Manny Pacquiao vs Money Mayweather

**Sausage** · 09-22-2011, 09:32 AM

Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Money Mayweather

Today it is 50/50. Mayweather's defense and pinpoint timing. Pacquaio's ability to land hard punches from different angles and underrated defense.

I believe there styles would mesh into a true back and forth dream match. Mayweather at times will figure him out and then Pacman changes it up as well. Mayweather will get hit, but will land his pin-point counters and will open similar to Ortiz.

Win, lose, or draw both men will be remembered in a higher light. Mayweather will always be hated for his "heel" WWE antics and Pacquaio will always be loved for his baby "face" WWE antics.

I don't believe they will ever fight and maybe that's what both want. They will be remembered as the two of the best of there era, but never forgotten, because they never fought. So, for as long as boxing is around they will always be discussed.

**100% Texan** · 09-22-2011, 09:55 AM

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mayweather by decision.

manny is one of the most dynamic punchers the boxing world has ever seen, but he will go up against one the greatest defensive fighters and accurate punchers of all time.

i don't think manny will be able to get to floyd consistently, not to mention manny doesn't really face many fighters that move around and use their head.

i can see manny hitting floyd with something spicy to make his knees buckle like what shane mosley hit him with.

but ultimately i think floyd will win the compubox battle, land more consistent effective punches, utilize the shoulder roll on the ropes, and get the UD.

**justblaze09** · 09-22-2011, 09:55 AM

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Offense wins games, but defense wins championships.

I'm just saying.

**game20ver** · 09-22-2011, 10:29 AM

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Floyd Mayweather wins 11 round TKO. This will be a one sided beat down by Money. Floyd can beat Pacquiao anyway he wants inside or outside & will dominate! Pacquiao won't get by Mayweather's jab if he chooses to fight on the outside & when he does Floyd will throw a right hand, and use his reach advantage stalling Pacquiao's offense like we've never seen before. If he choses to fight inside Pacquiao has his best chance but Floyds defense in the pocket is too good & Pacquiao's defense in almost non existent so he will eat a lot of counter punches on the inside, Pacquiao will get in his some good shots due to his speed but eventually Floyd will break Manny down this way as well.

**Bamtino** · 09-22-2011, 11:36 AM

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I used to side with Mayweather by UD but i saw somethings on a replay of that Ortiz fight i really did not like. Mayweather won all four rounds but i saw somethings that Pacquiao would feast on. For starters i did not like how Mayweather allowed himself to be pinned on the ropes so easily like that. He cannot under any circumstances allow Pacquiao to pin him like that.

Granted Ortiz didn't land many punches in the fight but the fact he was able to land a couple straight lefts cleanly is troublesome. Why is this so troublesome? because that's Pacquiao's money punch. Pacquiao loves to throw that lead left from unorthodox angles and he's a lot more explosive than Ortiz.

Ortiz was not only able to land with a clean lead left in that fourth round but he was also able to follow it up with a right. I can't see Mayweather catching a two piece like that from Pacquiao and still be standing. To add to that, some of those flurries were slipping through Mayweather's guard.

It was obvious to me that Mayweather has slowed down a bit. He's a lot more flat footed than he used to be. That said i still think he would edge out Pacquiao by decision. Pacquiao's numerous defensive flaws leave him wide open for Mayweathers pot shotting. If Mayweather can keep the fight in the center of the ring he'll dominate Pacquiao just like Marquez did.

**game20ver** · 09-22-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by Bamtino

I used to side with Mayweather by UD but i saw somethings on a replay of that Ortiz fight i really did not like. Mayweather won all four rounds but i saw somethings that Pacquiao would feast on. For starters i did not like how Mayweather allowed himself to be pinned on the ropes so easily like that. He cannot under any circumstances allow Pacquiao to pin him like that.

Granted Ortiz didn't land many punches in the fight but the fact he was able to land a couple straight lefts cleanly is troublesome. Why is this so troublesome? because that's Pacquiao's money punch. Pacquiao loves to throw that lead left from unorthodox angles and he's a lot more explosive than Ortiz.

Ortiz was not only able to land with a clean lead left in that fourth round but he was also able to follow it up with a right. I can't see Mayweather catching a two piece like that from Pacquiao and still be standing. To add to that, some of those flurries were slipping through Mayweather's guard.

It was obvious to me that Mayweather has slowed down a bit. He's a lot more flat footed than he used to be. That said i still think he would edge out Pacquiao by decision. Pacquiao's numerous defensive flaws leave him wide open for Mayweathers pot shotting. If Mayweather can keep the fight in the center of the ring he'll dominate Pacquiao just like Marquez did.

I agree with you Mayweather has slowed down a bit, he seems to have lost a step overall but with age & the 16 month layoff factoring in, it's to be expected. However, I disagree with you about Floyd allowing himself to be pinned on the ropes. Ortiz only got him on the ropes when Floyd like you said allowed it, he went there looking for the check hook. Pacquiao in my opinion does not cut off the ring effectively enough to pin Floyd. Even if Floyd were to allow himself against the ropes, Floyd is comfortable on the ropes & I think Freddie Roach would instruct Pacquiao to kill Floyd's body in that situation so Floyd would just rip Pacquiao with uppercuts. I honestly can't see Pacquiao's offense being effective in this fight, I would only give him a punchers chance against Floyd. I still see Floyd dominating.

**SdotThaDon** · 09-22-2011, 06:21 PM

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I thought before that Floyd would run away with a Ud against Pacman, but I think it's closer to a 50/50. If Floyd fights the way he fought Ortiz, he gets knocked out vs Manny. He was more offensive than we've seen him in years, throwing four and five punch combinations and actually sitting on his punches a bit. He also let more punches through than I expected, maybe the pressure bothered him a bit. Manny would fight a similar fight, but faster, with sharper punching, and a better motor. BUT...we know he won't fight Pac the same way, he respects him more than Ortiz. Against Marquez, Manny was at the buffet eating straight rights. Money's best punch, straight right hand lead. Faster and more powerful than Marquez's, so there are things for both guys to ride to a W. Gun to my head though, Floyd UD.

**iLLmatic** · 09-22-2011, 06:21 PM

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IMO, Floyd wins by decision. Pac's style is tailor made for Floyd. Constantly moving forward, willing to take shots to get inside so he could land his own. FM doesn't need or should anyone expect him to KO Pac to win while I believe Pac will have to KO out FM to get the victory.

The big negative for manny in this fight is that his defense is not consistently good enough to counter act FM's counter punching and accuracy. Another negative for Manny is that he is not familiar with the style of fighter FM is. Guys with extreme head movement that stick and move are not the norm for Manny as you look at his recent fights.

In the Mosley-Pac fight, had Mosley been sharper and more willing to fight, Manny left himself open a lot to be hit. Don't get me wrong, Mosley had no chance to win or capitalize on those openings, but a crisper, more focused fighter like FM will.

The first thing to go in Pac's arsenal when he is on the attack is his defensive awareness. This is something I'm sure Roach is aware of and will focus on it in camp, but Manny doesn't seem committed enough to be a defensive fighter. He's a brawler and he's successful doing it, but the one guy you can't do that with in all of boxing is Mayweather because he'll go to work on you as soon as he sees the openings. Regardless it will be one for the ages if they actually do fight and in no way do i see a one sided victory or a cake walk for either. They will both giveth and receivith (not sure if thats a real word) the whole night.

**Bamtino** · 09-22-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by game20ver

I agree with you Mayweather has slowed down a bit, he seems to have lost a step overall but with age & the 16 month layoff factoring in, it's to be expected. However, I disagree with you about Floyd allowing himself to be pinned on the ropes. Ortiz only got him on the ropes when Floyd like you said allowed it, he went there looking for the check hook. Pacquiao in my opinion does not cut off the ring effectively enough to pin Floyd. Even if Floyd were to allow himself against the ropes, Floyd is comfortable on the ropes & I think Freddie Roach would instruct Pacquiao to kill Floyd's body in that situation so Floyd would just rip Pacquiao with uppercuts. I honestly can't see Pacquiao's offense being effective in this fight, I would only give him a punchers chance against Floyd. I still see Floyd dominating.

Correct Mayweather backed himself into the ropes looking for that check hook and missed. Got pinned and Ortiz went to work.

As for Pacquiao's ability to cut off the ring, DLH wasn't that much better at cutting off the ring either but he pinned Mayweather quite a few times in their fight. That's because Mayweather has a bad habit of backing himself into the ropes. Roach knows this and even pointed it out in an interview a while ago as well as the fact Mayweather is more flat footed than he used to be. Rest assured Roach will have Pacquiao prepared to take advantage.

Anyway you look at it, being pinned against the ropes is a bad position for Mayweather to be in this fight. It's not going to be easy for Mayweather to just throw an uppercut when Pacquiao is unloading one of those 10 punch combos. Mayweather is not stupid, he will respect Pacquiaos power.

Roach is going to utilize the same gameplan he drew up for DLH. Be the busier man and unload on that body every time you get a chance. That strategy got one judge to score the fight for DLH against Mayweather. So regardless if he's landing cleanly or not, Pacquiao will score if Mayweather allows himself to get pinned.

I cannot stress enough how important it is for Mayweather to avoid the ropes and keep the fight in the center of the ring.

**GHOSTFACE03** · 09-23-2011, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by Bamtino

Correct Mayweather backed himself into the ropes looking for that check hook and missed. Got pinned and Ortiz went to work.

As for Pacquiao's ability to cut off the ring, DLH wasn't that much better at cutting off the ring either but he pinned Mayweather quite a few times in their fight. That's because Mayweather has a bad habit of backing himself into the ropes. Roach knows this and even pointed it out in an interview a while ago as well as the fact Mayweather is more flat footed than he used to be. Rest assured Roach will have Pacquiao prepared to take advantage.

Anyway you look at it, being pinned against the ropes is a bad position for Mayweather to be in this fight. It's not going to be easy for Mayweather to just throw an uppercut when Pacquiao is unloading one of those 10 punch combos. Mayweather is not stupid, he will respect Pacquiaos power.

Roach is going to utilize the same gameplan he drew up for DLH. Be the busier man and unload on that body every time you get a chance. That strategy got one judge to score the fight for DLH against Mayweather. So regardless if he's landing cleanly or not, Pacquiao will score if Mayweather allows himself to get pinned.

I cannot stress enough how important it is for Mayweather to avoid the ropes and keep the fight in the center of the ring.

True but you have to remember mayweathers ring iq. Do you really think he would fight pac the same way he fought ortiz? He adapts to each opponent, and im sure he would be more weary of the ropes against pacquiao. After watching pac struggle to land good shots against mosley(yeah i know he got knocked down) and clottey it makes me wonder how the hell he would try to handle mayweather. It will be a great match though, unmovable object vs unstoppable force.

**100% Texan** · 09-23-2011, 12:32 AM

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**RockinDaMike** · 09-23-2011, 12:49 AM

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It's gonna happen, May 5th 2012: Vegas.

This weekend is always the biggest fight of the year, Kentucky Derby, Baseball is rolling and your in the middle of the 1st round of the NBA playoffs. Oh let's not forget it is Cinco Di Mayo on a Saturday.

Been going to Vegas on this weekend for the last 4 years.

All I know is, if this happens, everyone needs to get to Vegas.

**GHOSTFACE03** · 09-23-2011, 02:43 AM

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Originally posted by RockinDaMike

It's gonna happen, May 5th 2012: Vegas.

This weekend is always the biggest fight of the year, Kentucky Derby, Baseball is rolling and your in the middle of the 1st round of the NBA playoffs. Oh let's not forget it is Cinco Di Mayo on a Saturday.

Been going to Vegas on this weekend for the last 4 years.

All I know is, if this happens, everyone needs to get to Vegas.

Buy me a ticket and i'll definitely be there

**Coast** · 09-23-2011, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by GHOSTFACE03

Buy me a ticket and i'll definitely be there

While you're on the airline ticket check out, add me in

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