FIFA 12 Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[clipperfan811]

Re: FIFA 12 Season Ticket Early Release Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS

Just finished playing my first game. USA (me) Vs Australia 10 min halves, Pro

First impression is Wow, I love the way this game feels. I might find gripes with the game later but you know what, right now I'm just going to enjoy the heck out of this game because it's beautiful.

There's a great pace to the game that just feels so real and right. I notice a nice difference between this and the demo but it's hard to say exactly what it is. The players really do feel like they have a higher level of intelligence both while attacking and defending. I felt like I was actually playing with competent teammates. I like the new defending and you can definitely force a slower tempo by sitting back and letting the offensive players play into a crowded area. If you break from the gameplan and go ball chasing they find the hole.

The dribble animations also seemed smoother than in the demo, I'll check this more as I play but from a first impression I'm ecstatic.

My first goal was via drawing a foul in the box for a Donovan Penalty. So much for not seeing any fouls. My first actual (non-penalty) goal was a nice little sequence of passes from one side to the middle to a cutter from the wing who just barely got by his defender. *I'll post the video in the highlight thread in a sec.

Game ended 2-0 as I was able to dodge a few close calls including a goal that was called back because the player was offsides.

I'm really happy with this game so far

[Shakedowncapo]

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Most of my playing is verse the CPU.

That's why it kills me that the cpu won't change formation or tactics.

I'm still holding out slim hope that there is something I'm missing.

Aye....The one thing that made Fifa 10 go dull(after the inital wow factor) still hasn't been fixed 2 years later? Guess I'll wait till the 14th :-/

[bad_philanthropy]

Re: FIFA 12 Season Ticket Early Release Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS

Right now I actually feel like if EA were to release a patch that only included the tuning of fouls I would be perfectly satisfied.

[slthree]

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Did the cpu change formation or tactis when behind? Did they drop a defender for an attacker? Did they change shape to push forward?

I could probably live with the lack of fouls but I have to know the cpu will change formations and tactics as needed.

The game does feel good to play, for sure.

Just finished playing my first game. USA (me) Vs Australia 10 min halves, Pro

First impression is Wow, I love the way this game feels. I might find gripes with the game later but you know what, right now I'm just going to enjoy the heck out of this game because it's beautiful.

There's a great pace to the game that just feels so real and right. I notice a nice difference between this and the demo but it's hard to say exactly what it is. The players really do feel like they have a higher level of intelligence both while attacking and defending. I felt like I was actually playing with competent teammates. I like the new defending and you can definitely force a slower tempo by sitting back and letting the offensive players play into a crowded area. If you break from the gameplan and go ball chasing they find the hole.

The dribble animations also seemed smoother than in the demo, I'll check this more as I play but from a first impression I'm ecstatic.

My first goal was via drawing a foul in the box for a Donovan Penalty. So much for not seeing any fouls. My first actual (non-penalty) goal was a nice little sequence of passes from one side to the middle to a cutter from the wing who just barely got by his defender. *I'll post the video in the highlight thread in a sec.

Game ended 2-0 as I was able to dodge a few close calls including a goal that was called back because the player was offsides.

I'm really happy with this game so far

[Maxflier]

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My first goal was via drawing a foul in the box for a Donovan Penalty. So much for not seeing any fouls.

Play a few more games and see if you still feel that way.

[Krebstar]

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Play a few more games and see if you still feel that way.

That is the issue. One game I'll be fouled three times and win a penalty. The next ten games, I get fouled once at midfield.

We just hit the actual US release, so hopefully after Friday when it's released in the UK we will hear something from EA. They already acknowledged that the demo had foul issues, so at least they're not pretending to not know it's there.

[therizing02]

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Lack of cards/fouls just isnt enough of a reason for me not to buy an otherwise great game. Its just not a deal breaker for me. It really seems like more and more people pick one thing that they can focus on as a reason to skip a game and act like its a critical flaw that breaks the game. If it is truly the case that these flaws are dealbreakers, then really we wouldnt be able to play ANY of the sports titles available. All of them have something that just isnt realistic about them.

It's the same as any other game. They all have flaws and it's up to the individual user to decide what he can live with. You can obviously live with the issue. That's great get the game and enjoy, but I don't think anyone on this forum looks for a reason not to buy a game. Personally, I'm trying to find other great areas and things about the game to warrant a purchase.

I've played over 30 complete games(and about 10 others that I quit in frustration) of the early release and the CPU averages less than 2 fouls a game. Taking and defending set pieces are a HUGE part of soccer and the developers have NOT done anything about it in the last 5 editions of this game. FIFA 10 was tolerable at best. The devs actually implemented a Create a Set Piece feature a couple of years ago. My question was, what is the point if I never get to use it?

Would you play an NBA game without fouls and free throws? An NFL game without punts? It's a BIG issue. The piss poor sub patterns of the CPU that have never been addressed, the CPU NEVER changing formations are frustrating, but personally I can live those things. Again it comes down to what the individual can deal with.

For the last 5 years this game has been geared towards the casual fan and the hardcore online players who would normally not even notice the obvious glaring issues and often scripted game play.

[therizing02]

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Play a few more games and see if you still feel that way.

Do you think maybe you can elaborate a little more on how/why you seem to be the only player that is seeing fouls/cards? What level do you play on? Do you use CTT? Tell us about your playing style. What sliders are you using?

Just curious.....

[Maxflier]

Re: FIFA 12 Season Ticket Early Release Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS

Why are you asking me? I'm hardly seeing any fouls at all being called in the game.

[therizing02]

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Why are you asking me? I'm hardly seeing any fouls at all being called in the game.

My mistake man. Misread the post.....I need more caffeine!

[theaub]

Re: FIFA 12 Season Ticket Early Release Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS

Was there a patch when you downloaded it from ST? Just picked it up and there is one...wonder if that has to do with the fouls.

[clipperfan811]

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Play a few more games and see if you still feel that way.

I did and.... thanks for blowing my buzz

The foul thing is definitely a problem, I spent the better half of my second game running around trying to run into people. I managed to slide my way into a few yellow cards (2 of which added up to a red) but no outright red cards and it was tough to draw those cards.

It's a shame because for me in the demo I felt that fouls were just right.
It was definitely short sighted of ea to finally (a decade late) introduce sliders and not include a foul frequency slider. I guess it's because they have different refs with varying strictness levels but there's definitely a bug with the fouls.

I'm still going to enjoy the game though

[clipperfan811]

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Did the cpu change formation or tactis when behind? Did they drop a defender for an attacker? Did they change shape to push forward?

I could probably live with the lack of fouls but I have to know the cpu will change formations and tactics as needed.

The game does feel good to play, for sure.

I honestly didn't pay attention to their formations, they did make a few subs but I can't honestly say I know Australia's national team well enough to know whether those subs were tactically smart choices. I did notice a bit more attacking and like I said I dodged a few bullets in the second half. A few nice saves by Howard, the goal which was called back for offsides, one that went of the side post which I thought was for sure going in.

I'll write a more detail impression once I get a few more games in. And maybe I'll go into the question thread and try to answer some questions from there.

[clipperfan811]

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Playing Barac (Me) vs Real Madrid 10 min halves pro and it's a 1-1 game about 80 min in Madrid gets possession and I just heard the commentators say "it looks like a tactical switch" "they've gone into a much more attacking form, it almost looks like they have 5 players forward" *wording might have been slightly off but it's basically what they said*.

As a side note so far this game has 4 fouls so far which have all come from standing bumps; also 2 others where the advantage was played by the ref. No cards though.

[mjarz02]

Re: FIFA 12 Season Ticket Early Release Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS

I do agree with most, that fouls are an issue, however I dont think its as bad as some are reporting. You have to work to draw fouls and cards. Using L1 or L2 or flicking with the stick to draw contact works pretty well. I think this was EAs intention to make people work to draw fouls.

I hope they tweak it a tad, but I think it will just take some getting use to.