FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

[sventheone]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Very excited for this. Tone down the impact engine 5 notches, aka the max Payne simulator. Work in some ai back passes and distance shots and we have an **** one here.

[sventheone]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Strange, why does e pic get blocked out

[slthree]

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Oh yeah, I did see your answers and they were very helpful because I haven't seen anything resembling soccer in FIFA and I thought I was crazy.

Even now, not a single person has said the CPU plays the ball backwards or shoots from distance with the top midfielders.

If I face Lampard, Gerrard, Ballack, Essien, etc., I want to see screamers from distance. That will not happen in FIFA.

My Lord, can you imagine playing against the Dutch and Sniejder never shooting from distance. That's a joke. It's like playing Madden and facing the Patriots and Brady never throws.

If I face Barca, I want to feel what ManU felt when Barca beat them 3-0, the absolute agony of a slow death because they play keep away in the midfield and you never know from where will they go forward.

So, other than the "this game is great" or the "this is really a step forward" comments, I want to hear from one person who can say that the teams play strategically with proper build up.

Every game I've played is the same despite the opponent. It's like there is a prize for the CPU getting the ball to the strikers as fast as they possibly can.

I'm not sure if you saw may response to you in previous page, but I am not having fun at all. Sure the game is beautiful with really nice animations, but I just don't see a soccer simulation in FIFA. I played it multiple times, to try to like the game, but I can't. All CPU teams I play are very predictable. Usually, when they have the possession, I just defend the wings to force them to build up in the middle. Next thing you know, my prediction was right, they go to the wings and build up there. Almost, forcing the issue.

In PES, when the CPU noticed you are defending the wings, they will make plays in the middle. They know how to make adjustments on the fly. Not really sure if some people here can see what I am seeing.

[EvanRG]

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This demo confirms to me why I ended up picking up a "different" soccer game last year. It just feels stale and forced after several go-throughs.

There is no organic feel to the game and the computer doesn't mix up its styles enough or have enough (if any) "wow" moments.

Is it pretty? Sure, but it's not the game I will be purchasing this year.

[booker21]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

For those who are loving the game and raving about it...

How can you say that?

The CPU won't shoot from distance with players who should shoot from distance.

The CPU doesn't play the ball backwards to slow things down and attempt to probe.

Every team plays the same way.

I want Barca to make me crazy with numerous passes in the midfield, to include many that go backwards. But, they play no differently than any other team.

Its pretty, yes. But, its not soccer.

Finally someone who can see this.

[Greene_Flash03]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

This demo confirms to me why I ended up picking up a "different" soccer game last year. It just feels stale and forced after several go-throughs.

There is no organic feel to the game and the computer doesn't mix up its styles enough or have enough (if any) "wow" moments.

Is it pretty? Sure, but it's not the game I will be purchasing this year.

Nailed it buddy!

[rckabillyRaider]

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still not really feeling it this year. I have resorted to dumbing down to semi-pro (from world class on fifa 11) and will be using legacy defending, because tactical defending is just too gimicky, IMO. The possession is still favoring my opponent most of the time and I been using Barca. Maybe if the games were longer things would be different

That said, I am seeing some potential for this game to be "fun" but not exactly true to football. I will buy it like I do every year, but the other game will be my game of choice again.

[Peji911]

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I cant believe people are saying that this game doesnt feel like true soccer. Are these simply soccer fans or actual players in real life?

This game is spectacular. It's only 3 mins and only has 6 teams, but each team plays so different it's not funny.

Tactical defending is amazing. Is it different, yup, but in a good way. Before you could use the R-Stick to go shoulder to shoulder, but now you can do that, plus tug on opponent's shirts to slow them down, etc.

I think the problem is most people play with automatic controls and things such as auto switching on, but believe me, if you learn to play on manual the game definitely responds better.

I used to be a HUGE PES guy and even got an infraction years ago for talking down FIFA, but pes has been a joke since PES 6, imo and it pains me to say that cause i HATE EA! lol

I like some things about PES, but it still feels as though the game isnt very fluid and it's hard to get the ball to go as fast as you want, to whome you want, etc.... whereas FIFA's ball has its own physics so it works sooo well, imo.

I wish Seabass got fired from PES and these two games joined today and take each game's best qualities and form SUPER-SOCCER muahaha

[PeruvianPlaya954]

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Here's a question. Been arguing a with a pal who says that the L1 or LB button forces your teammates to make runs, and that that was the case in FIFA11, too.

I was ranked highly in FIFA11 online but never knew or used this, so my question is, is this true?

[elprez98]

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I have resorted to dumbing down to semi-pro (from world class on fifa 11) and will be using legacy defending, because tactical defending is just too gimicky, IMO.

Do you seriously call tactical defending gimmicky? Its actually one of the best updates to the game in a while.

[EvanRG]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

I cant believe people are saying that this game doesnt feel like true soccer. Are these simply soccer fans or actual players in real life?

This game is spectacular. It's only 3 mins and only has 6 teams, but each team plays so different it's not funny.

Tactical defending is amazing. Is it different, yup, but in a good way. Before you could use the R-Stick to go shoulder to shoulder, but now you can do that, plus tug on opponent's shirts to slow them down, etc.

I think the problem is most people play with automatic controls and things such as auto switching on, but believe me, if you learn to play on manual the game definitely responds better.

I used to be a HUGE PES guy and even got an infraction years ago for talking down FIFA, but pes has been a joke since PES 6, imo and it pains me to say that cause i HATE EA! lol

I like some things about PES, but it still feels as though the game isnt very fluid and it's hard to get the ball to go as fast as you want, to whome you want, etc.... whereas FIFA's ball has its own physics so it works sooo well, imo.

I wish Seabass got fired from PES and these two games joined today and take each game's best qualities and form SUPER-SOCCER muahaha

My issue isn't the controlling -- actually, that is one things that I've always felt was done well.

It's the simple fact that Fifa as a game does not pose any real strategic soccer gameplay to me. Case and point is the "Tactical defending" in Fifa vs "Hold-Up Possession" in PES. I have yet to see the CPU in the Fifa demo pass the ball back and look for a different run or option on offense. It's the same cards played almost every time and it gets old quickly.

I love the fact that this sport has competition in the video game realm -- I just have simply found my soccer nirvana elsewhere. =)

[Greene_Flash03]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

My issue isn't the controlling -- actually, that is one things that I've always felt was done well.

It's the simple fact that Fifa as a game does not pose any real strategic soccer gameplay to me. Case and point is the "Tactical defending" in Fifa vs "Hold-Up Possession" in PES. I have yet to see the CPU in the Fifa demo pass the ball back and look for a different run or option on offense. It's the same cards played almost every time and it gets old quickly.

I love the fact that this sport has competition in the video game realm -- I just have simply found my soccer nirvana elsewhere. =)

It gets old quickly, and it becomes predictable.

[rckabillyRaider]

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Do you seriously call tactical defending gimmicky? Its actually one of the best updates to the game in a while.

Glad you like it . And yes seriously, I don't think it's implemented well. I like the idea but the execution is not there, IMO. With TD, if you're playing on the higher difficulties it feels as if the cpu just passes the ball around forever with your AI defenders just looking and not doing nothing about it. I'm getting used to it as I play more though. Some people like fifa more, some people like the other game more for varying reasons.

[slthree]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Ahh yes, the old reliable: "These critics don't know the game. They must never have played" argument. Its the "gold standard" non relevant defense when someone can't understand why the game they love is not loved by others.

OK. Let's see:

College Scholarship as a soccer player, semi pro soccer player, coached the captain of the US National Women's team that won the World Cup a few years back.

Umm, does that make me qualified?

The game is the same all the time. There is no personality to it.

Not even the people who love it can defend it from a tactical point of view. Let's see how quickly the cpu can fire the ball forward to the strikers who do 100% of the scoring.

God forbid a midfielder score from distance, let alone take a shot.

And, you clearly aren't playing FIFA if you say the teams play differently. Barca does not stand out in any way as different.

Its pretty but its not soccer. 5th grade soccer maybe, where all the kids go 100% forward 100% of the time. But, big boy soccer it is not.

I cant believe people are saying that this game doesnt feel like true soccer. Are these simply soccer fans or actual players in real life?

This game is spectacular. It's only 3 mins and only has 6 teams, but each team plays so different it's not funny.

Tactical defending is amazing. Is it different, yup, but in a good way. Before you could use the R-Stick to go shoulder to shoulder, but now you can do that, plus tug on opponent's shirts to slow them down, etc.

I think the problem is most people play with automatic controls and things such as auto switching on, but believe me, if you learn to play on manual the game definitely responds better.

I used to be a HUGE PES guy and even got an infraction years ago for talking down FIFA, but pes has been a joke since PES 6, imo and it pains me to say that cause i HATE EA! lol

I like some things about PES, but it still feels as though the game isnt very fluid and it's hard to get the ball to go as fast as you want, to whome you want, etc.... whereas FIFA's ball has its own physics so it works sooo well, imo.

I wish Seabass got fired from PES and these two games joined today and take each game's best qualities and form SUPER-SOCCER muahaha

[PeruvianPlaya954]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Ahh yes, the old reliable: "These critics don't know the game. They must never have played" argument. Its the "gold standard" non relevant defense when someone can't understand why the game they love is not loved by others.

OK. Let's see:

College Scholarship as a soccer player, semi pro soccer player, coached the captain of the US National Women's team that won the World Cup a few years back.

Umm, does that make me qualified?

The game is the same all the time. There is no personality to it.

Not even the people who love it can defend it from a tactical point of view. Let's see how quickly the cpu can fire the ball forward to the strikers who do 100% of the scoring.

God forbid a midfielder score from distance, let alone take a shot.

And, you clearly aren't playing FIFA if you say the teams play differently. Barca does not stand out in any way as different.

Its pretty but its not soccer. 5th grade soccer maybe, where all the kids go 100% forward 100% of the time. But, big boy soccer it is not.

Agreed. Also noticed the CPU is NEVER offside and there is a major lack of fouls in the game based off the demo.