Of course but he wouldn't have been as dominate as he was.

                                Thats why even though Russell has 11 rings people still consider Jordan to be the GOAT.
                                So I'm assuming you understand all the dynamics involved in time travel. Enlighten us all, please, don't be shy. I'll check back in later.

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