Stop the Superconferences, start a playoff

[fsquid]

I don't think this fits in the other thread. But a good article about how this would all be avoided with a playoff and that the Big 12 and Big East only have themselves to blame.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...playoff_092211

[The GIGGAS]

Re: Stop the Superconferences, start a playoff

Damn good article by Wetzel.

[J-Unit40]

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Wetzel is almost always on his game and he doesn't disappoint this time either. Once again, the research speaks loudly.

I have never been pro-playoff in college football (outside of a plus-one), but it does make sense to have a six or eight team playoff.

[Perfect Zero]

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I agree with him on many fronts, but the problem is not convincing me or the average fan that there is a problem. Heck, if you got rid of the bowls and put different playoffs in their place you would have a much better product. The problem is that you have to convince the heads of universities that there is a better way.

Nothing is going to change unless you change the minds at the top of the food chain. I know they don't want to get rid of the bowls (and don't tell me you can have both, nobody's going to watch the #3 PAC team against the #3 B1G team if #1 is taking on #whatever that day), but that's what it's going to come down to.

I've come to the conclusion that the only way a playoff will take place is if either a) there is congressional action taken against the NCAA, or b) the top conferences break from the NCAA. Either way, it looks a long way off in my eyes.

[Jr.]

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Nothing is going to change unless you change the minds at the top of the food chain. I know they don't want to get rid of the bowls (and don't tell me you can have both, nobody's going to watch the #3 PAC team against the #3 B1G team if #1 is taking on #whatever that day), but that's what it's going to come down to.

Play the bowl games on weekdays (like most of them are anyway) and the playoff games on the weekend. They don't compete with each other, and just as many people will watch the meaningless bowl game because it's football.

I don't understand how the university presidents don't see the financial bright side of a playoff and continue to lose money sending their teams to lower tier bowl games.

This article is basically a very glossed over version of Death to the BCS, where he goes into great detail about all of this.

[GoToledo]

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and don't tell me you can have both, nobody's going to watch the #3 PAC team against the #3 B1G team if #1 is taking on #whatever that day)

Why not? That theoretical game doesn't mean any more now without a playoff in place, and people would still watch it.

[wildthing2022000]

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It would still be broken the only way you'd get a decent playoff is to condense the NCAA to 8 super conferences of 14-16 teams(6 of 16 and 2 of 14 as of 2012) and give each conference champion a playoff spot in a 8 team playoff thus guaranteeing everyone at least a shot at the title.

[Perfect Zero]

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How can you have the bowl games on the weekend when the NFL takes up Saturdays during the last part of the season into the playoffs? Unless you could get them to agree to putting all four of their playoff games on Sunday.

The best thing the bowls could do is to get in on the playoff fever. Maybe have a four team invitational or something like that. Otherwise, it's not going to draw in the numbers that a playoff would take away.

[Redacted01]

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How can you have the bowl games on the weekend when the NFL takes up Saturdays during the last part of the season into the playoffs? Unless you could get them to agree to putting all four of their playoff games on Sunday.

The best thing the bowls could do is to get in on the playoff fever. Maybe have a four team invitational or something like that. Otherwise, it's not going to draw in the numbers that a playoff would take away.

NCAA playoffs would start in December. NFL only has a Saturday night game. Put games on Friday and Saturday. Throw other bowl games during the week, just like it is now. People don't watch/go to bowl games now. Not like making a playoff is going to change that.

[Cardot]

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I've come to the conclusion that the only way a playoff will take place is if either a) there is congressional action taken against the NCAA, or b) the top conferences break from the NCAA. Either way, it looks a long way off in my eyes.

If...(and I know it is a big "If") interest in the Bowls were ever to decline, and the revenue along with it, I think all the arguments about "Student Atheletes" and exams etc would suddenly and quitely disappear.

[Cardot]

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I know they don't want to get rid of the bowls (and don't tell me you can have both, nobody's going to watch the #3 PAC team against the #3 B1G team if #1 is taking on #whatever that day), but that's what it's going to come down to.

They wouldn't be scheduled against each other. And whoever is watching #3Pac vs #3B1G in the current system, will be the ones watching in a system with playoffs & bowls.

[bwburke94]

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[jimmora]Playoffs?[/jimmora]

OK, that was a bad joke.

[Buckeyes_Doc]

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[jimmora]Playoffs?[/jimmora]

OK, that was a bad joke.

Look out Chris Rock.

[TDenverFan]

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# 3 PAC 12 Team could be:

USC
UCLA
Oregon
Stanford

Vs

#3 B1G

Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Nebraska


Andy matchup in there is pretty solid, and could easily be the #3 vs #3 team.

[Cardot]

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# 3 PAC 12 Team could be:

USC
UCLA
Oregon
Stanford

Vs

#3 B1G

Penn State
Ohio State
Michigan
Nebraska

Any matchup in there is pretty solid, and could easily be the #3 vs #3 team.

3rd Place in the B1G vs 3rd in the Pac would be a nice matchup. Both teams likely ranked in the 15-20 range. But neither would figure into the national championship equation. They wouldn't be in a BCS bowl game now, and wouldn't be a part of most playoff models. So whoever is interested in that game now, would also be interested in it if there was a playoff system.