Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

[WipeOut464]

So I haven't downloaded the second patch and tuner because I don't want my custom playbooks to get all jacked up. Is this the best way to go?

I'm hoping that the next patch - assuming we get it - fixes the CPB glitches (disappearing formations, reordered plays, etc.) outright without requiring Patch 2 first, thereby avoiding a total CPB rebuild. This seems pretty unlikely though. If I'm going to be rebuilding my CPBs from scratch, I might as well download Patch 2 so I can at least play some offline games in the meantime. Thoughts?

[K0ZZ]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

The game plays 200X better with the patch, than without.

I doubt your custom playbook is diverse enough that it cannot be replicated, unless your game is completely based around no huddle and you could absolutely not run any form of offense without it (which is still worked around) there really isn't a point to not download the patch.

[BadAssHskr]

The game plays 200X better with the patch, than without.

I doubt your custom playbook is diverse enough that it cannot be replicated, unless your game is completely based around no huddle and you could absolutely not run any form of offense without it (which is still worked around) there really isn't a point to not download the patch.

Exactly this.

Game play post patch is so much better it drowns out cpb amd no huddle.

That is unless you are solely based on a no huddle O.

Game play wise though, its worth the sacrafice.

[WipeOut464]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

The game plays 200X better with the patch, than without.

I doubt your custom playbook is diverse enough that it cannot be replicated, unless your game is completely based around no huddle and you could absolutely not run any form of offense without it (which is still worked around) there really isn't a point to not download the patch.

The issue isn't that they aren't irreplaceably diverse, it's that (1) it took quite a while to assemble them exactly how I want them; and, more importantly (2) I don't want to lose formations (I-Form Tight, Wildcat, etc.).

But if the trade off really is as substantial as you guys claim, maybe it'd be worth it. What kinds of offenses are you running? If WR blocking really has improved - especially in the option game - then I might consider it.

[BadAssHskr]

^^
You can always dump the patch if its not for you.

[jbrew2411]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

Only played 3 games post patch #2 and have to say it plays much better. I was able to run some bubbles and slip screens. I run with Georgia so I use their playbook.

[jello1717]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

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You can always dump the patch if its not for you.

But you can't get back to only patch 1 if you download the patch and patch 1 plays much better than no patches.

As a CPB/no-huddle user who feels that patch 1 plays a very good game, I'm not downloading the patch/tuner until the issues with it (which would certainly affect me more than most) are fixed. If they're never fixed, I'm perfectly happy with patch 1.

[FutureAUgrad]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

This is slightly off-topic but it pertains to the patch so I'll ask it anyway. Does anyone know if the "substantial playing time" promise bug in dynasty mode has been resolved? I'm hesitant to use it even if I know the recruit will be my day 1 starter because of how it has affected me before.

[WipeOut464]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

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You can always dump the patch if its not for you.

Right, but won't downloading the patch irrevocably alter my existing CPBs? I'm concerned that if I download the patch and then dump it the damage to my CPBs will already be done. I suppose I'd probably get my missing formations back at least.

Here's a thought. Do we know for sure that downloading Update #2 automatically alters the CPBs? Or does it only alter them if you load them for use in a game or for editing? It'd be nice if I could get the patch but hold off on using my CPBs until the patch is fixed.

[Redacted01]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

Right, but won't downloading the patch irrevocably alter my existing CPBs? I'm concerned that if I download the patch and then dump it the damage to my CPBs will already be done. I suppose I'd probably get my missing formations back at least.

Here's a thought. Do we know for sure that downloading Update #2 automatically alters the CPBs? Or does it only alter them if you load them for use in a game or for editing? It'd be nice if I could get the patch but hold off on using my CPBs until the patch is fixed.

Then save a backup of your playbook.

[Pezell04x]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

The issue isn't that they aren't irreplaceably diverse, it's that (1) it took quite a while to assemble them exactly how I want them; and, more importantly (2) I don't want to lose formations (I-Form Tight, Wildcat, etc.).

But if the trade off really is as substantial as you guys claim, maybe it'd be worth it. What kinds of offenses are you running? If WR blocking really has improved - especially in the option game - then I might consider it.

I run with SMU's Run and Shoot style D after losing my custom playbook. Pretty good set.

[ajwhawkeye12]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

Can somebody please give me a good explanation of the issue with no huddle after patch #2?

[ycbs]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

Is there any CPB issue if you hadn't already had one saved, but create one after you've installed Patch 2, or is this only an issue for pre-existing CPB's that were made before Patch 2?

I haven't started a real Dynasty yet, as I was waiting for this patch, but I did mess around a little with the CPB, but didn't invest all that much time with it. Should I just erase it and start a new one from scratch post-patch, or just forget CPB altogether?

[WipeOut464]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

Then save a backup of your playbook.

I must not be explaining myself well.

My question: If I download the update but don't in any way load my CPBs (i.e., no further editing or using them in-game), will those CPBs be effected by the patch?

The issue with saving a CPB backup in-game (is there any other way?) is that it'd be jacked up by the update too if the update applies to everything that's on the HDD despite not being actively loaded.

I think the only way to test this would be like this:
(1) Have somebody get the update
(2) Not load a CPB in any way
(3) Delete the update
(4) Without redownloading the update check to see if the original CPBs were altered.

[DNMHIII]

Re: Avoid Patch & Tuner #2?

Can somebody please give me a good explanation of the issue with no huddle after patch #2?

The search function is your friend.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...messed-up.html