FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

[BrianFifaFan]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Okay guys, I just installed a demo expander off of Sweetpatch. It gave me 10 minutes halves and, wait for it... , let me play in the snow! It was Man City (me) against Bor. Dortmund. I won 1-0. Lots of exchange of possesion. They played a very conservative attack, heavy on defending and playing a deep defensive line, which was encouraging. I can't tell you guys what a beautiful game this is on PC. My bottom end i7 is smooth as silk. (1080p, 2xAA, High Detail) I don't think I've ever played a better looking videogame, detail-wise. Had to get out the Zi-8 and shoot Wayne Rooney in the arena, afterwards. These player models are just incredible, facially. Wayne Rooney is a bit too slight, IMO. I'm definitely getting this on PC......

[BrianFifaFan]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Well stated Brian.

I actually wanted FIFA12 to be sound tactically because I followed the videos for months. And, I certainly agree that the time spent with the demo and the shortness of the demo does not lend itself to an accurate conclusion of what the retail release will be.

My issue is that I'm an adult with a job and kids and my play time is limited so when I set aside time for a game, I really prefer to get as close to real as possible.

PES has issues that drive me crazy and its not perfect. But, I know what I'm up against based on the team I'm about to play. Spain, Germany, and the US all play differently. Chances are that those differences will be felt by me (the user) more with PES than FIFA.

If I played you on FIFA I would most likely love the game because you would likely use your team's strengths to the fullest. But, I fear thats not the case if I oppose the CPU. If you used England, I'm almost certain you'd be testing my keeper from distance with those great shooting midfielders. But, FIFA doesn't do that.

Only 1 guy (based on his posts I'm guessing he's a child) defends FIFA as tactically sound. And, he has not detailed how. Enough said about him.

As of the writing of this post, not a single person has stated that they have experienced the CPU midfielders attempting a shot.

I don't want to insult the guys who love FIFA. I asked three simple questions early on and none of the answers were positive.

I just opposed Inter in PES and Sniejder hit a screamer from outside the box that terrified me, even though it was deflected. Thats the stuff I'm looking for.

Thanks. BTW, I'm 45 with a 6 year old and a 2 1/2 year old. I feel your pain. I only buy games now that I know I'm going to play a lot. Time is precious. I did just find a patch for the 2nd PES demo that gives you 72 teams to play with. Gonna give that a spin. I'm gonna to make sure that both games really float my boat, but I can see myself getting, and loving both, for their individual strengths. These two, and NBA2k12, and I'll probably call it a year.....

[lnin0]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Top 5 Goals of the Week (demo version)

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*for fans of the skill moves, not reality.

[Qb]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Someone mentioned they would video a game against Barca and someone else said they saw 2 long range shots.

I await those videos.

Were the shots from midfielders or defenders? Maybe, I should give the game more time if they were from positions other than a striker

No one needs to show you anything. And please stop with the insults.


As for the rest, it's not ****ing rocket science. This is a FIFA impressions thread; it is for impressions of the FIFA12 demo. I was rather clear where I stand on comparisons. This thread is not the place.

[sventheone]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)


What'd I miss...

[Greene_Flash03]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Top 5 Goals of the Week (demo version)

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/iZ04G_zrd8c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

*for fans of the skill moves, not reality.

Nice skill moves goals. But you're right, not realistic shots.

[slthree]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Resorting to internet cursing with asterisks? Really? Surely, this is not the type "moderation" Operation Sports is espousing? What a mature message your sending there sparky.

Well, tough guy. Its really none of your business so please stop flexing your anonymous internet muscle. I am not impressed.

If someone offers to share something to those of us who want to see it thats their business, not yours. If no one offers anything, thats also their business, not yours.

No one needs to show you anything. And please stop with the insults.


As for the rest, it's not ****ing rocket science. This is a FIFA impressions thread; it is for impressions of the FIFA12 demo. I was rather clear where I stand on comparisons. This thread is not the place.

[Panicshade]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

The tensions are getting a little too high now. I think everyone can agree the insults and the like can just stop because that doesn't accomplish anything but make whoever says it look bad. It doesn't add anything to the conversation.

I believe OS inadvertently got this ball rolling by not including PES in the demo roundtable to discuss both games and not just one. Yes, I know that they simply made a choice of what to cover and write about and since this is their site I have absolutely no issue with that and would not want to deal with the things they have to on a daily basis. But looking at it from another perspective it is easy for them to do a roundtable on Madden, NCAA, NHL, NBA 2K, and PGA considering there are currently no competitors for those games. But there is an established alternative for soccer with PES. I would have liked to see a pros and cons debate from the OS writers on the 2 games and even if they all said FIFA was better at least they would have offered their views for everyone to debate in an appropriate manner.

[Super Glock]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Wow the thread sure gets a lot better when you add some people to your ignore list. Some peope really have an agenda when it comes to this game and it shows. Glad the moderators are not putting up with it.

Anyways still really enjoying the demo and can't wait for 09-27. The gameplay feels very organic and I am seeing a ton of variety. I saw the other thread regarding the funny things going on with the impact engine but I am glad to report I have not seen any of that and I have put a lot of time on the demo so I am not concerned at all. At least the framerate doesn't glitch every other second like another demo I have recently played.

[Bahnzo]

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Resorting to internet cursing with asterisks? Really? Surely, this is not the type "moderation" Operation Sports is espousing? What a mature message your sending there sparky.

Well, tough guy. Its really none of your business so please stop flexing your anonymous internet muscle. I am not impressed.

I think what you fail to understand, is that the message QB is trying to get across to you is: "Stop with the PES crap on a FIFA forum". Every post I read from you inevitably includes some sort of "PES does this better..." sort of deal. This is a FIFA forum, and this thread is for FIFA impressions. Come over to the PES forum and tell us all how great that game is this year.

[Whitesox]

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The tensions are getting a little too high now. I think everyone can agree the insults and the like can just stop because that doesn't accomplish anything but make whoever says it look bad. It doesn't add anything to the conversation.

I believe OS inadvertently got this ball rolling by not including PES in the demo roundtable to discuss both games and not just one. Yes, I know that they simply made a choice of what to cover and write about and since this is their site I have absolutely no issue with that and would not want to deal with the things they have to on a daily basis. But looking at it from another perspective it is easy for them to do a roundtable on Madden, NCAA, NHL, NBA 2K, and PGA considering there are currently no competitors for those games. But there is an established alternative for soccer with PES. I would have liked to see a pros and cons debate from the OS writers on the 2 games and even if they all said FIFA was better at least they would have offered their views for everyone to debate in an appropriate manner.

I don't know that it was the roundtable that got it rolling, this ball has been in motion for a long time, and it will continue to roll.

It's gonna happen when you have people who come to these forums that aren't the most knowledgeable about the sport. Because of this, I believe there are a good number of people who have some sort of brand loyalty towards one of the games. I imagine that those who love the sport itself see what each game brings to the table, and where each game is different. Everyone is generally in the same "camp", as it were. There might be disagreement, but there is no belligerence.

I personally know people who think FIFA is a fun game because it's FIFA, not because it's soccer. And while that's totally fine, it breeds a sense of conflict between the two games.

It's sad, but it is what it is. Some people might be able to handle it, but everyone will not be able to have a civil discussion on two opposing products, be it politics, religion, or videogames. This thread has taught me that. Also, I won't call it out, but there is some serious hypocrisy in this thread; that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Blind hate towards one game or the other.

[rangerrick012]

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Played a bit more today. I like the fact that the D pressures less on offense and actually gives you time to set up, I hated the ultra pressure last year.

I cannot get over the fact that the CPU is virtually flawless w/ its passing and crossing on offense - playing on World Class BTW. Thankfully there are sliders this year so hopefully it can be remedied somewhat.

[slthree]

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Great post, Panic.

Tensions run high any time people are giving opinions on anything, especially when two things are compared.

But, when moderators fail to moderate for whatever reason, blind loyalty to a game they feel love but feel is being attacked, a perceived attack on a company they don't want to anger for personal gain, or just good old immaturity, tensions grow even higher.

When that happens, its the failure of the moderator, who, in this case, inflamed things by losing his cool and cursing. Certainly not very mature.

Funny thing is that the conversion had already moved to a more tame tone before he acted. Then, off the back of the moderators comment, another immature person feels emblazoned to speak negatively also , merely showing his immaturity.

All of this would have been avoided by a skilled moderator.

The tensions are getting a little too high now. I think everyone can agree the insults and the like can just stop because that doesn't accomplish anything but make whoever says it look bad. It doesn't add anything to the conversation.

I believe OS inadvertently got this ball rolling by not including PES in the demo roundtable to discuss both games and not just one. Yes, I know that they simply made a choice of what to cover and write about and since this is their site I have absolutely no issue with that and would not want to deal with the things they have to on a daily basis. But looking at it from another perspective it is easy for them to do a roundtable on Madden, NCAA, NHL, NBA 2K, and PGA considering there are currently no competitors for those games. But there is an established alternative for soccer with PES. I would have liked to see a pros and cons debate from the OS writers on the 2 games and even if they all said FIFA was better at least they would have offered their views for everyone to debate in an appropriate manner.

[PeruvianPlaya954]

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I've said this before, and I'll say it again, give us a place to compare both games - because there just isn't such a place right now. There's a place to discuss each game individually, but not comparatively (in a civil manner). Until that happens, this problem will continue to arise.

[slthree]

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Both threads contain talk of the other game. That can't be avoided, especially since there is no dedicated comparison thread.

When threads go 100% talking about only one product, then this site will fail because people read impression threads for comparisons.

But, that's not the point. The point is that I have a ton of room in my pm box and a more mature moderator, one without an agenda, would have merely pm'd me.

I think what you fail to and its people like me w.ho helped build this siteunderstand, is that the message QB trying to get across to you is: "Stop with the PES crap on a FIFA forum". Every post I read from you inevitably includes some sort of "PES does this better..." sort of deal. This is a FIFA forum, and this thread is for FIFA impressions. Come over to the PES forum and tell us all how great that game is this year.