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  • db56
    Veteran
    • Feb 2006
    • 790

    #1

    Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

    I'm a Madden Veteran, been playing since 92 on the Sega Genesis. I've have never struggled to throw deep until this year.

    That being said, what do I have to do to win downfield matchups against Safeties? It just seems the secondary has a distinct advantage every time. I try to take control of the WR and user catch but It doesnt help, every Safety is perfect position and seems to play like Ed Reed!!

    Please Help!! Any tips or advice would be appreciated...
    Last edited by db56; 09-17-2011, 12:23 PM.
  • Ja109
    Rookie
    • Aug 2011
    • 29

    #2
    Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

    I need help with this too i can't throw online for more than 20 yards without it being swatted. I do get completions sometimes if they are user controlling the guy but other than that it's not gonna happen.

    What pisses me off is i can send Mike Wallace on a streak (98 speed) against a safety in deep coverage and Mike passes the safety but the safety manages to catch up with him and swat the ball down or intercept it.

    Also not many safeties in the Nfl have that kind of speed.

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    • db56
      Veteran
      • Feb 2006
      • 790

      #3
      Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

      Originally posted by Ja109
      I need help with this too i can't throw online for more than 20 yards without it being swatted. I do get completions sometimes if they are user controlling the guy but other than that it's not gonna happen.

      What pisses me off is i can send Mike Wallace on a streak (98 speed) against a safety in deep coverage and Mike passes the safety but the safety manages to catch up with him and swat the ball down or intercept it.

      Also not many safeties in the Nfl have that kind of speed.
      The trick has to be user control and I've been working on it but there is something I'm not doing right. I'll have my big WR on a smaller, slower S and the S will somehow have the advantage...

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      • speedy9386
        Pro
        • Mar 2009
        • 828

        #4
        Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

        Yeah they definitly tried to sabotage the deep game this year. The problem is the defenders just have too much power, like the defender could be behind you and just reach up over you for a swat or interception. Also alot of the time it seems as if the quarterback will throw directly to a defender no matter how good a quarterback he is.

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        • MaddenFanPS3
          Rookie
          • Sep 2011
          • 53

          #5
          Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

          play action streak

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          • jd369
            Banned
            • Sep 2008
            • 1341

            #6
            Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

            there is also a problem with the balls hanging in the air too long on deep passes. if a saftey is in the middle of the field following the slot guy that ran a cross theres no way he should be able to turn and sprint to the outside wr going deep and break up the play. It happens every time my wr beats the cb (which also doesnt hardly ever happen) I throw the ball for what should be a long gain/td but the saftey somehow makes it halfway back across the field and swats it down.

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            • db56
              Veteran
              • Feb 2006
              • 790

              #7
              Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

              Originally posted by speedy9386
              Yeah they definitly tried to sabotage the deep game this year. The problem is the defenders just have too much power, like the defender could be behind you and just reach up over you for a swat or interception. Also alot of the time it seems as if the quarterback will throw directly to a defender no matter how good a quarterback he is.
              Totally agree with this. Unless I have excellent pass protection and have 5 seconds(never happens) to let my Wr get a 5 yards of seperation, my Qb throws the perfect pass to the Safety and they make the perfect jump pick.

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              • twimstaxs
                Banned
                • Aug 2011
                • 315

                #8
                My deep balls always get caught!

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                • tastybrownies
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 155

                  #9
                  Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

                  Yeah, this game is horrible in simulating deep balls. I completely agree with everything said here, most what you guys mentioned has happened to me as well.

                  Come on EA!?

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                  • meep316
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 432

                    #10
                    Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

                    The secret is user catching. I just got the game the other day, haven't bought a Madden since 10, which I traded in after a day so that doesn't really count.

                    I'm liking the game so far, but all I've really played is ultimate team. I refuse to spend real money, so I've got a junk team, and my deep game is very limited. The times that I've thrown deep, the only times I've caught the ball is when I user caught them.

                    I actually had a great play last night, I sent a guy on a streak, it was Courtney Roby I believe, and in double coverage I managed to jump up and snag it, not rocket catching or anything, though. Just positioned myself well and hit triangle and he came down with it.

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                    • trth22
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 47

                      #11
                      Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

                      DO NOT use lob passing.

                      the game uses a more realistic approach to deep balls this year so bullets and touches passes get their own air now deep.

                      only use lobs when receiver is ABOUT to be open, not when he is open.

                      also use lead passing.

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                      • Lionhammer
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 218

                        #12
                        Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

                        doesn't a non lob just get batted down by the CB or safety thats underneath?

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                        • DeadlyVirus31
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 12

                          #13
                          Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

                          I myself was having the same problem until I came across a solution. Some how I accidetly pushed up on L3 while throwing the deep ball. To my surprise, the ball was lofted over the safeties head prob 30+ yards down the field and Earl Bennett caught the ball while getting two feet in the back of the endZone.

                          I thought this might be a fluke, but has worked everytime since. I also have notice if you pull L3 down towards the sideline you are throwing to, prevents INT's when the CB jumps(knows) the route before the Wr breaks.

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                          • edborstein
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 195

                            #14
                            Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

                            I also have a problem with this. Soemtimes though, the MLB, or DT has insane jumping abilities. I'm talkin' jumping UP into the air on a lob pas that would've been WAY over his head, and GRABBING it with one hand.

                            The physics are odd i nthis game...

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                            • speedy9386
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 828

                              #15
                              Re: Need Help Throwing Deep!! User vs. User

                              They REALLY have to do something about this whole passing directly to the defender thing it's really starting to get bad.

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