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  • Knickerbocker
    Pro
    • Apr 2011
    • 508

    #46
    Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

    Originally posted by 2slik
    How is saying 2K making their customers walk on hot coals, bashing them? I'm applauding them for the shrewdness. Last week we hear that Legends won't be playable online, which sparks an outcry from the 2K community so 2K respond by giving the customers what they desperately want, at a price. Pure marketing genius.
    ... Noone said that there was a price. I for one trust 2k. They seem to operate in another way from other companies, that is building an adoring fan base and giving out free DLC to me just sounds like a 2K thing. Maybe I'm an idealist or maybe I'm just "in love" with 2K but we will see.
    “If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball.”-Phil Jackson

    “I never thought I’d lead the NBA in rebounding, but I got a lot of help from my team-mates – they did a lot of missing.”-Moses Malone

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    • 2slik
      Banned
      • Jun 2010
      • 268

      #47
      Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

      Originally posted by Knickerbocker
      ... Noone said that there was a price. I for one trust 2k. They seem to operate in another way from other companies, that is building an adoring fan base and giving out free DLC to me just sounds like a 2K thing. Maybe I'm an idealist or maybe I'm just "in love" with 2K but we will see.
      Awww, ain't that cute...
      Last edited by 2slik; 09-26-2011, 02:24 PM.

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      • OhioBobcats
        Rookie
        • Apr 2010
        • 316

        #48
        Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

        It all makes sense to me. Simply put, this is 2K's way of still being able to stick it to EA even when they are not making a sim game.

        "Oh, EA is only going to make a DLC NBA Jam game? We'll do a DLC too with somewhat similar features as an add on so we get the sim and the arcade money!"

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        • SdotThaDon
          Rookie
          • Sep 2007
          • 78

          #49
          Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

          Originally posted by Knickerbocker
          ... Noone said that there was a price. I for one trust 2k. They seem to operate in another way from other companies, that is building an adoring fan base and giving out free DLC to me just sounds like a 2K thing. Maybe I'm an idealist or maybe I'm just "in love" with 2K but we will see.
          Let's hope you're right. They are the only game in town now for the 2nd year, just hope they handle it right.

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          • NINJAK2
            *S *dd*ct
            • Jan 2003
            • 6177

            #50
            Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

            It wasn't cheap for 2k to get all those damn legends/retired ballers in the game. I doubt the likes of Magic, Bird, Ewing, Shaq, etc. were only willing to sign on for just a free copy of the game. 2k has to get that money back anyway they can. If you don't want to use legends online don't download or pay for it. I paid for the NBA Combine in 2k10, and the Onslaught mode in BFBC2..I don't see the big deal if they charge.
            EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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            • RedSceptile
              MVP
              • Jun 2011
              • 3680

              #51
              Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

              I honestly wouldn't be upset if 2K made you pay to use this online, they've been consistent in their quality and if they feel the need to strengthen their profit margins I don't blame them.

              As previously stated it's shrewd marketing, you release 2K11 on a market with no other NBA game and add on to your fan base from casuals who just want to ball with Jordan and whatnot. Now you've pretty much got a market that will be free of an NBA game for another fiscal year, why not take this opportunity to maximum income? Any smart person would do it, as long as they keep up a consistent level of quality I don't blame them.

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              • Giammajo
                Rookie
                • Sep 2010
                • 119

                #52
                Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

                Originally posted by 2slik
                How is saying 2K making their customers walk on hot coals, bashing them? I'm applauding them for the shrewdness. Last week we hear that Legends won't be playable online, which sparks an outcry from the 2K community so 2K respond by giving the customers what they desperately want, at a price. Pure marketing genius.
                Sure, If you only look at it from a business/profit perspective then charging for DLC like this is a home run for 2k... But applauding them for their shrewdness??

                Following the 2k12 development process has proven that 2k is anything but shrewd. NO competition, an enormous fan base, coming off of one of the greatest sports games ever made.... a shrewd company could have tinkered with the rosters and called it a day. 2k took input from the community (this community), brought in the Czar for help with branching plays / development decisions, seemingly addressed every single issue we found with 2k11, and found the time to create a whole new mode highlighting the games all time greats in great detail.

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                • Knickerbocker
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 508

                  #53
                  Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

                  Originally posted by 2slik
                  Awww, ain't that cute...
                  Hehe, well we will see who is right soon. Cynism won't get you far though mate.
                  “If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball.”-Phil Jackson

                  “I never thought I’d lead the NBA in rebounding, but I got a lot of help from my team-mates – they did a lot of missing.”-Moses Malone

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                  • eko718
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 2257

                    #54
                    Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

                    Hold on a second... "Play online with Legendary teams from NBA's Greatest"? Seems like we can use the actual classic teams from that wording. I thought it was just 2 on 2 and 3 on 3 blacktop. Niiice....

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                    • 2slik
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 268

                      #55
                      Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

                      Originally posted by Giammajo
                      Sure, If you only look at it from a business/profit perspective then charging for DLC like this is a home run for 2k... But applauding them for their shrewdness??

                      Following the 2k12 development process has proven that 2k is anything but shrewd. NO competition, an enormous fan base, coming off of one of the greatest sports games ever made.... a shrewd company could have tinkered with the rosters and called it a day.
                      And how many unshrewd customers would it take to make THAT a "shrewd" decision by 2K?

                      Originally posted by Knickerbocker
                      Hehe, well we will see who is right soon. Cynism won't get you far though mate.
                      Love hurts, love scars, love wounds and mars....ooooh oooh love hurts etc.

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                      • Knickerbocker
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 508

                        #56
                        Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

                        Originally posted by RedSceptile
                        I honestly wouldn't be upset if 2K made you pay to use this online, they've been consistent in their quality and if they feel the need to strengthen their profit margins I don't blame them.

                        As previously stated it's shrewd marketing, you release 2K11 on a market with no other NBA game and add on to your fan base from casuals who just want to ball with Jordan and whatnot. Now you've pretty much got a market that will be free of an NBA game for another fiscal year, why not take this opportunity to maximum income? Any smart person would do it, as long as they keep up a consistent level of quality I don't blame them.
                        Giving out free DLCs and pleasing the fans in such a way is marketing as well. I'm sure that if (or when) another franchise comes close to 2k the fans choose the one that treat them better. Look at the PRO evo vs FIFA thing. Pro Evo is the lesser game for a couple of years now but they still sell a lot of units just because of their more customer friendly policy.
                        “If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball.”-Phil Jackson

                        “I never thought I’d lead the NBA in rebounding, but I got a lot of help from my team-mates – they did a lot of missing.”-Moses Malone

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #57
                          Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

                          Originally posted by iLLosophy
                          How is letting leaked footage run rampant bad marketing?
                          Are you not seeing some of the comments here?

                          Originally posted by SdotThaDon
                          Never know, EA learned from Wang and maybe Wang picked up a few tricks from EA as well. Hope not though, not really into paying extra for things already on disk. To some of these companies dlc stands for download locked content.
                          I love this. And I love you guys. Please - keep the conspiracy theories coming. Great way to spend the afternoon!
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                          • 2slik
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 268

                            #58
                            Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

                            Originally posted by Knickerbocker
                            Giving out free DLCs and pleasing the fans in such a way is marketing as well. I'm sure that if (or when) another franchise comes close to 2k the fans choose the one that treat them better. Look at the PRO evo vs FIFA thing. Pro Evo is the lesser game for a couple of years now but they still sell a lot of units just because of their more customer friendly policy.
                            LOL, Konami don't give a flying **** about their customers. For the past several years, Seabass and his cronies have been laughing all the way to the bank for the fact that suckers have still been buying their digital football, which still looks cartoonish, just because of blind customer loyalty.

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                            • Knickerbocker
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 508

                              #59
                              Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

                              Originally posted by 2slik
                              LOL, Konami don't give a flying **** about their customers. For the past several years, Seabass and his cronies have been laughing all the way to the bank for the fact that suckers have still been buying their digital football, which still looks cartoonish, just because of blind customer loyalty.
                              Hehe, noone said they care about their customers. But they play it out like they do. How do you think they built such a base of blind customers? By cattering or giving the appearance to catter their needs.
                              “If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball.”-Phil Jackson

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                              • 2slik
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 268

                                #60
                                Re: NBA 2k12 Legends Showcase (online)

                                Originally posted by Knickerbocker
                                Hehe, noone said they care about their customers. But they play it out like they do. How do you think they built such a base of blind customers? By cattering or giving the appearance to catter their needs.
                                By creating footballing perfection in PES 5. Plus, even though they have an official fan site like this, they don't talk to the forum members. The Konami equivalent of Beluba isn't going to interact with the PESFan community

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