FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

**peigone** · 09-21-2011, 11:47 AM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by RoyceDa59

I am enjoying this game but I am very 50/50 with it. One second I like and another second I don't. It is mostly due to the AI and the streamlined team play, I swear I am tired of getting scored on the same way sometimes and all teams using the same tactic.

100% how I feel after playing many games last night and this morning. The game went from a first-day purchase to a wait and see for me. I only play offline and haven't bought a FIFA game in 2 years specifically because of this issue, along with a couple other offline AI issues that have plagued this series for years and that I'm seeing in this demo.

**Greene_Flash03** · 09-21-2011, 12:05 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by peigone

100% how I feel after playing many games last night and this morning. The game went from a first-day purchase to a wait and see for me. I only play offline and haven't bought a FIFA game in 2 years specifically because of this issue, along with a couple other offline AI issues that have plagued this series for years and that I'm seeing in this demo.

Did you guys play 2011 version? Does it happen a lot in 2011?

**~LiverpoolRed~** · 09-21-2011, 12:34 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by Krebstar

They said fouls were tweaked after the demo released

Here's hoping.

**peigone** · 09-21-2011, 12:39 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by Greene_Flash03

Did you guys play 2011 version? Does it happen a lot in 2011?

I didn't play FIFA 11. I was hoping they would eventually fix this, so I skipped a year. It's becoming annoying watching CPU teams run the ball down the side, send a perfect cross to a teammate in the box, and bang -- header into my goal. I dropped down in difficulty to see if it was a settings issue, but the exact same thing happens on the lower difficulty levels as well. It's like some kind of pre-determined auto-goal programming.

**Greene_Flash03** · 09-21-2011, 01:44 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by peigone

I didn't play FIFA 11. I was hoping they would eventually fix this, so I skipped a year. It's becoming annoying watching CPU teams run the ball down the side, send a perfect cross to a teammate in the box, and bang -- header into my goal. I dropped down in difficulty to see if it was a settings issue, but the exact same thing happens on the lower difficulty levels as well. It's like some kind of pre-determined auto-goal programming.

I found a temporary fix for this issue in 12. Basically, knowing the CPU will attack the wings, I defend the wings right from the get go (boxing them out, forcing them to play in the middle). When I do this, I notice different results in offense for the CPU. But most of the time they force the issue and attack the wings even if it was heavily defended. This makes it very predictable IMO.

**peigone** · 09-21-2011, 01:53 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by Greene_Flash03

I found a temporary fix for this issue in 12. Basically, knowing the CPU will attack the wings, I defend the wings right from the get go (boxing them out, forcing them to play in the middle). When I do this, I notice different results in offense for the CPU. But most of the time they force the issue and attack the wings even if it was heavily defended. This makes it very predictable IMO.

I appreciate the tips, that makes sense. What's annoying me is that the CPU sends perfect crosses onto the heads of its teammates every freaking time, even on amateur difficulty. In PES 2011, CPU players, depending on their ability, will often cross the ball and it misses everyone by yards and ends up rolling OB on the other side of the pitch. It just seems so automatic and deadly in the FIFA demo. But maybe that's because they're all top teams or something?

**Greene_Flash03** · 09-21-2011, 01:58 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by peigone

I appreciate the tips, that makes sense. What's annoying me is that the CPU sends perfect crosses onto the heads of its teammates every freaking time, even on amateur difficulty. In PES 2011, CPU players, depending on their ability, will often cross the ball and it misses everyone by yards and ends up rolling OB on the other side of the pitch. It just seems so automatic and deadly in the FIFA demo. But maybe that's because they're all top teams or something?

I think it was made like that lol! Thank god for passing sliders this year. If the sliders are implemented correctly, we can definitely minimize those accurate passes by CPU.

**peigone** · 09-21-2011, 02:07 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by Greene_Flash03

Thank god for passing sliders this year. If the sliders are implemented correctly, we can definitely minimize those accurate passes by CPU.

Oh, okay. I didn't realize those were in the game, thanks for the info. I heard something about sliders a while back but it never registered. I assume those sliders aren't in the demo, because I haven't seen any.

I really like the feel of the game this year, I hope it works out that it's fixable with sliders and such.

**Greene_Flash03** · 09-21-2011, 02:21 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by peigone

Oh, okay. I didn't realize those were in the game, thanks for the info. I heard something about sliders a while back but it never registered. I assume those sliders aren't in the demo, because I haven't seen any.

I really like the feel of the game this year, I hope it works out that it's fixable with sliders and such.

Not in the demo unfortunately.

Hey, if there are sliders, there's always hope

Qb · 09-21-2011, 02:24 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by peigone

I appreciate the tips, that makes sense. What's annoying me is that the CPU sends perfect crosses onto the heads of its teammates every freaking time, even on amateur difficulty.

What crossing assistance do you use? I've long thought that the user's assistance settings somehow affect the CPU as well. I typically use manual crossing, through balls & lobs (and sometimes full manual). I know it sounds like a crackpot internet theory, but I swear it loosens up the CPU's crossing so every one isn't directly to a head.

Or maybe I'm crazy.

**Greene_Flash03** · 09-21-2011, 02:27 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by Qb

What crossing assistance do you use? I've long thought that the user's assistance settings somehow affect the CPU as well. I typically use manual crossing, through balls & lobs (and sometimes full manual). I know it sounds like a crackpot internet theory, but I swear it loosens up the CPU's crossing so every one isn't directly to a head.

Or maybe I'm crazy.

Does that settings affects the CPU at all Qb? If so, I'll try i today.

**peigone** · 09-21-2011, 03:42 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by Qb

What crossing assistance do you use? I've long thought that the user's assistance settings somehow affect the CPU as well. I typically use manual crossing, through balls & lobs (and sometimes full manual). I know it sounds like a crackpot internet theory, but I swear it loosens up the CPU's crossing so every one isn't directly to a head.

Or maybe I'm crazy.

Interesting theory. I'm using all manual however. I have since the FIFA series first introduced manual. IMO one of the best additions to any sports game ever, and the biggest reason I enjoy FIFA so much.

Qb · 09-21-2011, 05:05 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Then I guess I'm crazy. At least I know where I stand.

**peigone** · 09-21-2011, 05:23 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Originally posted by Qb

Then I guess I'm crazy. At least I know where I stand.

It could be your theory has some merit. What I notice is the CPU will suddenly jack up the pressure, and that's when I see the perfect crosses and passes and so forth. But I also see errant passes by the CPU in midfield at times when it's not pressuring me. And those passes are as pathetically off-target at times as my passing sometimes is. Which is what I love about manual controls -- I can make really bad plays if I'm not careful.

**rckabillyRaider** · 09-21-2011, 05:47 PM

Re: FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

Tweaking the passing error slider is gonna be a must, IMO. However, I dont think we've gotten confirmation that we'll be able to tweak the CPU sliders. Just like madden 09 when EA decided we didn't need cpu sliders

FIFA 12 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3, PC)

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